What else should I add?

Mooncat

Mooncat

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Hey guys, so I have some foot tall plants in 5 gallon pots. I'm currently using tea twice a week from a few cups of alaskan humus, worm castings, molasses, fish hydrolysate, and a little kelp powder watered well into the pots as well as a 7-7-2 blend made from seabird guano, fishbone meal, feather meal, sulfate of potash, volcanic ash, and alfalfa meal. The only other thing I'll be adding is bat guano so I'm wondering if there's something else I should be adding. What do you think?
 
Rainbow Warrior

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Mooncat said:
Hey guys, so I have some foot tall plants in 5 gallon pots. I'm currently using tea twice a week from a few cups of alaskan humus, worm castings, molasses, fish hydrolysate, and a little kelp powder watered well into the pots as well as a 7-7-2 blend made from seabird guano, fishbone meal, feather meal, sulfate of potash, volcanic ash, and alfalfa meal. The only other thing I'll be adding is bat guano so I'm wondering if there's something else I should be adding. What do you think?
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Jeez , u sure u have enough ingredients?
;-)
 
Rainbow Warrior

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Mooncat said:
Lmfao, no not really. The list is actually bigger from the vermi-compost garden blend I got from an earthworm factory but most of it is all a dry or liquid mix.
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U must be a Botanist for sure, or a Biology professor ;-).

Enough of pulling ur leg (I can’t help it-give me a smoke and the bad jokes just flow like water).

U haven’t got nettle and comfrey tea on your list. It’s pretty much the only thing I use (I’m a vegetarian so all the fish and bonemeal nutes are a no no for me.

I ferment the tea naturally, it stinks so bad you can smell it a mile off :-)

I feed my plants once a week

Currently trying to bring a plant back with nettle tea; see how that goes...

Generally though, when I have it, I don’t use anything else, apart from plant based nutes, when I have no tea...
 
FresnoFarmer

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Rainbow Warrior said:
U must be a Botanist for sure, or a Biology professor ;-).

Enough of pulling ur leg (I can’t help it-give me a smoke and the bad jokes just flow like water).

U haven’t got nettle and comfrey tea on your list. It’s pretty much the only thing I use (I’m a vegetarian so all the fish and bonemeal nutes are a no no for me.

I ferment the tea naturally, it stinks so bad you can smell it a mile off :-)

I feed my plants once a week

Currently trying to bring a plant back with nettle tea; see how that goes...

Generally though, when I have it, I don’t use anything else, apart from plant based nutes, when I have no tea...
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Where do you source the nettle and comfrey?
 
Rainbow Warrior

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Mooncat

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FresnoFarmer said:
Where do you source the nettle and comfrey?
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So you know when you go to a store and you see bulk herbs in jars? That's where, also lots of health/vitamin places or whatever have that and the like. Oh hey your from Fresno, I'd say go to this chinese herb shop in downtown by the stadium but I think they moved. I used to buy nettle for muscle pain from The Brass Unicorn in Tower District all the time. They have comfrey as well, they're on Van Ness. I used to live in downtown.
 
topcat

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Don't over-think it. KISS...Keep it simple, stupid. Not saying you, or I, am stupid, just dumb it down. Growing ain't that hard.
 
Imaginathan

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I can’t say I agree about the amount of items in your soil list, I too tend to whole ass my hobbies ;). I’m pretty sure with fish hydrolysate you are only using maybe twice a month, that’s what I’ve read if your soil is fully amended like that. Also a little bit of gypsum won’t hurt for extra calcium, don’t overdo it though as is with all those ingredients. Still very easy and possible to lock out nutrients with organic grows.

The only other thing I would suggest is getting some barley or type of cheap seeds you can sprout and dry and make malted barley powder or chop up to put in your tease, good for enzymes. Love that TLO life baby!! Good look dude
 
Imaginathan

Imaginathan

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Mooncat said:
So you know when you go to a store and you see bulk herbs in jars? That's where, also lots of health/vitamin places or whatever have that and the like. Oh hey your from Fresno, I'd say go to this chinese herb shop in downtown by the stadium but I think they moved. I used to buy nettle for muscle pain from The Brass Unicorn in Tower District all the time. They have comfrey as well, they're on Van Ness. I used to live in downtown.
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I like your idea about trying Chinese markets, small town hippie stores have them but they are priced like gold. Thanks!
 
Mooncat

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topcat said:
Don't over-think it. KISS...Keep it simple, stupid. Not saying you, or I, am stupid, just dumb it down. Growing ain't that hard.
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Ya really, I used the exact same stuff last year and I had veteran smokers tell me it's the best they've ever smoked so I won't be doing much else aside from making sure they're getting necessaries proper care/maintenance.
 
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waterproof808

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Are your plants telling you they need something? Its not the best idea to just blindly add stuff to your soil without knowing what your soil or plants are actually lacking. More is not always better.
 
Mooncat

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Imaginathan said:
I can’t say I agree about the amount of items in your soil list, I too tend to whole ass my hobbies ;). I’m pretty sure with fish hydrolysate you are only using maybe twice a month, that’s what I’ve read if your soil is fully amended like that. Also a little bit of gypsum won’t hurt for extra calcium, don’t overdo it though as is with all those ingredients. Still very easy and possible to lock out nutrients with organic grows.

The only other thing I would suggest is getting some barley or type of cheap seeds you can sprout and dry and make malted barley powder or chop up to put in your tease, good for enzymes. Love that TLO life baby!! Good look dude
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What about rye? I have some seeds.
 
Imaginathan

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Mooncat said:
What about rye? I have some seeds.
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I don’t see why not, I think enzymes are the main focus :D, esp since that’s a grain. I usually sprout a bunch, half I blend up to go in an SST and half I bake in the oven on low as possible and then blend up the malted powder to top dress with.
 
Mooncat

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waterproof808 said:
Are your plants telling you they need something? Its not the best idea to just blindly add stuff to your soil without knowing what your soil or plants are actually lacking. More is not always better.
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No actually, they look great. I've been real careful about adding fertilizer by starting with very little and then adding more a few weeks later. I'm looking at testing the soil now aside from just ph.
 
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