What is Causing This?

You gotta give us more to go on that just "whats wrong with this?" How often are you watering? What is the pH of your water? Are you using nutes? If you are, at what strength?

No nutes. Happy Frog soil. Watering once every couple days as needed. 600 watt MH.

It looks like it's overwatered, which is causing the droopiness. And the spotting on the leaves is most likely due to a pH problem. Do you know what the pH of your water is? Also, are you using tap water, or RO water? This makes a big difference...

distilled water, which I assume has a neutral PH of 7.0. I do not have a PH meter. Three other seedlings are not exhibiting this problem.

1. repot them in bigger pots and stop watering them so much

2.foxfarm dirt is loaded with nutes switch to an organic dirt its
cheaper and more stable.

just my 2cence...

rolla8 said:

It looks like it's overwatered, which is causing the droopiness. And the spotting on the leaves is most likely due to a pH problem. Do you know what the pH of your water is? Also, are you using tap water, or RO water? This makes a big difference...

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Hey Rolla hows it goin buddy, got a question if ya dont mind (and sorry to once again semi-hijack a thread but this applies here in the difference of RO water)

I've been buying water from the store since germination (will be week old tomorrow) On the jug it say Purified by reverse Osmosis and distillatiion. I'm assuming that water is good to use. But didn't get a chance to grab a PH tester yet. Is that water PH balanced?

...cut off the affected areas of the plant and start some new plants incase the ones you have now dont live also give them some superthrive!

farmer#1 said:

1. repot them in bigger pots and stop watering them so much

2.foxfarm dirt is loaded with nutes switch to an organic dirt its
cheaper and more stable.

just my 2cence...

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There's no need to repot these yet. There's no signs of them being root-bound, and those cups have plenty of unused soil in them. If he cuts back on watering them, the roots will be encouraged to spread out in search of more water.

FoxFarms "dirt" is NOT loaded with nutes. And Happy Frog is organic. Any nutrients in that soil is from earthworm castings, guano, and seaweed. There are no added nutes in this soil, and it is more than appropriate for starting seeds. And as far as it not being "stable", I don't even know what that means. FoxFarms is one of the best soil mixes you can buy, and has certainly been tried and tested by the masses.

DRCANNABIS said:

distilled water, which I assume has a neutral PH of 7.0. I do not have a PH meter. Three other seedlings are not exhibiting this problem.

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Store-bought distilled water tends to have a pH on the high-side, usually around 8.0. You must go buy a pH test kit. You can get them for like $5 at WalMart or any other store that sells pool or garden supplies. It is critical that you are able to monitor and control the pH of your water because if it is off, your plants will be unable to absorb and use the nutrients in the soil. Fluctuations also cause lockout problems. The fact that your other seedlings are not exhibiting this problem leads me to believe that they are not of the same strain, and have different thriving thresholds. You really need to get a test kit. Also, to properly water the plants you should allow the soil to become almost completely dry. Then, water them heavily so that it starts to flow from the bottom drainage holes. By doing this, you will allow more oxygen to penetrate the root zone, and encourage your roots to spread out in search of more water and colonize the entire soil mass in the process.

rolla8 said:

It looks like it's overwatered, which is causing the droopiness. And the spotting on the leaves is most likely due to a pH problem. Do you know what the pH of your water is? Also, are you using tap water, or RO water? This makes a big difference...

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this is good advice id go with this or else!

if you repot them the roots can dry... instead of rotting in over watered dirt! "stable" as in it doesnt maintain a stable ph when you add nutrients... but whatever it was just my 2cence i dont care if you dont agree! i like local organic "dirt/soil" whateva the fuck you wana call it... and i get nice chronic!

Jeffdogg said:

Hey Rolla hows it goin buddy, got a question if ya dont mind (and sorry to once again semi-hijack a thread but this applies here in the difference of RO water)

I've been buying water from the store since germination (will be week old tomorrow) On the jug it say Purified by reverse Osmosis and distillatiion. I'm assuming that water is good to use. But didn't get a chance to grab a PH tester yet. Is that water PH balanced?

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Whatsup brotha....

Like I said in the previous post, store-bought distilled water tends to have a pH that's a bit too high. For use in soil, you want your pH to be between 6.3-6.8 depending on the strain. My plants best thrive with a water pH of 6.3-6.5. Another thing to be aware of when using store-bought distilled water is that they add minerals to it to improve taste. Those added minerals increase the ppm count of the water. Usually not a big deal, but something to be aware of.

I was using store-bought water from Home Depot until about 2 weeks ago. I was spending $50+ per week on water and got tired of it. So, I bought a new Hydrologic RO filter from my hydro shop for like $200. Now, I produce my own RO water that measures 25ppm with a pH of 6.8. Given how much I was spending on water, it will have paid for itself in another 2-3 days. I highly recommend one.

yes they may be different strains as these are all bag seeds. I do wait for the top and first inch of soil is bone dry before I water, but perhaps they are being over-watered. New growth looks good on these, do you think they will still be viable over the long term? They will be repotted tomorrow in their final 2 gallon grow bag containers so the roots can dry and spread. They seem to be growing very slow, this is about three-four weeks, which leads me to believe the root system is not developing.

farmer#1 said:

if you repot them the roots can dry... instead of rotting in over watered dirt! "stable" as in it doesnt maintain a stable ph when you add nutrients... but whatever it was just my 2cence i dont care if you dont agree! i like local organic "dirt/soil" whateva the fuck you wana call it... and i get nice chronic!

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Dude, chill out... I wasn't bashing you. But what you said did not make sense and wasn't correct. It's not an opinion issue... it's a fact. But I wasn't attacking you personally. Maybe you should find some better chronic and chill the fuck out.

DRCANNABIS said:

yes they may be different strains as these are all bag seeds. I do wait for the top and first inch of soil is bone dry before I water, but perhaps they are being over-watered. New growth looks good on these, do you think they will still be viable over the long term? They will be repotted tomorrow in their final 2 gallon grow bag containers so the roots can dry and spread. They seem to be growing very slow, this is about three-four weeks, which leads me to believe the root system is not developing.

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Yeah you can salvage these. Cut back your watering to about 5 days in between. And get that test kit ASAP so you can control the pH. Also I meant to ask you before, what are your temps and humidity like?

ite my bad man, im high as fuck...

farmer#1 said:

ite my bad man, im high as fuck...

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It's all good my brotha... your plants look real nice so keep doing what you're doin! It's all about what works for you. Peace

give the plants some superthrive it helps stressed plants...

rolla8 said:

Yeah you can salvage these. Cut back your watering to about 5 days in between. And get that test kit ASAP so you can control the pH. Also I meant to ask you before, what are your temps and humidity like?

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They usually have a heater on at night, but a couple nights the heater was being used elsewhere so they got down to around 50F. Another heater will be added soon. Humidity is normal 30-40%.