What the fuck did I just buy on ebay? (polyproplyn)

trevorj

Active Member
I'm usually not this spontaneous, but it was 5 dollars...

I just bought a large sheet of polyproplyn. Now, I know what it is. It's apparently a cheaper alternative to 2mm mylar. This stuff is 1mm. What I don't know is any specifics whatsoever about it. Does anyone know if it reflects as well as mylar or even flat white paint for that matter? Does it melt under high temps? does it cause hot spots? Is it a hell-bent killing machine that won't rest until I and everyone I love is dead?

If the name sounds vaguely familiar, this stuff is not polypropylene.
 

KidCreole

Well-Known Member
um... so you bought a large sheet of plastic. .... alright. anyway, look for mylar, cheap? inside of a chip bag. emergency blanket. those metal ballons. use the sheet of school chair (you'll know what that means when you get you new purchase) to sit your plants on so you dont get your carpet dirty with soil. and spray your grow room down with a bug and egg killer. You wouldnt believe how many people on here loose their shit cuz of a bug. Spidermites in particular. Ive been bouncin around from room to room in the newb section answering questions for like 2 hours. Im stratospherically high.
 

Kode

New Member
i'm 99.9999% sure mylar is more reflective that white paint. you can see your self in mylar.
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
February there was a thread on Mylar vs White Paint:

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/299641-mylar-vs-white-paint.html

"copied and pasted from another site

Foylon
A more durable version of mylar, made of spun polyester fabric and reinforced with foil laminate. Foylon is resistant to most solutions, won't tear or fade, and can be wiped or washed clean.

A great solution for growers who are interested in long term use, and though it may be slightly more expensive than mylar, its durability will more than make up for its cost. It has the ability to reflect about 95% of the light and approximately 85% of the heat energy, so a good ventilation system should be used in conjunction with folyon.

A recommended method to attach Foylon to the walls would be using Velcro, as it makes taking it down for cleaning much easier nd reduces the risk of tearing, creasing or bending it. If this is used for your walls, making sure you get it flush with the wall with no pockets of air between it and the wall to prevent hotspots.

Mylar
A highly reflective polyester film that comes in varying thickness, the most common being 1 and 2 mm thick. The 2mm thick mylar while not quite as durable as the foylon, is fairly rugged. The 1mm thick mylar tears fairly easily, so taking it down for cleaning is quite difficult without damaging it in the process. Both types of mylar are able to reflect approximately 92-97% reflective, giving it the potential to be more reflective than foylon, but because foylon is more easily cleaned without damaging it as well as it being harder to crease, foylon usually ends up being slightly more reflective. Important to note is that mylar reflects radiant heat energy just as well as foylon (around 85%), so proper ventilation is necessary if mylar is used in your grow room. Attaching this to walls can be done in a similar fashion as foylon, and the same caution should be used to avoid creating hotspots in your room. The 1mm thick mylar stands a fair chance of being creased or ripped in the process unfortunately, even if Velcro is used to attach to the walls.

C-3 anti detection film
A specialized type of mylar that exhibits the same properties as the 2mm thick mylar, but in addition to reflecting approximately 92-97% of the light, it also is 90% infrared proof, making your grow room all but invisible to IR scanning. This can also be attached in the same manner as foylon or mylar, and the same caution should be used to avoid creating hotspots in your room.

Flat white paint
Self explanatory; a great option for large grow rooms or for people who are interested in a low maintenance wall. Flat white paint has the ability to reflect between 75-85% of the light, and does not create hotspots. Adding a fungicide is recommended when painting.

Glossy and eggshell whites not reflect light as efficiently as flat white. Semi-gloss paint for example, only has the ability to reflect between 55-60% of the light. Also important to remember when using paint is that any smears or blemishes on the surface take away from how reflective the wall is so care should be taken to avoid marking or staining the walls. Titanium white paint is very reflective; however it is usually only used on reflectors due to its high cost.

White/Black plastic (also known as panda plastic or "poly"):

"Poly" is useful if you are setting up a temporary grow room or don’t want to damage the walls. Poly is easily cleaned.

The purpose of the black side is to not allow any light to pass through the plastic, which ensures your dark cycle remains dark. The white side is 75-90% reflective. Choose a 6 "mill" thickness of poly for maximum light blockage and duribility.

If this plastic is put too close to the light, you will obviously melt it so be careful!. Panda plastic does not create hotspots. Poly can be attached to the walls by using carpenter’s nails or using tape glue or similar means. This can be used as a cheap alternative to mylar if painting your grow room is out of the question.

Polystyrene Foam Sheeting (more commonly known as Styrofoam):

This is excellent for harsh environment growrooms (your attic for example), provided you have a good ventilation system and a way to keep the temperatures from rising too high (an a/c unit or similar) as it is an excellent insulator.

It is also a great material for use in a temporary setup or for use as a "travelling reflector" on a light mover, where weight is a concern. It is approximately 75-85% light reflective so it is comparable to using a flat white paint. Foam will not create hot spots. Rigid foam can be purchased in sheets, and can be used as a free standing wall or can be taped, glued or nailed to the wall, the last generally being the most successful method."
 

Kode

New Member
wile back some guy kidnaped a little girl and was keeping her in a make shift under ground bunker in the woods very close to her house (messed up story but has a point) he evaded detection from over head heat scans by putting emergency mylar blankets on the ceiling so if unless the news or the cops lied (wouldn't put it past them) mylar will help with overhead scans too.

ps if i remember correctly girl got away safe.
 

trevorj

Active Member
polyproplyn.JPG

Here's a photo. It's not tent tarping. maybe it's related, but it certainly looks reflective. I've read on other forums about people using it, but nothing about how well it works. is there some way I can test it?
 

trevorj

Active Member
would a photography light meter work? maybe just test it and a mylar sheet next to each other and compare?
 

Burger Boss

Well-Known Member
I'm thinking you bought "mis-labled" Mylar. I looked on ebay and only found "polyproplyn" staps and webbing. It also seems to be a "carpet" material according to Google. Your pic. (dated 1/18/08?), does not look like any of the "polyproplyn" I've seen on the net.
Good luck & good grow.......BB
 

Burger Boss

Well-Known Member
BTW: Guys, put away your "light" meters & such. They only measure "Lumins". Your girls have NO interest in lumins!
Before anyone goes ballistic, and tells me I'm a complete "DumbAss", please re-educate yourselves:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/329286-fewer-plants-produce-more-than.html


The thread was started by a complete idiot with a very different agenda, but the lumin info came from very good sources.

READ this thread through to the end, it is very informative & entertaining.
Good luck & good grow.......BB
 

Burger Boss

Well-Known Member
i stand corrected... i mean omfg noobsauce! quit life ect ect ect :P
Hi Kode, if my attempt to inform came off wrong, then you have my sincere apologies. I had believed that Lumins were an important element in plant growth until about a week ago. Came across the info in that thread and got my grow ability fine tuned a little bit.
Believe me, It's not my intention to correct, only inform, the correction is up to you.
Good luck & good grow.......BB
 

trevorj

Active Member
Hey, guys.

Well, in the description it said clearly that the substance was not mylar, and that it's a similar 1mm product.
 
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