What the hell is going on???? Help plz!!!!!

Psiloeye

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100_5636.jpgCan anyone tell me whats up with my plants??? The leaves look like they are curling under and dry. I figure it might be nute burn so I flushed them. I took these plants as clones from mothers that are in late flower now. This plant is in veg about week 6 or 7. I dont pay attention to age untill in flower, I just throw them in flower when they look like they are ready. This plant is a sour cream. I have various sativa dom strains and all the plants in veg look like they have varying degrees of the same problem. Thats what makes me think its a nute prob. I used the Botanicare line for the mothers of these but use Foxfarm on these. Had no real problems with the mothers of these plants. Got the mothers from a local club thats reputible. Any help would be great....thanx in advance...
 

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neved

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Hey bro
I think u used different nut for them and your p is too high in this case
Flush asap then start with middke nuts
 

Psiloeye

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Thats what my first instinct was......flush. I used ph balanced water and flushed them all. I will take some pics of my flowering mothers and show u what I am workin with.
 

*BUDS

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No good flushing with the same water that is prob causing the PH issues. Get a ph meter and check run off, correct it to 6.5.
 

Psiloeye

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The temps in my veg room are fine, 70-75 degrees. I use 2, 4ft HO hydrofarm T5 lamps with 8 veg bulbs each and I used the same setup for the mothers and they were almost touching the lamps and were fine. I also use T5 for flower but use 4, 4ft Sunflare VHO lamps with flower bulbs and the buds are right up there about an inch and a half from the lamps so I am pretty sure that factors out the heat stress issue. As far as the water I use, I use filtered water that I get from the Culligan machine at wallmart. The machine says the water is filtered using UV and RO filtering methods and its like $2 for every 6 and a half gallons. I use the GH liquid ph test kit with the ph up and down and my plants in veg get water that is ph 6.0-7.0. I also use sunshine promix soil in the black bag. I did test the run off from a few of the plants and it was low, around 5.0 range. I looked online and couldnt find anything on adjusting soil ph short of using lime which im not comfortable with. I gave the few I tested higher ph water around 7.5 to try to adjust. Then last night I flushed all of em. I would greatly appriciate any input you guys have on ph adjusting. What should I do if my soil ph is that low. I transplanted them from smaller pots into 3 gallon pots recently but they looked like this before transplanting. Transplanting was around a week ago.I didnt get into this unprepared, I have been growing for years but this is about the third grow using actual medical strains.
 

Psiloeye

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Going to check on the plants tonight. Hope they show some recovery since most of the ones in veg are about ready for flowering. How long should I let them recover before putting them in 12/12? I had a friend tell me to trim most of the really affected areas out and let them regenerate. Wouldnt this put to much stress on already obviously stressed plants? I am tired of soil issues and am definitely switching to hydro next grow even though its gonna cost an arm and a leg to switch over and I spent a small fortune on 100 3gallon pots and those 5 bricks of Sunshine promix weren't cheap either. If I could figure out a way to make it easy to check and correct soil ph like hydro then I might consider sticking with soil but with the bug problem I have to get rid of every soil grow and the ph issues it just seems like making the plunge into hydro growing might be what I need to do. Both my mother and I are medical patients and have recently made the jump to care giving since we both have patient friends who were getting screwed by their former caregivers. A 12 pot hydro setup is one thing to buy but buying enough hydro gear to manage a 6 patient grow is another ballgame altogether. By the way I am putting the plants that are in day 65 of flower into their last 48hrs of darkness tonight and will take the pics I promised you guys and post them in the morning. The strains I have in flower are Blue Dream, Pink Floyd Kush, Sour OG, and Shining Silver Haze. The Shining Silver Haze I bought as clones has been giving me a problem all through flower. When they were in veg they grew a bunch of thin branches real close together and looked like they were gonna thicken up when put into flower.Well they are in day 65 of flower as well but only look like they are in week 4!!! All my other plants put out a real good amount of bud in excess of 2oz each with the exception of 2 plants that just put out around a half oz due to being subpar cuttings to begin with. The shining silver haze looks like its finally starting to stack the buds but the plants are in late flower, is this normal with this strain? Its like they were growing super slow for 8 weeks now and finally snapped out of it. The branches are still real thin but are putting on the weight and pretty much all need support to grow vertical. From what the compassion club told me the clones from that strain originated from DNA seeds.
 

Sunbiz1

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"I used the Botanicare line for the mothers of these but use Foxfarm on these. Had no real problems with the mothers of these plants."

This tells us your medium was the problem. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss soil grows, particularly when you already have this amount of time and $$ invested in it. I have done successful in-grounds with zero soil preparation(transplanted at a 12" ht.), in areas containing native wildflowers. They like those particular soil characteristics. I successfully use my own garden soil with zero nutes outside of molasses indoors, only problem there is bugs...lol, I keep that room off-limits. I have found that less is better, and cheaper when it comes to soil medium.
 
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