What with my plants?

Hi everyone.

Why are my plants drooping and why are bottom leaves yellowing. Here is my info:

1. Been fighting thrips.
2. Spay been oil every three days about.
3. Watered them with neem oil once. 1oz per gallon with 2.5ml of soap.
4. The rousing of the leaves started before neem oil use but is getting worse.
4. Leaves dying is usually caused by my thrips but the ones in the picture look more like under nutrition. And it's always bottom leaves.
5. They are 4 weeks old from seed.
6. I'm feeding them 300ppm. Last two feeds only. Thinking of going to 500ppm.
7. I don't let them sit in water and only watered them 3 or 4 times. They never got thirsty to the point to sagging. But I let soil go dry before watering.
8. Temperature is always between 20 and 27 degrees C.
9. Humidity is always at about 45%.

One thing at a time. First, get rid of your parasite. Then, start thinking about feeding them. They are stressed the fuck out. Give them just water and try to go for a predator bug instead of chemicals. They will die off when there is no more food, but they are just better than chemicals.

Mad_Prophessor said:

One thing at a time. First, get rid of your parasite. Then, start thinking about feeding them. They are stressed the fuck out. Give them just water and try to go for a predator bug instead of chemicals. They will die off when there is no more food, but they are just better than chemicals.

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Neem oil is not a chemical. It's a natural oil from plants that kill thrips. It will not harm beneficial bugs.

Pvnuts said:

Neem oil is not a chemical. It's a natural oil from plants that kill thrips. It will not harm beneficial bugs.

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I know, but I don't like to use it. It still puts a film on the ganja. Predator bugs don't.

I'd avoid watering in the neem oil. I've done so before, and the result was a dead plant. Roots don't do well with oil. To hazard a guess, I'd say that watering in the oil may have caused some update issues, hence the lightness of the leaves. The droopiness could be due to that or, depending on how much neem you're using on the leaves and clogging the stoma, the combined neem attack.

I guess all I'm really saying is take it easy on the neem. It's definitely got its place, but use it sparingly.

Cheers!

Jus Naturale said:

I'd avoid watering in the neem oil. I've done so before, and the result was a dead plant. Roots don't do well with oil. To hazard a guess, I'd say that watering in the oil may have caused some update issues, hence the lightness of the leaves. The droopiness could be due to that or, depending on how much neem you're using on the leaves and clogging the stoma, the combined neem attack.

I guess all I'm really saying is take it easy on the neem. It's definitely got its place, but use it sparingly.

Cheers!

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The last part of this is more of what I would advise. I just don't like anything that is not natural (I know it's natural, but it isn't naturally applied to plants). I have tried everything on everything. I find myself just going back to a predator mite or a nematode or anything that is not even close to a chemical (lavender oil with organic dish soap or something comparable included). The reality is, bugs work great at killing other bugs. Use them. Mother nature knows best how to solve problems, just ask her how to solve your problem. She will tell you, you just might not like the answer. They die off for sure, but what they do while they are there is immeasurable. For less than $30 you could get an army of Green Lacewing larvae, or another wonderful predator (like lady bugs). Don't pollute your girls with an oil just because you heard it was a good idea. Momma has a solution, just ask her.