Where are people on the political spectrum?
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Bluehillsmoker
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Politics are like religions, seems people change sides according to who's winning
cannabineer
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Radical Centrist here. cn
Bluehillsmoker
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As long as your not Atheist. The belief in nothing is meaningless...
cannabineer
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GOD HERE
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What do you mean by that? Like Thom Hartmann style or..?
GOD HERE
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Well I am an atheist... I don't believe in nothing, I just lack belief in a personal god. There's lots of interesting possibilities out there
cannabineer
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I am a centrist and like to append the "radical" tag because it amuses me. It seems oxymoronic, no?
I am intrigued by your embracing both libertarian (biased toward the individual) and socialistic (biased away from the individual) ideas. How do you reconcile what seems to me a contradiction? cn
Fungus Gnat
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I'm a ham sandwich.
echelon1k1
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1 party system with two factions... Either way it's designed so WE don't win...
Muffy
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There's no bias in liberty.
abandonconflict
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[video=youtube;wriQGI5NGOM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriQGI5NGOM[/video]
"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, “our side,” had captured a crucial word from the enemy. “Libertari*ans”, had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over." ~Murray Rothbard
Murray Rothbard has been widely cited as the "founder of American Libertarianism" and coined the term anarcho-capitalism.
GOD HERE
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I'm a libertarian in the traditional use of the word, not the american perversion of it. I believe in the freedom of the individual from the oppression of others including the government, but I believe in an economic system where the wealth is owned by those who create it (the worker) and in public ownership/planning of the economy. I just think that almost every aspect of capitalism is a negative one.
GOD HERE
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I didn't watch this until after I posted my comment, but holy shit that's close.
Canna Sylvan
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I don't hold your same opinion of centrist.
I think that, overall, the left-right paradigm boxes us in and discourages free thinking. That said, if I had to slap a "political"/ideological label on myself I'd self identify most closely as an anarchist. Radical feminism and certain sociological frameworks also shape my personal philosophy a great deal.
Doer
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I think when you buy their labels they own you.
Doer
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Atheists don't believe in nothing. They don't believe in anything. Completely different.
Dr Kynes
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then you are a trotskyite.
socialism robs the individual of liberty for the good of the state, and was never intended to be anything more than a stepping stone to stateless utopian communism.
by embracing socialism you necessarily endorse the elimination of personal liberty an individual sovereignty which is fundamental to the concept of democracy.
"democratic socialism" is simply slow-motion proletarian revolution with the final aim of a marxist utopian society. this has the advantage of being reversible all the way up to the establishment of the one party state, and the reduction of radicalized proletarian vanguard zealots hurling their bodies at the barricades, but in the end all forms of socialism rob from one group to satisfy the desires of another.
until you discover that YOU are also being robbed, being a socialist is always the popular choice, since socialists are so generous (with other people's shit) that everybody can see how much they really care.
socialists are invariably the penniless radical rabble screaming for somebody to give them free shit, or the hyper-wealthy plutocrats stalking the halls of power (like Diane Feinstein). meanwhile the masses in the middle who KNOW what hard work is, and recognize the need to actually get up and do shit remain staunchly anti-socialist. socialism offers them nothing but a booted heel from above, and grasping fingers from below rifling through their pockets.
let me guess which one you are.
BleedsGreen
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I think I don't want to be pigeoned holed into either party! I believe all of our polititions are corrupt and in it for their own gain. Not one of them are in it for the befefit of the people. I believe we need term limits for all publicly appointed offices.