Fogdog
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Listening to a podcast on the site, Five thirty eight
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One of the panel of speakers brought up an interesting and perhaps hopeful point. In the long term, the Georgia elections may have been the larger event than the horrible one triggered by Trump's violence-charged refusal to accept a loss on Nov. 3.
What he said was, by winning the election in Georgia, control of the Senate shifts to Democrats, which clears the path for Biden to form the cabinet of his own choosing, enables him to make judicial appointments that will have a chance of passing and getting business done that they want to see done. The obstruction of McConnell will drop down to his use of the filibuster, which is not insignificant. Also, the senators are not just Blue Dog Democrats but liberal Democrats. It represents a big change for Georgia and is perhaps a harbinger for the kind of shift in politics that have long been predicted to come with our country's changing demographics.
On the other hand, the sacking of our Capitol building by Trump's Radical Authoritarian supporters represents a change in norms keep following the trend toward despotism and an anti-democratic grasp at power by white ethno-nationalists who have no respect for the rule of law. A fraying of the body politic. It may mean the break-up of the Republican Party with a large number of people in congress who support the call for overturning the election based upon rhetoric alone.
So, what do others here believe which was the most significant.
Personally, I think that the Georgia wins in the Senate runoff election will have the longest effect. Assuming that this country survives the next 12 days that Trump has to do more dirty deeds. The wheels of Congress will start turning, though in fits and starts. The spectre of Trumped-up investigations by a Republian Senate will be eliminated. Democrats will be able to introduce important legislation to the floor of the Senate for debate. Biden's choices for presidential appointees will not be automatically rejected.
So very positive news came out this week. Smoke em when you have em.
Politics Podcast: What Will The Republican Party Do Now?
In this installment of the FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast, the crew reacts to Wednesday’s events in Washington, D.C., where a mob of Trump supporters stormed …
One of the panel of speakers brought up an interesting and perhaps hopeful point. In the long term, the Georgia elections may have been the larger event than the horrible one triggered by Trump's violence-charged refusal to accept a loss on Nov. 3.
What he said was, by winning the election in Georgia, control of the Senate shifts to Democrats, which clears the path for Biden to form the cabinet of his own choosing, enables him to make judicial appointments that will have a chance of passing and getting business done that they want to see done. The obstruction of McConnell will drop down to his use of the filibuster, which is not insignificant. Also, the senators are not just Blue Dog Democrats but liberal Democrats. It represents a big change for Georgia and is perhaps a harbinger for the kind of shift in politics that have long been predicted to come with our country's changing demographics.
On the other hand, the sacking of our Capitol building by Trump's Radical Authoritarian supporters represents a change in norms keep following the trend toward despotism and an anti-democratic grasp at power by white ethno-nationalists who have no respect for the rule of law. A fraying of the body politic. It may mean the break-up of the Republican Party with a large number of people in congress who support the call for overturning the election based upon rhetoric alone.
So, what do others here believe which was the most significant.
Personally, I think that the Georgia wins in the Senate runoff election will have the longest effect. Assuming that this country survives the next 12 days that Trump has to do more dirty deeds. The wheels of Congress will start turning, though in fits and starts. The spectre of Trumped-up investigations by a Republian Senate will be eliminated. Democrats will be able to introduce important legislation to the floor of the Senate for debate. Biden's choices for presidential appointees will not be automatically rejected.
So very positive news came out this week. Smoke em when you have em.
