White Label Seeds?

I just read that White Label Seeds is an offshoot seed company created by Sensi Seeds,

Because they were tired of "breeders" taking a pack of their strains, and crossing them one time and selling the seeds as the real deal strain, when in fact they are nothing but unstable F2 seeds, which is basically giving the ORIGINAL breeder and strain a bad name due to the deminished quality, potency, and taste overall of the seeds being sold. So as a response, since they figured that everyone else is doin it anyway, why not do it too? -- Sensi Seeds created White Label. All they sell are unstable F2 seeds, that were quickly bred, and put out for sale to make that ever so quick buck off of unsuspecting novice growers, such as myself.

Now, this isnt speculation, i read about this in one of Jason King's articles, but it isnt a complete fact either, as i havent grown out any of White Labels seeds, and therefore cant vouch for the quality of the final product. So if anybody is growing out White Label, please let me know -- i would really like to know how they grow, smoke, the uniformity of the plants, ect..

Thanks for reading.
-K1.

just grew whitelabel afghan kush. and it could have been better. but i did'nt make a good go of growing it. so maybe il tell you when i grow the rest of the seeds for sure how it smoked. but i will be buying one or two of their strains soon anyways regardless.

could'nt see sensiseeds.com putting out ditchweed as your saying. not with the rep they have to maintain. just my opinion. peace

Im not saying their putting out ditchweed at all, im merely saying that the offshoot company that is White label has pretty much nothing but F2 strains. An F2 seed is a seed that has been bred by the same dank plants that Sensi keeps in their arsenal, but they dont do as many crosses or grow as many crops, in order to perfect the strain, as they would do if they were releasing a strain under their flagship company's name. Its still good ass weed, Just, if you buy a Northern Lights strain from White Label, It wont reach the full potential that say a Northern Lights strain from Sensi Seeds would be able to reach under your green thumb. Still dank, n maybe even un noticeable to the untrained lung, but still not the same top top quality shit. Anyone who has bought from White Label im sure is satisfied, and even i have bought from them, n the people who have grown out their seeds will probably even say its the dank too .

Basically im sayin that its just like buyin a box of ValuBright CoComax puffs, as opposed to goin up a couple shelves for the CoCo Krispies. Some people will say theyre just as good as the brand name, and they may be ALMOST as good, but in reality, the same time and care it took to make the Krispies didnt go into making the puffs. I got this info from a couple of different books, specifically calling out White Label (but not talking bad on them, cuz lets face it, its still Sensi Seeds, lol) for what they do. And theyre actually right to do it, considering all of the knock off "breeders" out there who take Sensi's strains and breed a giant batch of them from one or two grows, crossing them sometimes with inferior plants, and then using the names that Sensi has named their strains (which are Trademarked), in order to make a quicker buck, rather than taking the proper time to cross and backcross ,and make a proper batch of at least semi-homogeneous seeds for the eager-to-purchase grower.

if you think about it every seed is f2 or worse just dont buy strains that are not stable strains think blue berry
started hey this shit smeels like blueberry ok let clone it then find a male that smells like blues and then so on and so on save your self the trouble and just make your own f1s

man this shit is confusing!

not really 1+1=2 2+1=3 everytime you bread a plant to make seeds add 1 to the f

Well I have to say reading this really sure as hell backs up my grow problems.

I bought 20 white widow (fem'd) from white label. Lots of cash! I can't remember numbers right now, I'd have to go read my grow journal - but I couldn't get some of these things to germ for shit. I really thought I was doing something wrong until I tried germing some other seeds that I got for free. Those germ'd PERFECT.

I had definteily have 2, possibly 3 phenotypes. I'm not well versed in the world of botany - but I have 2 plants that are polar opposite looking - and one that is a little different. They are all growing differently - they all look different. Same damn seeds from the same damn packages!

Needless to say, I'm not impressed. Hearing this - really confirms the fact I'll never buy the seeds again. I'll move over to either sensi seeds directly - or another seed bank all together.

Am a noob? Yep. But I'm not idiot. If anyone speeds the time to read my journal - they'll figure that out. So I'd like to say - this is a fairly good opinion of these seeds.

Well heres the thing Devine - Just remember that even though they arent stabalized, theyre still Sensi Seeds strains, just unperfected. The homogeneity of the seeds are definitely gonna be off if your growing out a whole pack of seeds (as opposed to growing a couple, picking out the best one for a mom, n just cloning a crop of identical plants). But then again, in alot of cases when you take a whole breeders pack n plant it, theres gonna be differences in all your seperate seeds. If you have plants that are different from each other, and then ONE plant that is REALLY different, i would be paying attention and a whole lotta extra care to that REALLY different plant. It could be your "holy grail" plant that you can turn into a mom and fuckin grow some really fuckin dank bud from.

The problem is, that when you dont stabilize the seeds, you can either end up with seeds that have traits from the mom, or seeds that have traits of the father plant. Then you might have 1 or 2 seeds in there that hold the characteristics of BOTH plants, which is ideally what you want in the 1st place. Those are the seeds that the breeder would choose from the batch to do another cross with, to make the traits more stable, and then do it again like another 5-10 times (maybe more), to ensure that each seed carries those same awesome traits that they found in 2 seeds out of a batch of lets say 100. The White label series Seeds are NOT shit by any means, and you can most definitely grow out some super super danky shit with their seeds. You just have to pay attention to the plants characteristics (height, speed of growth, bushiness - any traits that you in particular find desireable in a plant that you wanna grow in your crop), and then clone the shit out of her, lol. Once the plants get nice n huge, force the bottom couple branches of the plant into flowering, to find out the sex, and then start cloning the fuckin shit out of her. At least then youll know that everything you grow coming from this one mom is homogeneous and uniform, and you dont gotta worry about some plants being midgets compared to a 2 or 3 foot monster indica that shot up from outta nowhere - or in your case, lol - a 4 or 5 foot monster Sativa, lol.

good luck with your grow man, n dont think that your seeds are inferior, Sensi seeds dont put out inferior strains, just with this white label shit, theyre not stable. Still some dank though. Dont lose that somehwhere in the translation of this post.

happy growin

-K1.

I got a 25% germination rate with white seeds, white diesel. The attempt before with serious seeds was 100% and the attempt after with xxx seeds was 100% exact same condition medium etc.


this evidence is combanation with the low germination rate divine power got. I reckon white seeds are shit.

And the white label seeds are far cheaper than sensi seeds. Its a compromise you have to decide.

This is why I always check out the forums before ordering seeds. I find it more reliable to listen to grow experiences than commercial seedstore reviews. This guy also had a bad experience with White Label seeds: https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/192468-white-label-seeds.html

I was really poised to order Afghan Kush and Double Gum last week until I read these threads.