why is it???

colonuggs

colonuggs

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No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay.

While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay retirement after serving one 4 year term. It just does not make any sense.


Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States
 
canndo

canndo

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colonuggs said:
No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay.

While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay retirement after serving one 4 year term. It just does not make any sense.


Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States
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Don't think it should be an amendment, but it should certainly be a law.
 
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minnesmoker

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Each chosen profession has it's perks.

We don't have a draft, that service is voluntary. If a person CHOOSES to make the decision to serve in the armed forces, they've chosen to accept the pension plan and other perks. If a person chooses to get into politics, and gets a seat in a legislative branch, they'll get the perks that come with that job.
 
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BigNBushy

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At any given time there are probably less than 2000 people alive that have served as an elected member in congress.


At any given time there are, what 600, 700 thousand active service members? Not sure how many people there are who have done the full 20 years.

In the grand scheme of things, congress could decide they all get 10 million dollars every year for life and there would be no significant impact on our budget.
 
Antidisestablishmentarian

Antidisestablishmentarian

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minnesmoker said:
Each chosen profession has it's perks.

We don't have a draft, that service is voluntary. If a person CHOOSES to make the decision to serve in the armed forces, they've chosen to accept the pension plan and other perks. If a person chooses to get into politics, and gets a seat in a legislative branch, they'll get the perks that come with that job.
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We have a draft still but do not use it. That's why you have to fill out your selective service card at 18.
 
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Bombur

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minnesmoker said:
Each chosen profession has it's perks.

We don't have a draft, that service is voluntary. If a person CHOOSES to make the decision to serve in the armed forces, they've chosen to accept the pension plan and other perks. If a person chooses to get into politics, and gets a seat in a legislative branch, they'll get the perks that come with that job.
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The problem i see with that logic is that legislators are voting on their own retirement plans. Theres a difference between the job coming with perks, and coming with the ability to give yourself whatever perks you want.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Bombur said:
The problem i see with that logic is that legislators are voting on their own retirement plans. Theres a difference between the job coming with perks, and coming with the ability to give yourself whatever perks you want.
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That is a good point. All coercive governments decide the extent of their own power. To ensure freedom, the ability to disassociate must exist or the premise is flawed. They never talk about that part though....
 
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minnesmoker

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Bombur said:
The problem i see with that logic is that legislators are voting on their own retirement plans. Theres a difference between the job coming with perks, and coming with the ability to give yourself whatever perks you want.
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Corporate America, Consulting in America ... It's been that way for a long time. The guys that write the rules also have to write the rules that govern them. Is it fair or right? Nope. But it is what it is.

The draft. Antidisestablishmentarian, you are correct -- there's still Selective Service registration. No draft, though. I'm not sure how it would play out in court, if they tried to bring it back. I know that lots of people would whine and bitch, but that's the extent of most people's willingness to overturn a corrupt rule or system (see this thread for more examples.)
 
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