thanks for your input shorty. i glad to here you have gotten your stuff from htg also, i am interesdted in getting some product from them. is there tent nice and sturdy and well-built? i am growing in a mixture of pro-mixhp and ocean forest soil. I have not added any nutes yet they are about 5 weeks old, i am getting a new ph/tds meter this week, i also am getting some botaincare pure blend pro, and liquid karma. i have 4 white widows and two c99x white widows going at this time. im hoping to get a good mother out of all of them then use clones in the end.