Will this Ph up and down work for my soil grow?

brickedup417

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im not sure about the barand, but i use the gh powder ph up in my soil grow everyday..ph up and down all does the same thing so yes mix it up good in a buckett and water.
 
im not sure about the barand, but i use the gh powder ph up in my soil grow everyday..ph up and down all does the same thing so yes mix it up good in a buckett and water.
Word. I mean im gonna be using FFOF. gonna start in a 2 gallon pot. Doing a strain called galaxy by pryamid seeds. (afgani x northern lights) Under four 27w 5500K daylight cfls. Is there a brand of ph up and down that may be better? I am trying to keep is cost effective, but if I have to pay a lil more its no big.
 

brickedup417

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i went to 1 place and they had the gh liquid it was 9.50 then the other hydro store had the powder for like 10.50 a dollar difference
 

kanabis

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Word. I mean im gonna be using FFOF. gonna start in a 2 gallon pot. Doing a strain called galaxy by pryamid seeds. (afgani x northern lights) Under four 27w 5500K daylight cfls. Is there a brand of ph up and down that may be better? I am trying to keep is cost effective, but if I have to pay a lil more its no big.
It doesn't matter as long as you're able to obtain what you're shooting for. Make sure to monitor each time you water or feed. I always use ph water to 5.5-6.0 no matter what (soil). In most cases you only need ph down. If you really want to save money buy the extra large.
 
It doesn't matter as long as you're able to obtain what you're shooting for. Make sure to monitor each time you water or feed. I always use ph water to 5.5-6.0 no matter what (soil). In most cases you only need ph down. If you really want to save money buy the extra large.
ok see you can probably help me out. Here's where im confused. So i use the ph 600 meter from milwaukee. So i go and buy some distilled water. And when im adding my ph down or whatever(since distilled water is 7) then I thought your suppose to ph the water for the range you want. Like isnt between like 6.4-6.8 ideal for MJ?
 

kanabis

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ok see you can probably help me out. Here's where im confused. So i use the ph 600 meter from milwaukee. So i go and buy some distilled water. And when im adding my ph down or whatever(since distilled water is 7) then I thought your suppose to ph the water for the range you want. Like isnt between like 6.4-6.8 ideal for MJ?
I have seen different level of ph making people happy, results will depends on the water you use, the medium, the nuts and probably the strain. Personally I don't like distilled water which in my opinion lack the essentials the plant need, we are lucky enough to have good water here and I use filtered tap water. I keep my ph at 5.5. to 6.0 but keep in mind I'm in soil. I always monitor the ph just in case there is a variation with the water. No matter what, look at your plant, if you see leaves are kinda twisted or in a "S" shape, your have the wrong ph, leaves close on themselves and twist especially the new growth since they are still very tender. I have also been adding some drip clean from house garden to avoid salt built up and with great results.
 
I have seen different level of ph making people happy, results will depends on the water you use, the medium, the nuts and probably the strain. Personally I don't like distilled water which in my opinion lack the essentials the plant need, we are lucky enough to have good water here and I use filtered tap water. I keep my ph at 5.5. to 6.0 but keep in mind I'm in soil. I always monitor the ph just in case there is a variation with the water. No matter what, look at your plant, if you see leaves are kinda twisted or in a "S" shape, your have the wrong ph, leaves close on themselves and twist especially the new growth since they are still very tender. I have also been adding some drip clean from house garden to avoid salt built up and with great results.
ok ya im gonna be in soil to. Gonna use ffof. I am not using distilled water actually, using bottle spring water. Is that different than distilled>?
 

kanabis

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Distilled water is H2O in its pure form. This means that essentials organic or not have been removed during the single or double distillation process. According Wiki, Essentials organic are carbonates, chlorides, phosphates, silicates, sulfides, and sulfates of calcium, iron, lithium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, and other metals ... All these nutrients are vital for your plant to strive. Spring water is water that was filtered but are generally still containing the essentials, that's a way to go but it won't be cheap. If you can, get a filter and work with your tap water, it will be cheaper!
 
Distilled water is H2O in its pure form. This means that essentials organic or not have been removed during the single or double distillation process. According Wiki, Essentials organic are carbonates, chlorides, phosphates, silicates, sulfides, and sulfates of calcium, iron, lithium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, and other metals ... All these nutrients are vital for your plant to strive. Spring water is water that was filtered but are generally still containing the essentials, that's a way to go but it won't be cheap. If you can, get a filter and work with your tap water, it will be cheaper!
word. at my work I can get spring bottled water in a gallon for 80 cents so hopefully it wont cost much haha. Also, so when ph'ing my water. Do I ph the water to the level I want in the soil?

SO.. if i ph my water to 6.7 persay is that what the run off is gonna be when I water my plant?
 

kanabis

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Not necessarily, it will depend on your soil ph, how much salts and nitrates you have. The best way is to experiment by ph'ing your water before and after and see the difference. I think 6.7 is kinda risky and I would stay in the mid 5 up to 6 just in case. This way you have a nice margin for your soil but again it depends on your strain and its environment.
 

mrboots

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You can use plain white vinegar for ph down and ammonia for ph up, if you want to buy stuff at the grocery store instead of the hydro store, and save money.
 

buraka415

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@mrboots - you have to be careful about the white vinegar as it does not hold the PH level, it is short term only. Vinegar as PH adjustment is discussed here some. check out RiddleMe's response. You definitely want to use a PH based UP/DOWN product in my opinion. Especially if you are aerating your water/nutrient mix , cus you'd be aerating ideally for 90 - 120 mins - if you aren't you should see if you can add it to your project. Its all part of the overall plan & not terribly expensive to implement.

@pickle is totally right about the lime too. I believe Dolomite Lime is used for stabilizing PH. and you could use like 1 cup per cubic foot or something. Its inert, it will react quick.

the GH Down that I use, its strong, I notice it adjusts PH really well, and I'm using a 20gal rezzy. A bottle goes a long way, it would last you awhile. they are all pretty much the same if they are specific PH based adjustment products
 
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