Wilting after Nute Burn

mobone

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So i slightly nute burned them, and then I flushed them, stopped the nute burn almost in its tracks but now one of the two is super wilty in most areas. What is going on!? I thought it was over watering from the flush but now they're dry. Is it too dry now..?
Please help. I'm going to give it a dash of water because it seems dry.
 

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gio

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Agree with above, but would recommend feeding them a super-light solution of appx 250ppm. Use your RO, base nutes & 1ml/gal of LKarma, pH adjust. Don't go higher than the 250. This all depends, however... What did you flush with/how much vs volume of pots/how long ago/what is the medium (perlite & ... coir chunks...?)/what are your temps/what is the pH of your feed & flush/what is the run-off pH/etc? All of these considerations have minor influence on what is going on & what you need to do. Right now, however, a super-light feed w vitB complex & properly pH'd, & lower light levels & lower temps is a fail-safe prescription. Follow this for the next week or so & as they improve, the regiment will change. Best. BTW they are alive & still have a lot of healthy potential- they won't die, depending...
 

mobone

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Wow thanks for all the great questions. I however am not THAT detailed. I dont have a "PPM" tester or whatever but I can tell you my water is PHed correctly thanks to a bretta filter. I store the water in bottles after being filtered. I flushed with this water, about a gallon for two six inch plants. My temps are high, 85-90 but that hasn't become a problem. My medium is the miracle grow Organic Choice soil with 40% perlite.

I'm just going to go with no feed for now since they have all the food they need in their leaves. I'll raise the lights for less light.

How do I get vitB in there? As stated, my water is properly PHd.

I'd very much agree with you that they will recover. I just want to make sure they do so I figured I'd make a post to help me out.
 

gio

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Trust me, i'm not being combative here. In earnest, I am trying to help. Unless you check your pH, how can you know that your water is pH'd? The brita filter removes solids/salts/etc, but it does nothing to buffer pH, in fact, removing salts from water decreases it's pH stability. Unless you check the pH level & then balance it with solution or the like, it is not pH buffered. Brita may suggest that solution coming from their filter ranges x-y & 1-2 (based upon heavy assumption of source water & filter age/performance), but this does nothing to attest to your solution pH, especially once you mix nutes. There is absolutely no way for you to proximate the soil/medium pH as well. Regarding the tds, this is also true. Unless you have meters (very, very basic & essential of tools), you are just guessing. 85-90F is a problem, 95% of the time. It takes a very experienced grower with lots of dedicated resources to properly manage a room in that range. Not a knock on you, just a fact. The LKarma will take care of the stress relieving hormones (vitB). Still would suggest a very light nute mix as they will require food as they recover. Again, mean the best here. Good luck.
 

mobone

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I guess i shoulda mentioned I PH test my water with the PH tester for aquariums. Don't know why but the brita seems to do the trick. Temps I cannot do anything about because my room is always 80 degrees ambient and I'm in an apartment where I cannot control the temp.'

Think I should cut off the burned edges of the leaves. This could cause infection. Or will they just die and fall off in time?
 

gio

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Sorry to jump. Cool that you pH test- this is really one of the biggest reasons nute problems come about. One of my pet peaves. Sorry brother, hope you can understand was coming from a good place. Don't cut the leaves, none of them if at all possible. They likely won't get infected if you do, but a portion of the plants energy must now go to closing & repairing the wounds. Without being able to address the heat directly, would suggest the following: 1. Lower your nute levels considerably. Say you are at 750 as a target, lower it by appx 1/3. 2/3 your otherwise normal dose is now the target. The logic is that with higher temps the plants use far more water than nutrient salts. Lowering the salt levels will assist the plants in "breathing" through transpiration. 2. Raise the lights and/or go to a lower wattage. All the lumens in the world does no good if the plant can't transpire & use the nutrients given. 3. Add a lot of fans- one to move air between the light & plants, one on the plant tops, one above the light pushing away the heat. If at all possible, air cool the bulb along with housing the ballast in a separate room- even tie it in to the air cool system. 4. Incorporate some method to get a window and/or portable a/c unit in there. These will help, but the plants will always struggle against the heat. Once I go above 82F, depending upon strains, all sorts of bad things begin to happen & it takes much more in resources to address... almost a never ending spiral upwards in efforts. Best.
 

zip

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I just flushed mine. I had a mite infestation, now thats gone. I used too much nute and burned the plants. used 5 gallons per pot. Hope it survives.
 
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