And now it begins - Obamacare a very slow payer.

[Red1966]

and what the fuck does medicare have to do with the ACA LAW?

ACA was funded with money taken from Medicare

 

[ChesusRice]

ACA was funded with money taken from Medicare

Did seniors lose any benefits or services?

Yes or NO?

 

[Red1966]

I couldn't say for sure. Either present benefits will be cut, or, more likely, the date when Medicare runs out of funds and benefits end completely will be moved up a few months. But please tell us how looting Medicare will improve healthcare for seniors.

 

[see4]

Did seniors lose any benefits or services?

Yes or NO?

I couldn't say for sure. Either present benefits will be cut, or, more likely, the date when Medicare runs out of funds and benefits end completely will be moved up a few months. But please tell us how looting Medicare will improve healthcare for seniors.

That means no. You all want to throw shit on a wall and see what sticks. Unfortunately for you, facts are not on your side. So sorry.

 

[ginwilly]

That means no. You all want to throw shit on a wall and see what sticks. Unfortunately for you, facts are not on your side. So sorry.

Like they have in the past when they cut medicare there is a separate bill they call the doctor fix that makes up reimbursement. Cut in one place, increase in another, sprinkle magic fairy dust and everyone is happy.

Besides, actually paying for shit is no longer important. So medicare runs a deficit like the post office, what difference does it make?

 

[UncleBuck]

ACA was funded with money taken from Medicare

except unlike paul ryan's plan, they are not cuts to care and the ACA actually helps reduce the cost to seniors for their medicare prescriptions.

facts abhor you, and you abhor facts.

 

[UncleBuck]

Like they have in the past when they cut medicare there is a separate bill they call the doctor fix that makes up reimbursement. Cut in one place, increase in another, sprinkle magic fairy dust and everyone is happy.

Besides, actually paying for shit is no longer important. So medicare runs a deficit like the post office, what difference does it make?

keep worshiping at the altar of benghazi, as if anyone actually cares about that.

furthermore, i encourage you to keep talking about rape and birth control.

rape, birth control, and benghazi should be your main talking points in 2014 and beyond. see how that works out for ya, and don't say i didn't encourage you guys to be the biggest losers you could be.

 

[ginwilly]

keep worshiping at the altar of benghazi, as if anyone actually cares about that.

furthermore, i encourage you to keep talking about rape and birth control.

rape, birth control, and benghazi should be your main talking points in 2014 and beyond. see how that works out for ya, and don't say i didn't encourage you guys to be the biggest losers you could be.

I fully expect some obscure pub to step on his dick and the media to treat it like it's part of the platform. I also expect people like you to focus on that tard and drown out any policy discussion with catch phrases that mean nothing.

As far as Benghazi goes, that'll be primary fodder, it will be played out by the national if she overcomes it. Unless all the dems are scared of the Clinton machine, they'll hammer what she said to the killed soldier's dad in the hangar. She won't make it through the primaries if the media actually reports it. She's a vile disgusting person, to a great deal many people that still matters.

 

[heckler73]

Generation Opportunity intends to host events at college tailgate parties festivals [sic], where “brand ambassadors” (read: hot young people) will pass out beer koozies that read “opt out,” pizza and literature about the health care law. Some events may have impromptu dance parties with DJ’s, complete with games of cornhole and competitions for prizes, organizers said

I thought that was bullshit...then I checked the source.
Cornhole? I don't want to google it, someone here must know what that is...is it a game from the South?

 

[UncleBuck]

She's a vile disgusting person, to a great deal many people that still matters.

strong words.

ya know, we have a white supremacist among our ranks whose sig and posts have been suggesting that black people are not even humans for the last two days. you've been pretty active here, but i have yet to see you condemn his speech in any way, whereas you have such strong words for hillary for some as of yet unexplained reason.

remember, dude. benghazi, rape angels, and you're paying for those sluts' birth control. sell it. sell it hard. you'll totally win if you do.

and never call a white supremacist out for what he is, lest you isolate half the base. them's the rules, mafacka.

good luck in higher turnout elections from here to eternity with that attitude.

 

[see4]

I fully expect some obscure pub to step on his dick and the media to treat it like it's part of the platform. I also expect people like you to focus on that tard and drown out any policy discussion with catch phrases that mean nothing.

As far as Benghazi goes, that'll be primary fodder, it will be played out by the national if she overcomes it. Unless all the dems are scared of the Clinton machine, they'll hammer what she said to the killed soldier's dad in the hangar. She won't make it through the primaries if the media actually reports it. She's a vile disgusting person, to a great deal many people that still matters.

What's sad is you counter with feelings and maybes, no facts, nothing of substance, and you actually think you are convincing someone of something that doesn't already "think" like you. In short, you are preaching to the choir, a very small choir, a very small, bigoting, choir.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

I thought that was bullshit...then I checked the source.
Cornhole? I don't want to google it, someone here must know what that is...is it a game from the South?

 

[AussieHydro]

You Americans REALLY need to stick together and stop attacking each other, I doubt MOST of you that are members here know even half of whats really going on around you. A couple of months ago I bought some gear from 2 different hydro shops in the US, and struck up a bit of a friendship with both owners, neither of them had a clue about whats actually happening quite literally all around them every single day.

 

[Doer]

But, we have the 9th Amendment. We are allowed to pay no attention to anything at all, beyond navel lint, and even that is totally optional. When 50% of the people say they are non-political, that means 49% of Americans can't even pick the VP out of a line up, nor can they name him.

Yeah, and of the other half that say they know a bit about politics will only know the party line. Even then, a full 1/3 will register Independent. So, you know neither of these shrill parties are in control of anything. They only have the ear of 1/2 of 1/3, or only 1/6 of the Voters even listen to a particular party.

A very few of us will care to know both party lines and be willing to vote against either.

We don't stick together, we are a bickering federation of States.

 

[ChesusRice]

You Americans REALLY need to stick together and stop attacking each other, I doubt MOST of you that are members here know even half of whats really going on around you. A couple of months ago I bought some gear from 2 different hydro shops in the US, and struck up a bit of a friendship with both owners, neither of them had a clue about whats actually happening quite literally all around them every single day.

You mean like FEMA camps?

 

[AussieHydro]

You mean like FEMA camps?

E x a c t l y

 

[ChesusRice]

E x a c t l y

There are no FEMA camps

 

[beenthere]

What's sad is you counter with feelings and maybes, no facts, nothing of substance, and you actually think you are convincing someone of something that doesn't already "think" like you. In short, you are preaching to the choir, a very small choir, a very small, bigoting, choir.

My God, now you're wanting proof for predictions?
That's like UncleBuck claiming people are born with wisdom.
Personally, I think it's a shame people like you are able to vote.

 

[canndo]

ACA was funded with money taken from Medicare

that, sir, is a shit laden crock, a misrepresention hung over still from one of many rightist lies.
do your homework.

 

[Doer]

True. The biggest sign up right now is Medicare.