Legal Weed's Strange Economics in Colorado

Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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BigNBushy said:
Because you might get more interesting results with trees. Imagine a cross with a citrus tree. Eating an orange with more vitamin thc.

They have a fucking sheep that produces spider silk in it's milk. They could do some crazy shit if they wanted to.
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Why go to all that trouble. It's much easier to synthesize each chemical in a bud.
 
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BigNBushy

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Hazydat620 said:
you really are new to the game aren't you, you probably have never seen 7+ Lbs that needs to get processed in a matter of a couple of days have you. You do know you can't take your sweet ass time, weed has a very short harvest window. You have been growing for a year, probably a shitty trimmer and grower and you think you have the knowledge to put a price on trim work. Most commercial growers I would assume wouldn't be paying hourly, wouldn't make sense, they are probably gonna pay by the lb. dry that you trimmed, piece work if you didn't know what that type of work is called, which I am fine with, it keeps lowlife slugs like you out of my trade.
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You cannot compare the way it is done now to the way it will be done if it ever gets to the point where it is like any other commercial crop.

Most crops have a very short harvest window. But when billion dollar corporations make mega weed farms it will change the game and cultivation and preparation will be industrialized, with a minimal drop in quality.

There will remain niche market for the eclectic type. But you will see mega farms, and there will be large amounts of seasonal agricultural labor for it. And it will be cheap labor.

And they will gladly sell it for a fraction of what it is being sold for now.

It won't be quite as good, but if your way means $400 ounces for great weed, and this way gives us $50 ounces for pretty damn near the same quality, your way adapts or stops.

Study alcohol during prohibition. Small batch distilleries and breweries, high prices. Lift prohibition and in comes anheizer bush. There will be an anheizer bush of weed. And the small micros brew of weed will till exist. But it won't at the current prices, and without current prices, you can't pay the same for labor.

You ARE NOT much different than the prohibition bootleggers. They did not survive the end of prohibition. Neither will the way cannabis is currently being produced commercially.
 
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BigNBushy

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Dr Kynes said:
not even close.

having shucked corn "professionally", and trimmed a lot of dope i can tell you shuckin corn is easy as fuck: grab and pull, grab and pull, wipe off the extraneous corn silk, throw it on the conveyor to the washer.

trimmin dope is a much more complicated and delicate procedure. fuckups cost a lot more than a couple pinched kernels, or a little too much silk on the ear.
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When I sat down to my first bud that I had ever grown or trimmed, I looked at it with awe. How do I turn this into a bud? Wtf are all these leaves?

A few snips and it is starting to take shape.

You are of course right, trimming weed does require more dexterity, but it isn't more dexterity than the average human possesses. So no special skill or talent there.

What do you need to trim bud?

Good eye sight. Most people have this.

Hands.... Yep, a common feature on human beings.

A simple cheap tool, scissors or something similar. I paid $6 for an awesome pair.

There is no advanced cognitive function required, not rocket science here.

If you can masturbate, you can trim bud.
 
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ChesusRice

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Automation and genetics

Byproducts will be processed into other
Hash, cannabutter and oil
The rest turned into fiber.

Even the drying, curing and packaging will be automated.


The bad part will be the corporations lobbying for laws to protect their industry.
 
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BigNBushy

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ChesusRice said:
Automation and genetics

Byproducts will be processed into other
Hash, cannabutter and oil
The rest turned into fiber.

Even the drying, curing and packaging will be automated.


The bad part will be the corporations lobbying for laws to protect their industry.
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In fact, I wouldn't doubt that for even less money you could buy something equally good, but not in bud form.

Very close automated trimmed buds, dried cured and then processed into a pellet or something of the like.

It will probably be a specific shape to fit into the bowl of the company that produces it. No grinding, or tearing odd shapped buds into pieces to put in your bowl.

Just grab a pot pellet out of it's container and affix it to the brands smoking apparatus and shazam!
 
Red1966

Red1966

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BigNBushy said:
It is not a free market. It is an illegal market. The state has legalized it, our nation has not. It isn't quite black market, like say, slinging crack, but it isn't quite as free as a liquor store either. One thing growing bud taught me was the skill involved in trimming is on par with the skill involved in making a sandwich. No education required, a couple hours of training and a person can trim bud as good as needed. Experience will only improve the speed at which bud is trimmed, if a person is deliberate and thorough they can do it with very little effort or supervision. You make $20 an hour now because the legalities of the product keep prices high. In a world where marijuana is treated like corn, the appropriate wage for a person trimming buds is near minimum wage. After they have been doing it for some time and have become quite fast while maintaining a high degree of precision, you might give them $10. I don't begrudge you for making $20 an hour, but you are not doing skilled labor, nor physically demanding labor. There are agracultural and factory workers all over America doing equally skilled jobs for the wage I just described. But remember, my presupposition was that weed is treated just like corn. How much do you think corn huskers make? Because shucking corn and trimming bud takes about the same amount of skill.
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You can't get people to shuck corn all day for a oz of corn.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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ChesusRice said:
Automation and genetics will replace trimmers
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Trim pros are good for bottoms AT BEST. Run good genetics through one and your potency is reduced.

No machine to date can handle buds gently enough to not have to tumble them ; buck them down to medecinal sized nugs....noone likes paying for lumber.

Trim machines to date are horrible at spotting pm and black mold.

Bushy idk what you're takling about trying to act like trimming is something anyone can do....1lb in an 8 hour day is simply average.
Usually it is something people are ABOVE doing, cause it kind of resembles work.
 
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ChesusRice

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twostrokenut said:
Trim pros are good for bottoms AT BEST. Run good genetics through one and your potency is reduced.

No machine to date can handle buds gently enough to not have to tumble them ; buck them down to medecinal sized nugs....noone likes paying for lumber.

Trim machines to date are horrible at spotting pm and black mold.

Bushy idk what you're takling about trying to act like trimming is something anyone can do....1lb in an 8 hour day is simply average.
Usually it is something people are ABOVE doing, cause it kind of resembles work.
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No one likes to pay good money for lumber
But if you can build the same house with the free saw dust you will

NO one is going to put much work in weed that will wholesale at most for 20 bucks an ounce and still get you fucked up regardless of how much it was "tumbled"
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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BigNBushy said:
When I sat down to my first bud that I had ever grown or trimmed, I looked at it with awe. How do I turn this into a bud? Wtf are all these leaves?

A few snips and it is starting to take shape.

You are of course right, trimming weed does require more dexterity, but it isn't more dexterity than the average human possesses. So no special skill or talent there.

What do you need to trim bud?

Good eye sight. Most people have this.

Hands.... Yep, a common feature on human beings.

A simple cheap tool, scissors or something similar. I paid $6 for an awesome pair.

There is no advanced cognitive function required, not rocket science here.

If you can masturbate, you can trim bud.
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What you left out of this equation is your personal motivation to see your efforts through to completion....everyone simply does not posess similar motivation, dextarity and fiskar prices being equal with others.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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ChesusRice said:
No one likes to pay good money for lumber
But if you can build the same house with the free saw dust you will

NO one is going to put much work in weed that will wholesale at most for 20 bucks an ounce and still get you fucked up regardless of how much it was "tumbled"
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Meh I prefer home made wines too....not many top notch muscadine variety on the shelf.
 
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