ginwilly
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No idea, is illegally sold aspirin cheaper than legally sold aspirin?
Legal Weed's Strange Economics in Colorado
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Matt420Aus
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I don't understand why you would bother posting so much in a forum that relates specifically to Cannabis when you don't even grow it. Its like me going on Dr Phil and telling him how he should council people when I have no experience or qualifications in Psychology, medicine, sociology.
If you were a political major or someone who worked in politics creating policy within the Cannabis industry I might actually be more interested in reading what you wrote, you seem to have no idea about the corporate production of weed either.
Warehouse scale Cannabis production facilities and green houses already exist costing upwards of $500,000 to set up, holding around 2000+ plants in various stages of growth for a perpetual grow. Other facilities (illegal) have been set up in many countries some costing upwards of $1 million. These facilities have people who constantly are on hand to monitor temperatures, feeding schedule etc.
Huge fields of Cannabis are grown in many different countries and have been for as long as anyone can remember, these fields have up to 10-15 local workers tending the crops.
You know the common denominator - EXPERIENCE
A lot of these people are 5th or 6th generation growers outdoors and the facilities inside usually hire a very experience head grower and people with years of experience (not some $8 per hour work with no clue, like you have stated).
Your idea that big corporations will take over investing billions of dollars is not only premature to the current legalities of Cannabis regulation in most countries around the world but also highly illogical. Why would they bother putting up the expense and effort when they could just do what they do now with other major crops, which is to buy from other people who have experience within the industry at a premium rate. Franchise out locations and use independent distribution contractors to provide locations with products. All of these factors including government taxes will NEVER result in a price that would drop lower than these corporations would deem acceptable to cover costs and result in higher profit margins.
From an economical standpoint reduce prices an over abundance in supply would create lower profit margins, it is in the best interest of any corporation to consider the financial benefits of keeping the supply low as it will increase the demand for their products, thus it would make no sense to have massive fields of cannabis with 10,000+ plants owned by corporations.
You seem to have no idea about not only Cannabis but economics and business as well, maybe you should learn more about this side before making arguments based on your own personal thoughts which are obviously not very inclusive of all aspects of the Cannabis industry as it stands today and where it is going in the future.
If you were a political major or someone who worked in politics creating policy within the Cannabis industry I might actually be more interested in reading what you wrote, you seem to have no idea about the corporate production of weed either.
Warehouse scale Cannabis production facilities and green houses already exist costing upwards of $500,000 to set up, holding around 2000+ plants in various stages of growth for a perpetual grow. Other facilities (illegal) have been set up in many countries some costing upwards of $1 million. These facilities have people who constantly are on hand to monitor temperatures, feeding schedule etc.
Huge fields of Cannabis are grown in many different countries and have been for as long as anyone can remember, these fields have up to 10-15 local workers tending the crops.
You know the common denominator - EXPERIENCE
A lot of these people are 5th or 6th generation growers outdoors and the facilities inside usually hire a very experience head grower and people with years of experience (not some $8 per hour work with no clue, like you have stated).
Your idea that big corporations will take over investing billions of dollars is not only premature to the current legalities of Cannabis regulation in most countries around the world but also highly illogical. Why would they bother putting up the expense and effort when they could just do what they do now with other major crops, which is to buy from other people who have experience within the industry at a premium rate. Franchise out locations and use independent distribution contractors to provide locations with products. All of these factors including government taxes will NEVER result in a price that would drop lower than these corporations would deem acceptable to cover costs and result in higher profit margins.
From an economical standpoint reduce prices an over abundance in supply would create lower profit margins, it is in the best interest of any corporation to consider the financial benefits of keeping the supply low as it will increase the demand for their products, thus it would make no sense to have massive fields of cannabis with 10,000+ plants owned by corporations.
You seem to have no idea about not only Cannabis but economics and business as well, maybe you should learn more about this side before making arguments based on your own personal thoughts which are obviously not very inclusive of all aspects of the Cannabis industry as it stands today and where it is going in the future.
I never said that there is no expertise involved in cannabis production. After the only that trimming didn't take a lot of skill.
Wow, 100k dollar warehouse grow... Wow 2k plants....
Small potatoes.
Commercial cannabis won't be grown indoor, it will be seasonal just like all others.
There will be some experienced workers to tend the plants, crop dusting with whatever needs sprayed that day.
There is nothing different about cannabis and any other plant. They all work the same way.
Wow, 100k dollar warehouse grow... Wow 2k plants....
Small potatoes.
Commercial cannabis won't be grown indoor, it will be seasonal just like all others.
There will be some experienced workers to tend the plants, crop dusting with whatever needs sprayed that day.
There is nothing different about cannabis and any other plant. They all work the same way.
Note that I have said trimming. They will of course have to have people to know what they are doing to do the growing. Its just like with other agricultural crops today. You have the well paid people who know what they are doing, and the low paid people who follow directions.
All I stated was the trimming didn't take much skill and wouldn't pay well because it does not take long to teach.
But you're right. There will be those that are paid bettr who ensure plenty of nice buds for those low skill people to trim come harvest time.
ChesusRice
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Maybe I am more of an activist towards legalization?
Maybe the penalty in my state is a Felony conviction for one plant and loss of property if said plant is found on it?
So In order to comment in the politics forum on a website I need to grow?
Are you the forum police?
ChesusRice
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Full legalization would involve Corporate involvement
The high pay trimmers get now isnt so much because of their skill. But more towards their discrepancy and the cost of the product.
Pay a trimmer 8 bucks an hour and watch how fast your weed gets ripped off as that would be the only reason for them to even accept the job at 8 bucks an hour.
Indoor grows will wilt away to outdoor mega grows using machinery and processing will be automated. Waste wouldnt be a big deal as the byproducts can also be processed and the raw materials would be cheap.
The major problems with full legalization and corporate involvement will be the elimination of the little guy, New laws and regulations they would lobby for, and restrictions on what the Home grower can do with the product they now produce.
Need examples?
Tobacco and alchohol
The high pay trimmers get now isnt so much because of their skill. But more towards their discrepancy and the cost of the product.
Pay a trimmer 8 bucks an hour and watch how fast your weed gets ripped off as that would be the only reason for them to even accept the job at 8 bucks an hour.
Indoor grows will wilt away to outdoor mega grows using machinery and processing will be automated. Waste wouldnt be a big deal as the byproducts can also be processed and the raw materials would be cheap.
The major problems with full legalization and corporate involvement will be the elimination of the little guy, New laws and regulations they would lobby for, and restrictions on what the Home grower can do with the product they now produce.
Need examples?
Tobacco and alchohol
ginwilly
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Same sitch, that's why you'll never see a picture posted from my camera on this site. It's tempting to show off some pretty plants, or to get advice when something strange happens but it's just not worth it. Besides, i've noticed that no problem I've encountered is unique to me so I really don't have to.
twostrokenut
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Cannabanoids. Corn is just jealous!
Antidisestablishmentarian
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They both have little guys and I'd rather have a Shiner(been drinking it since it was only available in Texas) than a Budweiser. Or an American Spirit over a Marlboro. Tito's over Grey Goose.
twostrokenut
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Corporate cannabis and a trimmers union.....well that all went to hell in a handbasket.
Dr Kynes
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a rooster is still a chicken, but youll never convince one to lay an egg.
theres several subspecies of cannabis, and industrial hemp is one that produces no dope.
if you actually HAD spent time on farms you would have recognized a fiber crop being cut with a hay mower, and would not have posted that idiocy in several threads.
shit, they grow fiber hemp in canada, and shockingly enough it aint dope.
DNAprotection
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very true doc, the only difference being that if you take fiber crop cannabis from south dakota for example and grow it in a controlled environment with extremely limited fertilization (as in maybe the very tip of one branch) for many generations (7 to 10) and you will begin to get resin producing plants again...same goes in the reverse if beginning with medicinal grade and instead inducing full fertilization etc...
ChesusRice
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Would you be suprised to know that "Hemp" has THC in it and WILL get you arrested?
Other than the amount of THC (which can be altered thru breeding) What other difference is there?
It's fucking marijuana man.
Dr Kynes
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cheezie's opinion on the dope market is as irrelevant as his opinion on how dope will be grown in the fantastical future.
he doesnt know how dope is grown, nor does he know hoe it is distributed.
you may as well ask a child for advice on investing, or your grandmother's assistance in resetting your TCP/IP stack.
Dr Kynes
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really.
you are quite the expert.
i could easily demolish that retarded statement, but youll certainly respond with the DEA and USDA's LEGALISTIC definition of cannabis, which insists that there is only one type of cannabis and that is "Marijuana"
anyone taking your advice on dope is begging for disappointment.
Dr Kynes
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this is untrue.
the hash platations in india and pakistan dont sex their plants, they grow em close and tight, let them fertilize each other, and then simply use that low grade, high volume dope to make hash, but despite this treatment it's still dope.
even after generations of growing these plants the same way, for seeds, fibers and hash. thosee plants, if treated properly, can produce decent dope, but the methods they use produce what we would describe as low grade weed, despite plant varieties which produce bomb ass weed when grown for sinsemilla.
the plants they grow are pretty good and making dope, they just dont grow it the right way, so they get weed that only useful for makin hash
industrial hemp is a sativa/ruderalis variety which ALWAYS produces negligible dope, no matter how much you baby it. you cant even make hash from it.
it is bred to produce long strong fiber bundles, not big juicy flowers.
proper dope is bred to grow big juicy flowers, not fibers.
UncleBuck
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shiner was the only brewery in texas to survive prohibition, from what i hear.
ChesusRice
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I know that Males have 5 leaves
and females have 7.
I also know that Miracle grow is the best soil you can get and that is why the time release stuff is only sold at garden centers
kelly4
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Wow, I haven't heard of this before. Please give us a long winded version of this plan. When did you think of this? Why haven't you said something before?