racerboy71
bud bootlegger
umm, just a quick question, if something is illegal to sell as you propose, how on earth would it cost $10 to buy if you aren't allowed to buy it at all?
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ChesusRice
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That would be the black market price
The black market wouldnt go away. It would just be irrelevant
i've never heard of this either..and what does the garden center do?..card you for the miracle grow TR formula?
Dr Kynes
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this is a foolish assertion based on idiotic assumptions.
when markets are outlawed, outlaws will create black markets. they always have and always will.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
imvho, what is a foolish assertion is thinking that anyone would be willing to put in the time and effort, not to mention money, to grow a product, and then not be able to sell that product to anyone..
no one is ever going to go for legal to possess, illegal to sell bs cheesus keeps throwing out there..
ChesusRice
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Fastest way to legalization.
As to putting the work in. The work isnt the issue. it's the legality and the money sunk into indoor operations. Outdoor Ops are cheap as hell. And if it was legal the genetics would improve to the point you wouldnt have to do anything put plant water and harvest
kelly4
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You don't get the point.
Not everyone wants to grow it. Not everyone knows people who would give it to them.
Some would still need/want to buy it, rather than grow it. Thus, people would still get arrested for buying quarter bags.
ChesusRice
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Well then they could buy it on the black market for 10 bucks an ounce
I dont even think at that point the cops would give a shit what the law is since everyone is growing it
Dr Kynes
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cannabis is NOT corn.
even with the best strains, if you plant it in the ground and then just water it, you dont get dope.
you get a big ass bush with tons of seeds, lots of woody fibrous stems, and piss poor tiny flowers which cant get you high.
even the autoflowering varieties will suck if they are pollinated, and about 50% of the plants will produce no dope at all.
chiming in on a subject in which you have ZERO knowledge is ridiculous.
your pontifications are retarded, and heres why:
some people cant grow shit, others dont like growing shit, and still others dont have a fucking yard.
those persons will always BUY their dope, and if the dope is illegal to sell, they will pay whatever the black market dealer charges, or do without.
i sell shitloads of tomatoes every fucking year, despite the fact that they are easy to grow (far easier than dope) legal to grow, legal to sell, and theres tons of competition from supermarkets. how does this work? because some people want better shit than safeway can provide, and most people dont want to invest the time and effort to grow their own, and still more dont have a god damned fucking yard in which to do it.
if selling tomatoes became illegal tomorrow i would either stop selling them, or, if people REALLY fucking wanted it, i would sell it on the sly, at a high ass price to compensate me for the risk.
Dr Kynes
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ohh no, see thats the brilliant part of his ridiculous scheme, the buyer doesnt get busted, the DEALER does.
see if you bust all the dealers, and let buyers alone, the illegal black market will vanish like a fart in the wind. much like it has with prostitution.
yes, pussy is legal to possess, legal to produce, but illegal to sell.
and thats why hookers only charge $10 per shag.
Protip: if the pussy is being offered at $10, it aint pussy you want. same with weed.
twostrokenut
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Cheese man I totally get what you are saying and actually agree....only thing is that $10oz. can't happen with the burden of bureaucracy.
In a free market "free" meaning free from any regulation I could see the $10 sensi zip alive and well in spirit. Assuming all related costs are free market costs as well.
And if if goes down like tobacco then it will never happen in the context you describe imho....being from "tobacco road" that's a fuggin nasty game there...only a set amount of licenses are issued to growers....which keeps prices artificially high as opposed to anyone being allowed to sell *wholesale* from their backyard.
If it were legal nation wide the $10oz would only be achieved if anyone and everyone were allowed to sell from their own backyard.
In a free market "free" meaning free from any regulation I could see the $10 sensi zip alive and well in spirit. Assuming all related costs are free market costs as well.
And if if goes down like tobacco then it will never happen in the context you describe imho....being from "tobacco road" that's a fuggin nasty game there...only a set amount of licenses are issued to growers....which keeps prices artificially high as opposed to anyone being allowed to sell *wholesale* from their backyard.
If it were legal nation wide the $10oz would only be achieved if anyone and everyone were allowed to sell from their own backyard.
Dr Kynes
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so selling dope should be illegal, but the law should not be enforced...
why even have the god damned law?
if "everybody" was growing it,, YOU would be growing it, and thus would learn rather rapidly that it isnt as simple as you believe, thus you would be forced to BUY your dope.
your statements on dope cultivation, here, surrounded by people who love dope, grow dope, and know how the shit works, are amazingly stupid.
whats next? you gonna go to an oncology symposium and start pontificating on the virtues of laetrile and coffee enemas, then bust out the gay porn, shout wild ad hominems and start chanting your mantra when the oncologists tell you you are stupid?
ChesusRice
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Thats the way it is going to be with full blown Legalization
And the one pushing for the restriction laws will be the big players. As long as it is like home brewed beer I'm ok with it, But look at Arizona where you cannot grow within 25 miles of a dispensary even with a card.
What kind of bullshit is that?
ChesusRice
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When was the last time a jay walking ticket was issued?
Dr Kynes
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people get busted for jaywalking all the fucking time.
try it in front of a cop, and youll get a nice fat ticket too.
kpmarine
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger
it depends on the town for sure, but jay walking tickets are surely not unheard of..
i almost got a tix in amsterdam for riding a bicycle down a business district street being i didn't read dutch and didn't understand the signs..
twostrokenut
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Total bullshit I agree, then there's the issues of common sense things that should require ZERO legislation as well, like growing near schools, church's ect......
What I am saying is that full blow legalization is absolutley contingent on a bureaucracy, legal being a term pertaining to a law society only.
With full blown legalization I agree that's the way its going to be....the price will stay artificially high to carry the extra loads of the bureaucracy.....but the black market in this situation will not forget to take advantage as well.....offering a higher priced good of better quality, or a slightly lower price for an equal quality product.
Tobacco products are just a bad example cause we are assuming they are priced low now, which they are not.
If they were in a free market you could buy a pack for next to nothing, way lower than now.
twostrokenut
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But there it is lingering in the background ready to control you at any time. This produces scared sissified citizenry imho...citizenry willing to settle for legalities instead of lawfulness.
Dude you should have seen all the weird looks the first time I went fishing in Cali....I had 5 poles in the water all with barbed hooks.
ChesusRice
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Collars for dollars