Please help... Don't know what's wrong

Alkaline

Active Member
Hey everyone. I'm growing 3 plants under a 400watt HPS at the moment. I'm trying to bring them back from nute burn. We figured out it was nitrogen toxicity. Since then I flushed them transplanted them and went from a T5 to a 400watt HPS. Now I topped them like a week ago. They are about a foot high but some leaves are wilting. Some leaves are cupping upward and on one the lower fan leaves are turning yellow and are starting to have brown shaded discoloration. I was told to add no more mutes and just water. Also i water them and the soil stays wet for like 3-4 days and is still pretty damp after that. I think that might be causing the wilting. I will post pics soon. Let me know what u guys think. Thanks again I appreciate the help.
 

LJGR33N

Member
if your leaves are just facing upwards their stretching for light.. if their canoeing then the light is too close. as for yellowing and brown i wouldnt worry, probably due to nute burn and other stress. as for watering issue.. too much water can cause stress as well as being given too many nutes and if youve topped them this will also delay recovery time.. takes a good few days to recover from these kind of things.. let the top soil dry completely then give water little and often.. if its only a foot high you shouldnt need to water much. let them recover, get a good feed routine and start adding the nutes as directed on the bottle, even start with half dosage on the nutes and gradually increase as they grow! hope that helps.
good luck! LJG
 

Alkaline

Active Member
Sorry, My computer was all messed up. Here are some pics of the issues I'm having. Should I just keep going. Ive been thinking about just starting to flower them now before anything else happens. Let me know what u think. Tanks again.

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LJGR33N

Member
if you notice your leaves turning yellow in the vegetative stage or in the beginning parts of the flowering stage, your plant may be experiencing a nitrogen deficiency which will need to be treated. You can find many pre-mixed nutrients from the store which contain nitrogen or you could use nitrate of soda or organic fertilizer which are both good sources of nitrogen. Try supplementing your regular nutrients with a bit more nitrogen and see if the plant starts recovering. LJG
 

LJGR33N

Member
keep going by all means.. these weeds are resilient dont under estimate them ;] u wana flower around 12inches.. unless u want to grow beasts! if youve topped them.. might want to consider lollipoping them too.. get rid of all the small shit on the bottom and concentrate on the big buf up top! Happy Growing!
 

Alienwidow

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Ya, looks like nute burn. Your probably going to lose alot of leaves. When they start looking really bad snip em off. Id let them recover quite a bit so your getting lots new growth. When you see alot of new growth id flower, and lollypop the dead undergrowth. They look like theyll be fine though.
 

goodgrows

New Member
another perspective on what the problem might be is an unbalanced ph, water with ph balanced water and test your run off ph. cupping of the leaves can explain offset ph which can cause problems for absorbing nutrients.
 

Alkaline

Active Member
I got some new growth at the moments. I got a bunch of new colas coming out of each plant but they just aren't that big yet. I just want to make sure I get a decent yield. I just figured the nute burn would have gotten a little better by now. I'm into about the 2nd week after the flush and transplant. I'm def not adding anything this time no matter what it looks like. My plan is just to water for still quite a while. What is lollypopping?
 

Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
another perspective on what the problem might be is an unbalanced ph, water with ph balanced water and test your run off ph. cupping of the leaves can explain offset ph which can cause problems for absorbing nutrients.
Dont make me waste my time telling you that the soil buffers the ph so if you want to ph something just ph the tap water and then dont give a second thought to it for the rest of the grow.
To me it looks like nitrogen deficiency, try getting a high N fertiliser
ive never seen the claw from too little fertilizer.......did you spell it fertiliser???
 

Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
I got some new growth at the moments. I got a bunch of new colas coming out of each plant but they just aren't that big yet. I just want to make sure I get a decent yield. I just figured the nute burn would have gotten a little better by now. I'm into about the 2nd week after the flush and transplant. I'm def not adding anything this time no matter what it looks like. My plan is just to water for still quite a while. What is lollypopping?
lollypopping is is when you eliminate the sucker branches from the bottom 1/3 to 1/2 of your plant. Usually it makes the top bud better and bigger and eliminates the scrag on the bottom. Its usually done about two weeks into flower when you have a more clear picture as to what the plant is doing. Post a side shot of the plants and the light if you could, showing the environment theyre in, and more details, temps, nutrients, soil type, on and on and on. Basiclly any facts you have about them from age to light height. Pm me anytime.
 

Alkaline

Active Member
Hey sorry it took me this long to get back. Im using Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil. Under the light its 72.5F at the moment, 42%humidity, Id say there about 2 months old. I used a 4tube T5 fixture with 6500k bulbs from seedling till about a week ago. I have a 140cfm fan exhaust and one big fan circulating the air inside. My big mistake when i first started was that I used miracle grow right away at the seedling stage on 2 of them and those are the ones that ended up getting too much nitrogen. I looked after i talked to you the first time when u said it look like Nitrogen toxicity. The box said like 24%N and right before i talked to u for the first time. I hit them again with more nutes because it wasn't the average nuts burn i read about. I was looking just for burn tips and browning edges but then I flushed after that then transplanted then topped like 4 days later. They are def still growing I just want the quality to be there as well. Here are some pics of the room. Let me know what you think. Thanks again.

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