Advanced nutrients?????

[blacksun]

I have a well and the water comes out at around 320 ppm because of the calcium, so it goes through a softener and then an ro.
I mix a batch per the schedule from the website, it does go to 5.8/5.9 and 1800 ppm and will float up to 6.6/6.7 within a couple of days.

It takes quite a leap of faith to NOT adjust when the numbers are like that

You definitely need to keep adjusting. Hydro plants react very quickly to their environment and you'll get bad things above 6.1.



When the pH goes UP, do the ppms also go down by chance?

That's how it usually works.

Nutrients usually lower pH of water, so as the actual nutrients are "drunken" by the plant(s) in excess of the actual h2o (causing the ppms to drop) the pH goes UP.

At that point, when you top off or on the next res change, you can increase the ppms compared to the same amount of water. IE: if you use 10ml/gal of nutes, you would use 12 or 15ml/gal on the top off or res change.



pH going up + ppms going down = plant is drinking nutrients and can usually handle increased ppms

pH staying level + ppms staying level = plant has reached the point it wants

pH dropping + ppms going up = overnuted, possibly causing burns and lockouts, keep three eyes on pH and adjust. I've seen pH being too high for too long start causing this. Also, bacteria in the res and/or root rot can lower pH.




"it does go to 5.8/5.9 and 1800 ppm "

Hmm...I didn't see you mention what ppm it starts out at...If they're both raising, I would adjust the pH back down to 5.8 more often. It sounds like you're getting a buildup of the nutrients which are not being taken up by the plant(s) from the pH being off (which would increase ppms)...

 

[flamethrower1]

What I am saying is, if I mix up a fresh res using the feeding schedule from the website, it takes the PH to 5.8/5.9 at 1800 ppms.
I have been running it at 1100 ppms but at that ratio it only adjusts it to 6.2.
No matter what it creeps up to 6.6 after a couple of days.
Everyone I have talked to or anything I have read says not to adjust it, that is where I get nervous.
The plants seem to be doing well, the ppms stay pretty stable throuh out the week

 

[BUdbuddysmile]

Flamethower, as I was saying before, this is my same experience. I strongly advise not to pH it. I have done a run trying to pH it and 3 runs just letting the pH go. The nutrients are chelated and your plant is able to uptake the nutrients at a larger pH range. Im sure someone is going to respond with science to disprove, but its the truth. Are you running it at full strength? Are you getting burn? I havnt been confident enough to run it full strength like they recommend. I don't think its even beneficial. Everything is nice and healthy around 3/4.

 

[flamethrower1]

I ran it at the full strength for a few days (1800 ppm) until I saw a post that someone else was having burn issues at that rate.
I am running it at 1000-1100 now and all seems to be well, still scary to see the ph at 6.5-6.7 though.

 

[blacksun]

Everyone I have talked to or anything I have read says not to adjust it, that is where I get nervous.

I personally disagree.


And I've never seen a hydro pH chart that shows the nutrients that are able to be taken up at specific pH levels say you can go above 6.1 in hydro.

Never.

But hey, maybe you guys are on to something.

"Fixing" the wheel and all that lol.



Nah, I bet after just a few days above 6.1 you guys have lots of twisted leaves.

 

[BUdbuddysmile]

No, no twisting leaves. No pH issues. I won't argue about it, I will just say that myself and fellow gardeners that are using pH Perfect have come to trust it. The up take chart gets thrown out the window. It has to do with how available the nutrients are made in the formula through chelation. I don't know to much beyond chelation, but I can tell you that I have healthy plants. No early yellowing, twisting, striping, any pH issues what so ever. You can also run Supernatural's line the same way. Your not suppose to pH it ever if you run the whole line. and same with Cutting Edge.

 

[BUdbuddysmile]

To calrify, I agree on not running it full strength because I got some minor tip burn running 3/4 out of the gate. But, I won't touch the pH. I just keep a tight res. Changed every 7 days on the dot

 

[flamethrower1]

I have not had any problems with my plants either, I am growing the same strain as the last run and if anything, I would have to say that they seem to be doing better with the PH
Perfect line.

It takes a real leap of faith to do this though as it goes against everything I have done in the past.

 

[NOR.C4L.DUB]

I started using Advanced nutes a few weeks ago. The plants are in a soiless medium in 5 gallon smart pots. So far I am a very happy customer. I started of with Connioseur A & B. Then in the first 2 weeks of flower I used Connioseur A & B, Bud Ignitor, VooDoo Juice, and Big Bud. I know I am getting a late start on it (Day 14) but I am now adding Bud Factor X, Rhino Skin, Bud Candy, Sensi Cal Mg, and Nirvana. Later on I will add B-52, Overdrive, and Final Phase. I should mention that I use Hygrozyme. I highly recommend Hygrozyme by the way.

 

[ladibudz]

I use the same AN. plus overdrive. I miss my sour diesel.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

the dreaded...

 

[crazyhazey]

the dreaded...


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damn there are way too many AN threads on here. well it does show one thing, whoevers in charge of their advertising really knows how to trick potheads.

 

[bootyforusall]

i use the entire lineup in advanced nutrients, a bit over 500 dollars well spent
my colas are the size of double fists and the branch colas are a single fist

 

[TonightYou]

i use the entire lineup in advanced nutrients, a bit over 500 dollars well spent
my colas are the size of double fists and the branch colas are a single fist

A fool and his money, how easily they part ways.

 

[a mongo frog]

i use the entire lineup in advanced nutrients, a bit over 500 dollars well spent
my colas are the size of double fists and the branch colas are a single fist

i hope that doesn't mean its 500 bucks per run. plus i think your going a little over board with fists and shit. there grows on this site with football size tops. I'm betting house and garden aqua flakes is a better nutrient. actually i know it is. the only reason i said that was because your blowing your own horn. its kind of tacky. love u friend.

 

[thump easy]

aqua flakes is realy good... the new line advanced im not liking it.. dont be fooled by what they promise alot of the stuff just is no good and alot of it is.. depends i guess!!!!

 

[bunnyface]

I know this is a few pages off, but thought it should be said.

Sad to say it is true and I have ran this product Jungle Juice with cuts I have ran for over a year and immediately I noticed structural changes in the plants that were not normal , excessive stretch and lower yields to match ...

I am a Hydroponics Tech and unfortunately I have to sell this shit to the public with a smile but when not working I tell it as it is .. Your Jungle Juice is junk and if you want a low price for the bang and want results I highly recommend Cutting Edge 3 part , it kicks ass over all of Big Mikes Bullshit

But by all means please continue to endorse as you like , luckly we get to choose our nutrients , or else I wouldnt even bother .......

then surely you are as bad as big mike and all of AN. Selling shit to people who dont need it. So you really cant complain as you are just as bad.
Im sure you would like us to think you HAVE to sell this shit. No you dont. Tell your boss its shit, and you dont like selling it.(or try being honest with a customer),(o wait, you like to lie to your customers...)
I would hate to have you as my local hydro dealer. Selling useless shit to anybody and everybody.

Take it easy.

 

[amnesiaphycosis]

Best thing to do is go on eBay and purchase the 2oz or 4oz bottles of Advanced Nutrients, you can mix and match a bundle of 4 nutrients for $34 bucks, theyve got all Advanced Nutrients in small bottles except for the Jungle Juice. You do wanna get some Jungle Juice though.

Heard from a bird that for veg he uses Jungle Juice, Big Bud, Bud Candy, B-52, and Bud Factor X. For flower he uses Bud Ignitor, Big Bud, Nirvana, and Overdrive. His plants look like their on steroids.......

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Thats 1 plant in each pic, this plant also had 3 clones snipped before flowering

Lol that just looks standard to me he ent even topped it
standard for crimbo tree style u would cream in ur pants if u seen mine and i use advanced floriculture roots ultra phat dont use ooze use massive green planet .. Then final by AF ..and using plagron as a base terra range i have on product i allways use from an and its the b52 apart from that there shit in comparison to what i use tried n.tested mate made the an mistake when first started yeh they were ok in size but even after a big flush could still taste the shit yeh dont believe the hype the yellow bottles are defo better than an hands down for taste and size the final by floriculture is the best bottle of shit u could ever buy its litrally like steds crazy castles or what ever you want to call them calaxys swell so much give um a go peace

 

[Big_Frosty805]

I'm running sensi grow ph perfect right now along with some b52 and some F-1 for my veg and my critical kush plants are doing great at 1 month and a week from sprouting. Along with 4 girl scout cookies clones that were moving really slow but have finally took off after starting their feedings. Gonna flip to 12/12 this Sunday and I'm gonna run the sensi bloom along with some bud ignitor, big bud, overdrive and some kushie kush that's the seedlings 5 or 6 days after they sprouted along with the 4 GSC clones I used a 1/4 strength feed when I watered them this is them right now at 5 weeks. I took this pic as I was writing this thread and I can't complain. Just fed a couple hours ago at 3/4 strength

 

[Jbone77]

I'm running sensi grow ph perfect right now along with some b52 and some F-1 for my veg and my critical kush plants are doing great at 1 month and a week from sprouting. Along with 4 girl scout cookies clones that were moving really slow but have finally took off after starting their feedings. Gonna flip to 12/12 this Sunday and I'm gonna run the sensi bloom along with some bud ignitor, big bud, overdrive and some kushie kushView attachment 3146684 that's the seedlings 5 or 6 days after they sprouted along with the 4 GSC clones I used a 1/4 strength feed when I watered themView attachment 3146694 this is them right now at 5 weeks. I took this pic as I was writing this thread and I can't complain. Just fed a couple hours ago at 3/4 strength

you can take a look at my shit, just sensigrow, no need for the extra bullshit, sensi grow is some good shit, dont fuck it up . Mine at week 5