"pre 98" ??

smellzlikeskunkyum

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i will correct myself and add this bit tho...

in the High Times article(which is in multiple issues due to them re-using articles in the "best of High Times" issues. shame on HT for that too btw.) Bubba says he has heard rumors that the Original REAL bubba, that he said they threw out, still exists somewhere in Cali in some form or fashion. he makes a comment about how he would love to be reunited with it.

my opinion... there isnt one out there. there probably is something extremely similar tho. the La Confidential im growing atm is a LOT like bubba kush. so im sure the LA Affie is probably more like the original bubba, as the LA Con would perhaps be a bit more like the bubba kush, having a bit less extreme indica growth and structure.

id love to get my hands on some type of bubba/affie hybrid, and breed it into a nice strain like Alien Dog, Grape Ape, or a Haze hybrid such as SSH, SLH, or even ghost train haze #1. im sure some nice hybrids of bubba and affie will come along in the near future or already are in the works/already exist! :D

hope i was able to help! it may help to look up the high times article. some of the youtube vids i watched on it were a bit wishy washy, even one coming from this "bubba" guy himself even. he was obviously high in the video and is more or less just mad at people getting the lineage wrong. he ends up screwing up the story himself even, so its easy to get confused. i believe ive finally got it figured out tho, as long as this bubba guy, and B real getting those seeds isnt a bunch of BS.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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btw ive had katsu from a local compassion club... not any more bubba than any others ive had. just similar to bubba to me... i think there is just REAL bubba, and not, and hybrids of both/either. the term pre 98 shouldnt dictate what it really is.


now whats this pre 92 story coming from?? sry if i missed something...
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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katsu i tried was from Flint MI area too btw... i have had better bubba kush's imo from the same area. its where my bagseed one came from... kearsley park area in flint was where bag came from. other clone was from detroit area. but they were very similar. the two bubbas. so what exactly IS katsu then... and what the heck is pre 92??

i was told katsu was a hybrid once, that could have been bad info tho... so help me out here.
 

TonightYou

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Got it from GCCC?
In wary of most cuts people claim. I do know a grower who goes out on safaris to collect clones. He generally seems to get legit Shit. So much nonsense in Michigan
 

since1991

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katsu i tried was from Flint MI area too btw... i have had better bubba kush's imo from the same area. its where my bagseed one came from... kearsley park area in flint was where bag came from. other clone was from detroit area. but they were very similar. the two bubbas. so what exactly IS katsu then... and what the heck is pre 92??

i was told katsu was a hybrid once, that could have been bad info tho... so help me out here.
There is bubba types all over Flint. And from what I understand and according to DNA testing from Phylos Bioscience Labs..L.a.Affie..Master Kush..Hindu Kush and quite a few others are not only closely related..but come from the same exact plant. Same batch of seeds that came from the same mother long ago. Iam running a gifted cut of DNA's Cataract Kush which is VERY La Affie/La Confidential. And I have ran all the others before and I swear they are damn near the same. Extremely Afghan/Hindu Kush. Very Indica. Short..stocky with thick no stake branches..dark green leathery wide leaves..little stretch. Very slow in veg but quick to flower. Super dense rock kushy hashy earthy dank coffee buds. Lay you down stone. They are all the same to me. I like it. My patients LOVE it. Its safe to say you can group all these Los Angeles clone only Affie plants together and call them what they are...an indica hashplant. Us growers and breeders have been making the same mistakes with goofy names for decades now. What we think is a specific individual "strain" is actually (and dna tests back this up) a sub group of plants that fit a typical phenotype expression closely together. The cannabis gene pool in America is much smaller than we thought. And world wide in general to be honest.
 
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since1991

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katsu i tried was from Flint MI area too btw... i have had better bubba kush's imo from the same area. its where my bagseed one came from... kearsley park area in flint was where bag came from. other clone was from detroit area. but they were very similar. the two bubbas. so what exactly IS katsu then... and what the heck is pre 92??

i was told katsu was a hybrid once, that could have been bad info tho... so help me out here.
If it came from Kearsley park around when you posted this..good chance it came from me or one of my grow bros. The eastside of Flint had and still has about 20 good growers that all know of each other and we trade shit all the time. Kind of our grow club. And quite a successful one. Our Sunday morning coffee kitchen talks are epic. Our weekly "meetings" so to speak. And its always a kushy bubba type that gets passed around. They say these are nightime smokes but we like these blasters in the morning with a cup of joe. Anyways I have since moved closer to Clio but iam over there often. My mother plant spot (actually a couple of us keep mother stock here) is in that area. Kinda rough crime wise but we got security on lock down.
 
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sdd420

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Wasn't 98 when the Dutch cracked down on cannabis and many lost genetics? And those some good genetics like white widow and bubba and ssh etc.
 

Sour Wreck

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do a search on cali connection, there are a ton of better breeders out there.
well that is two completely different opinions in this thread about TCC pre 98 bubba... i guess i will find out...

2. (2012) The Cali Connection - pre98 bubba kush. one of the slowest growing strains ever in veg... took forever, and ever, to get a decent size in order to yield just an ounce. very little stretch/growth in flower as well, its hard to get this one to yield good without a long veg. it DID stretch just a tad bit tho... it would be noticeable next to an LA Affie or something else with no stretch, but hard to tell otherwise if u have little exp with it. the final product was VERY good, very nice high. the taste was "kushy", a bit sweet, and earthy/coffee/dark chocolate. i would say this is real bubba kush imo.
 

since1991

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well that is two completely different opinions in this thread about TCC pre 98 bubba... i guess i will find out...
You will get that with Cali Connection. Big dice roll. Back in 2009 - 2010...everyone was on Swerves nuts. After that he couldnt give his wares away. Go for it. You got no choice now. Your commited. Hope it turns out for ya. Good luck.
 

since1991

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Ive seen the forums build up then take down many a breeder. Starting way back in overgrow.com days. The smart breeder seedmaker companys would do well to stay away or post sporadically. Swerve had alot to do with his forum business undoing in all fairness.
 

Sour Wreck

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You will get that with Cali Connection. Big dice roll. Back in 2009 - 2010...everyone was on Swerves nuts. After that he couldnt give his wares away. Go for it. You got no choice now. Your commited. Hope it turns out for ya. Good luck.
thanks, yea, i am committed, so maybe it will work out. probably gonna be 4-6 months before i could get around to them
 

littlegiant

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What breeder would someone recommend that has the Bubba with that coffee, dark chocolate, stoney buzz out there? Had it before, but cant remember. Like to hear from someone that has grown Jabba's Stash. Thanks.:peace:
 

full of purple

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As much weed as this community has smoked in the years prior to 98 is a blurrrrrrr...and for anyone who thinks that a (pre 98 cut) is even still available is crazy.. Unless it comes from the source you don't actually know what you have.. Breeders and back yard growers called breeders are mixing pollen with what ever they can get there hands on especially before 98.. This is just my opinion on the so called pre 98 cut.. So as stated above 98 was a blurrrrrrr and opinions are like assholes everyone has one and 99% stink.. Lol..
I can tell you forsure
There's still Pre 98 Bubba clones in the Bay Area
Same with Cindy 99
Want another rare clone only from. Ack in the day
Pink lemonade
 

since1991

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I can tell you forsure
There's still Pre 98 Bubba clones in the Bay Area
Same with Cindy 99
Want another rare clone only from. Ack in the day
Pink lemonade
How do you know for sure that clones called Bubba (from a so called original plant thats still going strong since before 1998 is truly legit? I agree with bass. Its bowshit. "Pre 98" is just a buzzword thrown around. Bubba Kush is a hashplant. Albeit a very good one. The same as L.A. Affie..Confidential..Cataract..Master Kush..and many others. All squat thick branched slow vegging quick flowering dark green afghan type hashplants. Nothing more. Nothing less. Ive ran them. And they are damn near identical to me..very slight variations. Whatever DNA Seeds used for thier hashplant cultivars...is some consistent parentage. And L.A Affie is a clone only still floating around much like Bubba. And I've read that some laboratory testing said not only are these clone onlys that float around Cali.(L.a. Affie...Bubba Kush..Master Kush and some other goofy named hashplants) similar...acording to tests...THEY ARE THE SAME PLANT!!! With seed versions from companys like DNA/Reserva not far behind. Again..ive ran them. Got a gifted Cataract Kush now. Its so damn similar to Bubba its silly. I have long sinced grouped these all together (for myself) as southern California hasplant type/culitvar. Its good. Real good. My patients love that earthy kushy taste. Its great for what ails them. And the knockout high is just what some people need. The cultivar needs no staking for me. As the branches grow so thick and compact....no bud flop. I still use a tomato cage sometimes. Stays short. Very quick to flower. They only drawback is a SLOW veg. You should have a seperate veg room and top and veg her slow ass close to finish height because there is no stretch...or very little stretch. Perfect for limited height small grow rooms. These cultivars werent and arent exclusive. I remember friends and relatives growing these Afghan Hashplants in the 1980's. They grow great outdoors in Michigan and even better indoors under artificial light. But anyways...Be patient with her in a seperate and controlled veg room. Something like simple t5's or cmh fixtures. Make sure to top her a few times..and let them tops get nice and big. Like I said...its going to take awhile. A multi topped bush. And she will give up some colas in a 12-12 room. Quick in flower. Just the opposite of how slow she vegges. You can pull in 7 weeks (ive seen it with cmh and led rooms) to 9 weeks. I also dont like foliar spraying kelp cytokinins or humic acid on this cultivar. Shes squat and bushy without any help from kelp. Definitely not the wirey lanky fast vegging OG stuff nor the fast sativa gear.
 
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full of purple

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How do I know?
My best growing friend has ran the same house with the same few strains since the 90s
All his strains are old school
I've snuck in new genetics and he tossed them
Prefers his originals
 

full of purple

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He is so old school he doesn't run carbon filters.
Has about 16000w total just in lights
Not including pumps,fans,etc
In summer time with his backyards full of 5 gallon buckets and his house full I can smell his house a mile away
 
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