Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Nizza said:
thats absolutely not what he's saying man re-read it.
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Why are you speaking on his behalf? I asked him point blank ...


  • "Yes or no ....... If I have two identical clones from the same mother plant, I will get two to three times more trichome coverage on plant "b" that was given 48 hours of darkness prior to chop?"​




 
hyroot

hyroot

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I'm done arguing over this. You just don't seem to get it. You should of had a v8 this morning

Try it ands you will see. The whole world swears by it.. We all know light destroys trichomes. They replenish sort of speak when they sleep soo.... Plus what I said before when the plant know its dying it pushes out more... Trying make its lineage live on..... More trichomes does not equal more potency.. My old hindu skunk had more trichomes and made more hash than any strain I've done. It's potency was far lower than my other strains... If you yield more that doesn't improve thc. Only lighting can do that. When you use sst or molasses , the next day you see an abundance of more trichomes. Yet potency doesn't increase.

I usually get 20% to 25% return on my hash when doing that. If I don't its usually a 10% -15% return.

You have to make sure the soil has enough moisture for those 2 days or the plant will start dying..

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Nizza

Nizza

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i wasn't really arguing lol I mean I'm just here to help, It's good to talk about it all and lay things on the table

i enjoy a discussion and never mean any disrespect to anyone, its good to expose things and get a full understanding of whats really going on and I think as long as there's no disrespect, there's no harm in just talking about stuff, right?
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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wow so many posts the yellow spots ehre and their on the tips mean they have to many nutes the nutes go up and cant be used so the plant pushes them out to the leaves i would lower your nutes by 10% and then its perfect for that size but in 10 days you will have to add that back in. they way listen to your plants you are new i understand take a male plant that you are gonna toss and isolate him then add just a bit more nutes. watch what happens. i learned outdoors and did almsot as much theri as indoors but now have neighbors so have to move indoors. talk to your plants and watch grow the same strains for a few grows so you know them. take notes. then try a new strain and learn it they are all similar but have diff traits. they are ladies so yes every lady is a bit diff. you are doing excellent so far, now to get dense thick buds. again very nice so far bro. puff puff pass.
 
Nizza

Nizza

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i was about to cut clones with a fresh razor blade http://www.amazon.com/LENOX-20350-GOLD5C-Titanium-Utility-Knife/dp/B0009ENCUW

but then got worried maybe there's some sort of oil sprayed on it that may inhibit growth' ( pretty sure manufacturer coats with oil to prevent rusting during shelf life)
my scissors are all caked up, i have a scissors sharpener
maybe use iso to clean the razor? or will cleaning it with soap and then using a liter maybe be better?

i'll go touch my bulb for you!




oh yeah N is pretty far from P on the keyboard, are you on beer??
 
Illegal Wonder

Illegal Wonder

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DCobeen said:
wow so many posts the yellow spots ehre and their on the tips mean they have to many nutes the nutes go up and cant be used so the plant pushes them out to the leaves i would lower your nutes by 10% and then its perfect for that size but in 10 days you will have to add that back in. they way listen to your plants you are new i understand take a male plant that you are gonna toss and isolate him then add just a bit more nutes. watch what happens. i learned outdoors and did almsot as much theri as indoors but now have neighbors so have to move indoors. talk to your plants and watch grow the same strains for a few grows so you know them. take notes. then try a new strain and learn it they are all similar but have diff traits. they are ladies so yes every lady is a bit diff. you are doing excellent so far, now to get dense thick buds. again very nice so far bro. puff puff pass.
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Where did this come from and what is it towards??
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Nizza said:
i was about to cut clones with a fresh razor blade http://www.amazon.com/LENOX-20350-GOLD5C-Titanium-Utility-Knife/dp/B0009ENCUW

but then got worried maybe there's some sort of oil sprayed on it that may inhibit growth' ( pretty sure manufacturer coats with oil to prevent rusting during shelf life)
my scissors are all caked up, i have a scissors sharpener
maybe use iso to clean the razor? or will cleaning it with soap and then using a liter maybe be better?

i'll go touch my bulb for you!




oh yeah N is pretty far from P on the keyboard, are you on beer??
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1) i always wipe new blades with clean dry cloth for oil, then clean again with rubbing alcohol. I can't stress sterility enough while cloning.

2) I'm running low on aloe too. Just ordered 4oz of 200x aloe powder here from ingredients to die for. Not cheap, but should last me awhile. My aloe loves a fluffy rice hull mix with kelp and SSTs.

3) Those are bulbs?

4) Auto correct is off and you were on my mind.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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DCobeen said:
wow so many posts the yellow spots ehre and their on the tips mean they have to many nutes the nutes go up and cant be used so the plant pushes them out to the leaves i would lower your nutes by 10% and then its perfect for that size but in 10 days you will have to add that back in. they way listen to your plants you are new i understand take a male plant that you are gonna toss and isolate him then add just a bit more nutes. watch what happens. i learned outdoors and did almsot as much theri as indoors but now have neighbors so have to move indoors. talk to your plants and watch grow the same strains for a few grows so you know them. take notes. then try a new strain and learn it they are all similar but have diff traits. they are ladies so yes every lady is a bit diff. you are doing excellent so far, now to get dense thick buds. again very nice so far bro. puff puff pass.
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Errrrr, what? That was really random lol. I really can't see where this is aimed at either...
 
Nizza

Nizza

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RedCarpetMatches said:
1) i always wipe new blades with clean dry cloth for oil, then clean again with rubbing alcohol. I can't stress sterility enough while cloning.

2) I'm running low on aloe too. Just ordered 4oz of 200x aloe powder here from ingredients to die for. Not cheap, but should last me awhile. My aloe loves a fluffy rice hull mix with kelp and SSTs.

3) Those are bulbs?

4) Auto correct is off and you were on my mind.
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yeah that's a bulb in a cannabis forum, lol.
it's an amaryllis, it's a few weeks older now than in that pic and the flower started to open today

i want to start some aloe out this summer, is it anything like growing a bulb?
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Nizza said:
yeah that's a bulb in a cannabis forum, lol.
it's an amaryllis, it's a few weeks older now than in that pic and the flower started to open today

i want to start some aloe out this summer, is it anything like growing a bulb?
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My aloe likes to be ignored lol.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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FWIW, all that sparked the debate was the phrase "2-3X" resin production
(or some such, I will not look back).

I understood the push-back because, on the face of it, this looks like an
incredible statement.

I thought that the article was very interesting. "Hash Tips"...lol...wow!

So, I am keeping an open mind, tend to believe that something good is
happening, and will think about trying this when I can figure out where
to house plants in the dark. (my tent is now perpetual)

Thank you all for taking the time.

JD
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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hyroot said:
I'm done arguing over this. You just don't seem to get it. You should of had a v8 this morning

Try it ands you will see. The whole world swears by it.. We all know light destroys trichomes. They replenish sort of speak when they sleep soo.... Plus what I said before when the plant know its dying it pushes out more... Trying make its lineage live on..... More trichomes does not equal more potency.. My old hindu skunk had more trichomes and made more hash than any strain I've done. It's potency was far lower than my other strains... If you yield more that doesn't improve thc. Only lighting can do that. When you use sst or molasses , the next day you see an abundance of more trichomes. Yet potency doesn't increase.

I usually get 20% to 25% return on my hash when doing that. If I don't its usually a 10% -15% return.

You have to make sure the soil has enough moisture for those 2 days or the plant will start dying..

l
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Hyroot, I wasn't arguing. I was questioning your claim, and asking you to clarify your position. You have a habit of being very matter-of-fact on things that aren't fact (small bubbles kill microbes in an ACT, defoliating=shitty yield, light sources, etc). I would have never called this in to question if you would have said "I notice an improvement in trichome production after a 48 hour dark period". That would be a reasonable thing to believe, and perhaps look in to. But to proclaim that you end up with 3x the amount of trichomes on your plant than you otherwise would by simply giving them 48 hours of darkness seems like hyperbole to me. Would you just take my word on it if I said that your pecker will grow a foot if you drink a chocolate milkshake while standing on your head, or would you call bullshit?

I think you and Nizza are the ones not understanding how THC %'s are calculated in a sample. More trichomes on a sample will indeed raise the level of THC. How else do you explain concentrates? The only difference between a concentrate like hash and the flower it was extracted from is that there are MORE TRICHOMES and less plant matter. If you take a one gram bud from cheesequake, it might test at 15% THC. If you take a one gram sample of bubble hash made from that same cheesequake plant, it will test at 40%+ THC. Nothing changed but the amount of trichomes in that given sample ....... so yes, with your claim that you produce all of these new trichomes on your plant after 48 hours of darkness, you are also claiming to increase the THC% (and other canabinoids).

I will drop this, and if I am wrong in any way I will apologize .... but I don't think that I am. You made an extraordinary claim, and have not backed it up with one shred of proof other than your naked eyeball test. I love learning new things, but I also feel it's important to be as accurate and factual as possible. This thread is full of good info and will serve as a research tool for many people, myself included. Nobody benefits from BS however.
 
Illegal Wonder

Illegal Wonder

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I've been doing pretty well up til the last week... I have about 3 weeks left and the wait is starting to "weigh" on me. I'm only on my second flowering so its all very exciting still. By the looks of things the Heri are putting out quite a bit more this time than my last go.

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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Javadog said:
FWIW, all that sparked the debate was the phrase "2-3X" resin production
(or some such, I will not look back).

I understood the push-back because, on the face of it, this looks like an
incredible statement.

I thought that the article was very interesting. "Hash Tips"...lol...wow!

So, I am keeping an open mind, tend to believe that something good is
happening, and will think about trying this when I can figure out where
to house plants in the dark. (my tent is now perpetual)

Thank you all for taking the time.

JD
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Yeah same reason here. Always run perpetual, never have a place to experiment with keeping a plant in the dark. I have 3 clones I will try it on end of this cycle, moving the entire rig so might as well.
 
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