And so God made a liberal

[NorthofEngland]

Liberals are not funny when they talk about political things.

If bankers provided a worthless service, then why do all Americans have a bank?

I mean srsly, the only people I know who don't have a checking account are drug addicts.

That's the point.
Banking services are essential and useful
but allowing a tiny minority of top bankers to monopolise so much economic (and by extension political) power is the bone of contention that most 'liberals' dislike.

I wear cotton shirts but this cannot be taken as tacit approval for the historic use of slaves in the cotton fields.
Using banking services IS NOT approval for every aspect of the banking industry.

But this recurring and typically conservative refusal to acknowledge the degrees of grey in a situation, rather than all issues boiled down to BLACK/WHITE. YES/NO
is one of the ways that Conservatives oversimplify and distort the options available.

Banks - YES or NO?
Banks but with rules, much change and greater protection through government oversight.

 

[Doer]

Ah, good day North. I hope you are feeling just fine, by now.

 

[canndo]

I don't think every progressive liberal is like the video portrayed, get real.
Maybe 70% of them.

Hence the 70 percent of strawmen pictured. i also noticed that the little casting of aspersions couldn't manage to find quite enough pictures to display it's message, what's the matter? aren't there enough pictures of liberals to last through the video? I am glad that exorcising the "other", blaming the "other", taking issue with what "the other" eats, wears and thinks is important for certain authoritarian tribes and that is why this video brings a smile to your face "I am not them, I am comfortable in my own tribe and the "other" is not only foreign but somehow evil and perhaps the source of all of my and my tribe's problems"

And so, if you read back upon my threads describing this very thing, you will see that not only the video, but your near total acceptance of it, complete with your final little jape, is again proving my point.

 

[beenthere]

Hence the 70 percent of strawmen pictured. i also noticed that the little casting of aspersions couldn't manage to find quite enough pictures to display it's message, what's the matter? aren't there enough pictures of liberals to last through the video? I am glad that exorcising the "other", blaming the "other", taking issue with what "the other" eats, wears and thinks is important for certain authoritarian tribes and that is why this video brings a smile to your face "I am not them, I am comfortable in my own tribe and the "other" is not only foreign but somehow evil and perhaps the source of all of my and my tribe's problems"

And so, if you read back upon my threads describing this very thing, you will see that not only the video, but your near total acceptance of it, complete with your final little jape, is again proving my point.

Is it all about your points, canndo?

 

[canndo]

Is it all about your points, canndo?

It is all about the truth. As you go on proving my point, you go on affirming the truth.

 

[lilroach]

I believe liberals are well-meaning people that are all about fairness and justice.

That being said, there are a lot of contradictions to these beliefs....for instance....in the name of protecting the planet blocking at all cost a pipe-line that will create jobs and will either be run here in the states, or across Canada and give them jobs....at the same time are all for wind-turbines that have been documented to be killing 100's of thousands of bird, some of them near extinction, every year.

I just wished liberals would dig a little deeper into the solutions to our problems before acting on them. We're all paying a costly premium for the ethanol program that is doing nothing to better our environment.....(before someone jumps on here and points out that this program started under Bush....it still was a liberal program).

 

[canndo]

I believe liberals are well-meaning people that are all about fairness and justice.

That being said, there are a lot of contradictions to these beliefs....for instance....in the name of protecting the planet blocking at all cost a pipe-line that will create jobs and will either be run here in the states, or across Canada and give them jobs....at the same time are all for wind-turbines that have been documented to be killing 100's of thousands of bird, some of them near extinction, every year.

I just wished liberals would dig a little deeper into the solutions to our problems before acting on them. We're all paying a costly premium for the ethanol program that is doing nothing to better our environment.....(before someone jumps on here and points out that this program started under Bush....it still was a liberal program).

Every major study on the subject shows that very few permanent jobs will be created by that pipeline. The company that proposes this pipeline has a history of leaky lines in other places. The pipeline will cross many tracts of private land and emenent domain trumps their rights to their own land. No contradiction at all.

Wind turbines will kill birds and upset cattle to say nothing of what it does to those who live close enough to them to hear the noise and see the strobe effect in their homes. However, it may well be that the killing of those birds will offset the killing of more wildlife should global warming be a reality. Liberals are in the business of weighing tough options.

Ethanol programs are a result of republican subsidies of corn and the monied influence of big ag. Liberals are not usually in favor of ethanol. Do conservatives take into account the number of humans who die as a result of our continued use of coal?

 

[GOD HERE]

If bankers provided a worthless service, then why do all Americans have a bank?

I mean srsly, the only people I know who don't have a checking account are drug addicts.

Is your mind really that fucking dull?

 

[UncleBuck]

Let's lighten this up a bit. After receiving this I sent it to friends. This has to be one of the funniest ones I've received. Enjoy....

***********************************************************************************************

A MAN'S AGE, AS DETERMINED BY A TRIP TO HOME DEPOT

You are in the middle of a few projects at your home: putting in a new fence, painting the basement walls, putting in a new garden. You are hot and sweaty, covered in dust, lawn clippings, dirt and paint. You have your old work clothes on. You know the outfit -- shorts with the hole in the crotch, old T-shirt with a stain from who-knows-what, and an old pair of tennis shoes.

Right in the middle of these projects you realize you need to run to Home Depot for supplies.

Depending on your age you might do the following:

In your 20s:
Stop what you are doing. Shave, take a shower, blow dry your hair, brush your teeth, floss and put on clean clothes.
Check yourself in the mirror and flex. Add a dab of your favorite cologne because, you never know, you just might meet some hot chick while standing in the checkout line.

And yes, you went to school with the pretty girl running the register.

In your 30s:
Stop what you are doing, put on clean shorts and shirt. Change your shoes. You married the hot chick so no need for much else.
Wash your hands and comb your hair. Check yourself in the mirror. Still got it. Add a shot of your favorite cologne to cover the smell.

The cute girl running the register is the kid sister to someone you went to school with.

In your 40s:
Stop what you are doing. Put on a sweatshirt that is long enough to cover the hole in the crotch of your shorts.
Put on different shoes and a hat. Wash your hands. Your bottle of Brute is almost empty, so don't waste any of it on a trip to Home Depot.
Check yourself in the mirror and do more sucking in than flexing.

The hot young thing running the register is your daughter's age and you feel weird about thinking she's spicy.

In your 50s:
Stop what you are doing. Put on a hat. Wipe the dirt off your hands onto your shirt. Change shoes because you don't want to get dog crap in your new sports car. Check yourself in the mirror and swear not to wear that shirt any more because it makes you look fat.

The cutie running the register smiles when she sees you coming and you think you still have it. Then you remember -- the hat you have on is from Bubba's Bait & Beer Bar and it says, 'I Got Worms '

In your 60s:
Stop what you are doing. No need for a hat any more. Hose the dog crap off your shoes. The mirror was shattered when you were in your 50s.
You hope you have underwear on so nothing hangs out the hole in your pants.

The girl running the register may be cute but you don't have your glasses on, so you're not sure.

In your 70s:
Stop what you are doing. Wait to go to Home Depot until the drug store has your prescriptions ready too. Don't even notice the dog crap on your shoes.

The young thing at the register stares at you and you realize your balls are hanging out the hole in your crotch.

In your 80s:
Stop what you are doing. Start again. Then stop again. Now you remember you need to go to Home Depot. Go to Wal-Mart instead.
You went to school with the old lady greeter.

You wander around trying to remember what you are looking for.
Then you fart out loud and think someone called your name.

In your 90s & beyond:
What's a home deep hoe? Something for my garden? Where am I? Who am I? Why am I reading this?
Did I send it? Did you? Who farted?

this proves the correlation between racists and the tendency to forward chain emails.

(in case anyone was unaware, uncleben will tell you to "cut that n***er shit out" if you post rap music videos and has som eeven choicer words about the president)

 

[ginwilly]

I don't really think anyone here thinks UBen wrote that.

It's funny man, funny because it's true. That's what makes the best comedy, poking fun at every day life.

"I used to smoke pot, I still do, but I used to too".

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't really think anyone here thinks UBen wrote that.

It's funny man, funny because it's true. That's what makes the best comedy, poking fun at every day life.

"I used to smoke pot, I still do, but I used to too".

no, it's not funny. it's a chain email, which should be a pretty good giveaway that i don't think that uncleben wrote it. it's stupid.

dumb old racists with aol.com email accounts perpetuate this unfunny garbage whenever they're not too busy making outright nasty racial slurs at the president.

and i'm not talking about calling him a mulatto. uncleben has done much worse than that.

 

[ginwilly]

dumb old racists with aol.com email accounts

Ok, that was funny too. The aol.com email account is an excellent burn.

me thinks you are a bit too sensitive though, or have not gotten through the first stage of home depot shopping.

 

[beenthere]

Every major study on the subject shows that very few permanent jobs will be created by that pipeline. The company that proposes this pipeline has a history of leaky lines in other places. The pipeline will cross many tracts of private land and emenent domain trumps their rights to their own land. No contradiction at all.

Wind turbines will kill birds and upset cattle to say nothing of what it does to those who live close enough to them to hear the noise and see the strobe effect in their homes. However, it may well be that the killing of those birds will offset the killing of more wildlife should global warming be a reality. Liberals are in the business of weighing tough options.

Ethanol programs are a result of republican subsidies of corn and the monied influence of big ag. Liberals are not usually in favor of ethanol. Do conservatives take into account the number of humans who die as a result of our continued use of coal?

The bureaucrat loving left and their studies LOL

We can't burn coal because it's bad for the air quality
We can't build hydro electric dams because of indigenous fish spawns
We can't use fossil fuels because of global warming
We can't use wind turbines because it kills birds.
We can't construct new nuclear reactors because of radiation

And you blame everyone else because we can't find jobs.

 

[BigNBushy]

Every major study on the subject shows that very few permanent jobs will be created by that pipeline. The company that proposes this pipeline has a history of leaky lines in other places. The pipeline will cross many tracts of private land and emenent domain trumps their rights to their own land. No contradiction at all.

You think the fact that construction workers will get very good paying jobs for a few years to build the pipeline is not a good thing, because the hundreds or thousands of construction workers will eventually go build something else? The same thing could have been said about the interstate highway system.

The leaks only serve to ensure continued employment for a few more people.

Unlike the Alaskan pipeline, I see no obstacle to putting this one underground. One certainly couldn't dig there, but if its pasture land, which the bulk of it is if it is being used at all, then it wont even have a lasting impact.

Take a look at a pipeline map of the United States sometime. They are everywhere.

 

[ginwilly]

I think the opposition to the pipeline is more about the hatred for fossil fuels and the thought is if we let the pipeline come here, it will retard our quest for alternative energy.

We are going to use oil in this country, whether we get it from our ground or from other countries. We gave Brazil 5Billion to drill offshore there so we could buy it from them instead of drilling here. Not sure how buying it from someone other than ourselves helps in global warming. We are at the mercy of OPEC and have our noses firmly in the middle east because we won't drill here.

We are going to use fossil fuels until something better is discovered or invented. Denying our country a chance at energy independence in the mean time is counter-intuitive. Whether that energy source comes from our own backyard or our neighbor's backyard is not what is going to depend on alternatives.

 

[UncleBuck]

I think the opposition to the pipeline is more about the hatred for fossil fuels and the thought is if we let the pipeline come here, it will retard our quest for alternative energy.

We are going to use oil in this country, whether we get it from our ground or from other countries. We gave Brazil 5Billion to drill offshore there so we could buy it from them instead of drilling here. Not sure how buying it from someone other than ourselves helps in global warming. We are at the mercy of OPEC and have our noses firmly in the middle east because we won't drill here.

We are going to use fossil fuels until something better is discovered or invented. Denying our country a chance at energy independence in the mean time is counter-intuitive. Whether that energy source comes from our own backyard or our neighbor's backyard is not what is going to depend on alternatives.

goddamn you are clueless.

a huge amount of the opposition to the keystone pipeline is coming from farmers and ranchers in nebraska. that ogallala aquifer is their lifeline and they don't want you shitting in it with tar sands.

we get so little of our oil from the middle east that it is a joke, just like every post you make.

 

[BigNBushy]

I think the opposition to the pipeline is more about the hatred for fossil fuels and the thought is if we let the pipeline come here, it will retard our quest for alternative energy.

We are going to use oil in this country, whether we get it from our ground or from other countries. We gave Brazil 5Billion to drill offshore there so we could buy it from them instead of drilling here. Not sure how buying it from someone other than ourselves helps in global warming. We are at the mercy of OPEC and have our noses firmly in the middle east because we won't drill here.

We are going to use fossil fuels until something better is discovered or invented. Denying our country a chance at energy independence in the mean time is counter-intuitive. Whether that energy source comes from our own backyard or our neighbor's backyard is not what is going to depend on alternatives.

I think our reluctance to drill for oil might be strategic.

I tend to think that we might not ever run out of oil, I think the planet makes it. I'm not a big fan of the theory that all oil is liquefied plants and animals. But then again, geology and what other discipline might apply are ones I don't study too much. SO I'm no expert. (In other words, I do not wish to derail the thread to discuss the opinion I just gave. I provided a warning that I'm not an expert, I am well aware that most scientists think oil is plant and animal remains, so be it.)

Provided the theory that we get oil from plants and animals is true, one day we will run out. Some say that day is near. But most say that day will come. Yet the US and Canada (from what I heard on TV the other day) have more oil in the shale areas than all of the mid-east.

Might the United States be sandbagging production so that if we (the Earth) are going to run out of oil one day, that we (North America) will be the last place with a vast reserve in the ground?

 

[UncleBuck]

I think our reluctance to drill for oil might be strategic.

I tend to think that we might not ever run out of oil, I think the planet makes it. I'm not a big fan of the theory that all oil is liquefied plants and animals. But then again, geology and what other discipline might apply are ones I don't study too much. SO I'm no expert. (In other words, I do not wish to derail the thread to discuss the opinion I just gave. I provided a warning that I'm not an expert, I am well aware that most scientists think oil is plant and animal remains, so be it.)

Provided the theory that we get oil from plants and animals is true, one day we will run out. Some say that day is near. But most say that day will come. Yet the US and Canada (from what I heard on TV the other day) have more oil in the shale areas than all of the mid-east.

Might the United States be sandbagging production so that if we (the Earth) are going to run out of oil one day, that we (North America) will be the last place with a vast reserve in the ground?

if you knew the first damn thing about economics, you'd know that oil will never run out.

but it is glaringly apparent that you do not know the first thing about economics. see above.

 

[ginwilly]

goddamn you are clueless.

a huge amount of the opposition to the keystone pipeline is coming from farmers and ranchers in nebraska. that ogallala aquifer is their lifeline and they don't want you shitting in it with tar sands.

we get so little of our oil from the middle east that it is a joke, just like every post you make.

If by huge amount of opposition you mean small amount compared to the political opposition then I agree. There is also opposition to the fact the lands are condemned when typically it's a mineral rights sale. There is also opposition because it's a Canadian company using imported steel.

We only get.. what? about 15% of our oil from the middle east? That's not insignificant. It's enough to affect our foreign policies concerning the region. You know this to be true.
We are beholden to the shady practices of OPEC.

We get less than 40% from our own lands, we could do 100% if we wanted and be completely energy independent. Or we could do less and stay with NAFTA partners ONLY and be much better off.

If you think that what we get from the middle east is "so little it's a joke", I'd have to disagree. If you are correct in that it's so little, let's stop, nobody would notice.

When people say we need to become energy independent and the argument against is "but the keystone pipeline is..." the logical answer would be to look for other avenues to extract our own. It's not the keystone or nothing is it?

 

[ginwilly]

I think our reluctance to drill for oil might be strategic.

I tend to think that we might not ever run out of oil, I think the planet makes it. I'm not a big fan of the theory that all oil is liquefied plants and animals. But then again, geology and what other discipline might apply are ones I don't study too much. SO I'm no expert. (In other words, I do not wish to derail the thread to discuss the opinion I just gave. I provided a warning that I'm not an expert, I am well aware that most scientists think oil is plant and animal remains, so be it.)

Provided the theory that we get oil from plants and animals is true, one day we will run out. Some say that day is near. But most say that day will come. Yet the US and Canada (from what I heard on TV the other day) have more oil in the shale areas than all of the mid-east.

Might the United States be sandbagging production so that if we (the Earth) are going to run out of oil one day, that we (North America) will be the last place with a vast reserve in the ground?

Studies I've seen say we have anywhere between 100-200 years worth under us RIGHT NOW. That's with present technology, who knows how much as new methods are discovered (or as you say, new oil is produced). I would hope in that time frame we've learned to build a better battery. The economic boon to the country (see the Dakotas) is reason enough.

I believe the main reason we stay with the middle east is because oil is traded in dollars. If we pulled out and oil was traded in a different currency, it would be the first domino in replacing the dollar as the world's currency. If the dollar is replaced, it's grab our ankles time.