outdoor growing question

Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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So hello everyone I just have a few question I'm trying to do a out side grow in the spring I was just ting to find out how big of a hole would I need in order to have a plant in the ground from say late march to like the end of October an what Ulf be the best way to grow it let or mainlining or jus let it grow up like a pine tree an the soil I want to try organic bag soil any cheap brands I show go with that work well

Thanks for any advice in advance
 
michaeljdumpout

michaeljdumpout

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Rule of thumb is 1 foot holes for 1 foot plants but I normally do 5 gallon holes and get around 6 footers....as far as training goes I Lst a lot of my crop for better air flow and so it don't look like bud it looks more of a cactus...soil matters but u can get away with native soil and a little amendments
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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I would like to lst my plant or maybe mainline it to get the most yield but I'm most concern about the hole size to keep my plant healthy an not root bound to get the most yield out of it
 
vostok

vostok

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Get a kiddy pool, in various sizes, dig out the hole so the pool sits in the hole then a trailer of your local organic mix from the hippies down the road, fill the pool,
1; ensure the pool is on a slope, so when it rains it runs ofsite
2; cover pool and soil with tarp and 6-9 inchs of local soil, do it now before mid spring

good luck
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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I only plan on doing one plant out side I don't really need a pool fool of dirt how about a 7 to ten gallon hole
 
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CaretakerDad

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I dig the holes for my outdoor 3' x 3'. I then sift the dirt from the hole with a 1/4" screed and add about 2 cu ft of perlite and 2 bags of Miracle Grow. In the bottom of the hole I put about 1' of this mix and add about 1/2 gallon of very old (20+ years) chicken shit also sifted and mix well I then plant 18" - 24" plants and depending on the strain I get between 1.5 - 5 lbs per plant with very little additional nutrients such as weekly feedings of 1/2 strength Miracle Grow and then a bud hardener such as Gravity in flower.
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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So I really don't need a big hole to grow a plant like five or six feet an get a couples ounces off it dry.
 
AimAim

AimAim

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Thomas2681 said:
I only plan on doing one plant out side I don't really need a pool fool of dirt how about a 7 to ten gallon hole
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Much depends on where you live and how good your native soil is. There are places in the midwest with fantastic prairie soil, and rich river bottom (alluvial) soils are found from coast to coast. Then you got where I live where the soil is just the a fine powder existing between the rocks.

Generally a hole 3' wide and 3' deep, just dug up and rolled over and loosened can grow a whale of a plant. Add some vermiculite (not perlite too bright white and attracts attention). Add a bag of peat moss for aeration and moisture permeation. If you got some real shit soil you might have to haul some in. A couple big handfuls of dolomite and a handful of Osmocote 15-9-12 and you are set.

I'll qualify this as being a Midwest scenerio with a fair ammt of rain and high humidities. I think things work differently on the Left Coast and drier environments.
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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Naw I'm on the east cost Virginia close to the beaches I was not going to use the soil from the hole I dug I was already going to replace that with organic soil from the hydro store so a hole three foot wide an three foot deep is all I need if I plan to start my grow in late march an crop it around October
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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So I did a lil more research an I read on another form if I'm veggin for more then 4 months out side you need some said 40 gal smart pots some said 100 gal smart pots some said 200 gal smart pots what do I really need to get the most out of my yield from one plant
 
AimAim

AimAim

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No answer to that question other than to say that the more root system you grow, the more leaf you will grow, and the more bud you will grow.
 
Garden Boss

Garden Boss

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You should be able you get a pound plant from a 20 gallon smart pot. Its heavy when filled with soil, but still moveable. I recommend Tan color with handles, just incase you need to relocate. Happy frog soil (my fav) and MaxSea for nutrients. I am not sure on what strain would be best for that area.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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I seldom disagree with GB, but IMHO you need to use twice the size of smart pot as regular container. It has to do with how a smart pot works. I use 100gl smart pots, but I'm only really growing in about 50gl in the center. Using a 20 smarty means your only gonna grow in 10gls of soil, that's not enough for a healthy 1lb plant,,,,,unless your Garden Boss caliber grower.
Good luck but soil is dirt cheap (excuse the pun), and you can fill a 100gl pot for $50 worth of quality soil, and turn it into a pound or more of top shelf. Not a bad return on investment....I'd go as big as you can afford....
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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I don't want to get spotted from over head tho like on tv I jus was a bushy plant so it look like a single bush from over head
 
Thomas2681

Thomas2681

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I'm a grown man not some high schooler I'm not a fan of show an tell so how wouldn't anyone know its in my back yard to even start to look there for it
 
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