AllDayToker
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E=mc2 
Javadog's Next Adventure
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bigworm6969
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hahahaha dont let ur meat loaf
bassman999
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I am just doing the KISS method
7gm maxibloom/gall water ph'd to 6 or lower via drops.
I measured it and the ppm/EC matched closely to what the net says it would be so Ill see what happens in the next few days
EDIT
The cup of waters ppm didnt go down in 24 hrs, but the 2 gal in bucket I set out to feed today went down to 171, maybe because that water went through carbon filter though.
7gm maxibloom/gall water ph'd to 6 or lower via drops.
I measured it and the ppm/EC matched closely to what the net says it would be so Ill see what happens in the next few days
EDIT
The cup of waters ppm didnt go down in 24 hrs, but the 2 gal in bucket I set out to feed today went down to 171, maybe because that water went through carbon filter though.
Shwagbag
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Ahhh yes. EC=PPM/500 or PPM=ECx500.
That is weird as hell that the meters use different conversions? I suppose at the end of the day EC is the appropriate standard and PPM is an approximation based off the EC, so it seems its somewhat objective..... Or something LOL.
Bass see link. I'm sure I'll remember all of that at the end of the day tomorrow.......... errrr maybe not LOL
Technically I have a TDS meter, I don't know why I always call it an EC meter.
Evenin' fellerz! Time to roast!
That is weird as hell that the meters use different conversions? I suppose at the end of the day EC is the appropriate standard and PPM is an approximation based off the EC, so it seems its somewhat objective..... Or something LOL.
Bass see link. I'm sure I'll remember all of that at the end of the day tomorrow.......... errrr maybe not LOL
Technically I have a TDS meter, I don't know why I always call it an EC meter.
Evenin' fellerz! Time to roast!
bassman999
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I might not be understanding right, but here is what I got from the link...
Seawater use .5 conversion factor, hydroponics (non sea water) .67 or .7
Javadog
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I have been considering changing to a simpler nute system bass.
What I need is something that will make it easier to make different
feeds for different plants. This is another factor on going perpetual.
I am basically making a large batch of full strength nute-water and
then feed those plants needing a full feeding, then I water it down
and feed those plants needing a weaker feeding. I do this again
if I have seedlings that need little or no food.
A powdered approach, one that I can weigh in small amounts for
small batches, and that has most or all of what my plants need is
something that would help a lot.
Does that include Si and Cal-Mag?
JD
What I need is something that will make it easier to make different
feeds for different plants. This is another factor on going perpetual.
I am basically making a large batch of full strength nute-water and
then feed those plants needing a full feeding, then I water it down
and feed those plants needing a weaker feeding. I do this again
if I have seedlings that need little or no food.
A powdered approach, one that I can weigh in small amounts for
small batches, and that has most or all of what my plants need is
something that would help a lot.
Does that include Si and Cal-Mag?
JD
bassman999
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I have read that clones veg flower and mothers all can do the KISS method, and Maxibloom is the one used most.
No need for Maxi grow at all.
7grams per gallon water and ph to needs and thats it.
I have seen hella threads and pics and some great plants.
You can go lower strength for really young plants obviously.
bassman999
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Thats a good way to do it.
I have actually used maxibloom in the past as just the flowering aspect 2 yrs ago, and they came out great.
I did use molasses during flowering with the maxi.
I had used maxigrow for veg then though, so this is the only difference.
bassman999
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Thundercat
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I've been using the lucas formula for a couple years, with good results. I actually feed ALL my plants the same nutes pretty much their whole lives, and they do really good. I will say I really like the floranova mix more the the maxibloom. Its almost the same nutes, the flora nova just mixes sooo much easier but does cost a little more.
bassman999
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I mix the powder in hot water, then after I shake it up add it to the water.
Much more cost effective for the powdered one.
If price wasnt an issue I would use liquid I suppose though as I am lazy
HydroGp
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This will help what ppm to use
There are many different scales used for different industries around the world and for many different reasons! Did you even know there are more than two scales? The most widely used scales in Hydroponics are the 500 scale, 650 scale and the 700 scale.
What's the difference? The ppm 700 scale is based on measuring the KCl or potassium chloride content of a solution. The ppm 500 is based on measuring the NaCl or sodium chloride content of a solution and is also referred to as TDS - total dissolved solids. Individual nutrient ions have different electrical effects! The true ppm of a solution can only be determined by a chemical analysis. ppm cannot be accurately measured by a CF or EC meter. They are present on Bluelab products as a conversion guide only. The conversion is as follows:
2.4EC x 500 = 1200ppm (500 scale) or 1200ppm / 500 = 2.4EC
2.4EC x 700 = 1680ppm (700 scale) or 1680ppm / 700 = 2.4EC
If you are reading from a book that says you should grow your crop at 1100ppm - how do you know which scale the writer is referring to? Is the scale on your ppm meter right for the job? If the book was written in the USA, it could be the 650 or 500 scale. If the book is written in the UK, it could be the 700 scale. If it was written in Australia, well it could be any of the three!
If you must grow using ppm, you will need to know the following;
- What ppm scale is the book referring to?
- What ppm scale is your meter using?
- Which standard or calibration solution should you use for your meter?
- What ppm scale is the nutrient formula referring to
bassman999
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Great info Hydro..Thanx!
I thik Ill just forgo ppm/ec and all that now and do this Lucas and KISS type feeding.
My main goal now will be stabilizing ph.
I thik Ill just forgo ppm/ec and all that now and do this Lucas and KISS type feeding.
My main goal now will be stabilizing ph.
Javadog
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Good morning all.
I was checking the Purple Wreck this morning, and I saw
that it was putting what I thought was too much energy
into making side branches, branches that I knew would be
removed when it was up-potted to it's final hempy pot.
So, I took three new clones:
and the lady has a new home:
I am going to let her grow out. Her trunk was greening up
nicely after I lightened (to basically nothing ;0) her diet.
Have a great day all.
JD
P.S. I had the new sprouts, raised up, under the HOT5s of
the Clone Table, and I noticed that they were not looking as
happy. Once again it was heat, I am sure. Damping Off is
a mold attack IIRC, and I know that fresh air is the enemy
of molds, so I put the babies into the Veg Closet and they
are looking really good.
Here is Ace's Purple Haze:
It was kinda sitting on the rock next to it (it is taller now :0),
like it was all "I am tired and will now take a nap" when I saw
that it needed attention. LOL
I was checking the Purple Wreck this morning, and I saw
that it was putting what I thought was too much energy
into making side branches, branches that I knew would be
removed when it was up-potted to it's final hempy pot.
So, I took three new clones:
and the lady has a new home:
I am going to let her grow out. Her trunk was greening up
nicely after I lightened (to basically nothing ;0) her diet.
Have a great day all.
JD
P.S. I had the new sprouts, raised up, under the HOT5s of
the Clone Table, and I noticed that they were not looking as
happy. Once again it was heat, I am sure. Damping Off is
a mold attack IIRC, and I know that fresh air is the enemy
of molds, so I put the babies into the Veg Closet and they
are looking really good.
Here is Ace's Purple Haze:
It was kinda sitting on the rock next to it (it is taller now :0),
like it was all "I am tired and will now take a nap" when I saw
that it needed attention. LOL
glockdoc
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sup gang been a while! i used the maxibloom lucas formula with good results. i did accompany it however with some roots organic bloom which is .5-2-1 and i did supplement with a 0-9-19 blossum booster. so i guess it wasnt all lucas formula but my point in this was there was not much of an addition of nitrogen to maxis 5 and plants did show a healthy green.
thats just me though.
the thing about maxibloom lucas formula is that you do have to weigh out 7 grams of it, which is not following the directions on the back. so if i had to guess there would be plenty of nitrogen in that feed.
do what you do best and read the plants before and after the feed, then adjust to your likings. you do this very well as we can all see from the pictures in this thread.
thats just me though.
the thing about maxibloom lucas formula is that you do have to weigh out 7 grams of it, which is not following the directions on the back. so if i had to guess there would be plenty of nitrogen in that feed.
do what you do best and read the plants before and after the feed, then adjust to your likings. you do this very well as we can all see from the pictures in this thread.
bassman999
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I see Glocdoc already chimed in, but from what I have seen and read no defeciencies for the most part.
I am sure there are some strains that are picky though, and may need an adjustment of some sort, but mostly I have just seen some sativas backed down to 5 grams/gal from slight tip burn