Yea i'm on the wall with this. I think i wanna go with the 4 hans panels(65w, can't afford the 80) but apache tech has a read and blue led for $859 but it doesn't give a whole lot of specifics about the light footprint or if it will work well/do the job throughout the whole grow(seed to harvest). $800 for a light is really stretching my budget thin as i can pick up a comeplete, dimmable 1000w hps setup for $420, ballast and all, and spend the money on other luxuries(meters, bigger air pump, more/bigger air stones, etc.). I'm gonna do a few runs with bagseeds to see what works before i invest in some strains.But the lighting issue is really killing me atm. I'm also gonna do a combination of scrog, defoliating, supercropping, basically anything i can to form and maintain the most even canopy possible. So light penetration shouldn't be an issue especially with only 4 buckets in a 4x4 setup. I just want the lighting that i do get, to produce the results i expect. Or at least have the ability to(without any screwups on my end anyways, which i'm sure i'll encounter haha). As i am, by no means an expert. Just an informed adventurer about to embark on a quest.