I think I understand why minorities tend to not vote Republican.

MidwesternGro

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The Southern strategy was a concerted effort by Republicans to appeal to racism against African Americans in the South. The Republicans, much like the Nazis, rose to power by scapegoating a hated minority.

The South voted democrat at one time, but civil rights legislation pushed by the Democrats in the 1960s allowed Republicans to capitalize by appealing to hatred against black people. The Republicans pushed segregation and Jim Crow laws in order to win the votes of racists. They won the South, but also lost a huge majority of black voters. Echoes of this can be seen today with Republicans being against social safety nets because minorities might "get something."

According to Wikipedia:

"In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the NAACP for ignoring the black vote and exploiting racial conflicts."

This strategy caused much suffering in African American communities.

"Atwater on the Southern Strategy
As a member of the Reagan administration in 1981, Atwater gave an anonymous interview to political scientist Alexander P. Lamis. Part of the interview was printed in Lamis's book The Two-Party South, then reprinted in Southern Politics in the 1990s with Atwater's name revealed. Bob Herbert reported on the interview in the October 6, 2005, edition of the New York Times. On November 13, 2012, The Nation magazine released what it claimed to be audio of the full interview.[SUP][7][/SUP] James Carter IV, grandson of former president Jimmy Carter, had asked and been granted access to these tapes by the widow of the recently deceased interviewer, Mr. Lamis. Atwater talked about the Republican Southern Strategy and Ronald Reagan's version of it:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*gger, n*gger, n*gger." By 1968 you can't say "n*gger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*gger, n*gger."[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater#Atwater_on_the_Southern_Strategy

Is it really any surprise that vulnerable minorities don't trust a political party that hates them? As I type this, the Republican party continues its soft pogrom against blacks and is now shifting its sights on religious minorities. The Republicans are trying to exploit the hate against religions other than Christianity.

 

Canna Sylvan

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Why vote at all. What good did it do Socrates? Democracy only serves those who can make up the propaganda in the OP.
 

justugh

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it does not matter

they do not do anything anyways but fight....leave the office to go and try to reelected..... miss votes...take bribes....and make horrible choice that effect everyone but themself

it is honestly time clean house so when u get a chance to vote again pick anyone but the person in office they can not do any worst then what they are doing now

u have to vote it in to see what is in it was the worst crime on the american ppl since death taxes(gov gets 33% of your money when u die)
 

Canna Sylvan

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actually, they are.
I got an A+ on my Lincoln report in the 6th grade. My grandmother told me not to brag about it to the next door lady who usually asked about what I did in school, whose family came from Georgia and wasn't too happy about Sherman burning Atlanta and raping its women. It's all clever spin.
 

UncleBuck

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I got an A+ on my Lincoln report in the 6th grade. My grandmother told me not to brag about it to the next door lady who usually asked about what I did in school, whose family came from Georgia and wasn't too happy about Sherman burning Atlanta and raping its women. It's all clever spin.
cool story, sistah.

they're still historical facts though.
 

MidwesternGro

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Those aren't historical facts. You need to look up Robert "Grand Cyclops" Byrd.
Surely you see a difference between a party whose platform is racism, hatred of gays, prejudice against immigrants and bigotry against nonchristians (Republicans) and one who had a racist at one time but is not based upon racism (Democrats). The Republican party, at its core, is rotten with hatred of minorities. Look at "Bobby" Jindal -- sure you can be a repub, just give up your Indian name and your Indian religion. Disgusting.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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Surely you see a difference between a party whose platform is racism, hatred of gays, prejudice against immigrants and bigotry against nonchristians (Republicans) and one who had a racist at one time but is not based upon racism (Democrats). The Republican party, at its core, is rotten with hatred of minorities. Look at "Bobby" Jindal -- sure you can be a repub, just give up your Indian name and your Indian religion. Disgusting.
For Fucks Sake!

You have a serious problem with hate.
 

UncleBuck

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Surely you see a difference between a party whose platform is racism, hatred of gays, prejudice against immigrants and bigotry against nonchristians (Republicans) and one who had a racist at one time but is not based upon racism (Democrats). The Republican party, at its core, is rotten with hatred of minorities. Look at "Bobby" Jindal -- sure you can be a repub, just give up your Indian name and your Indian religion. Disgusting.
nikki haley too.
 

Canna Sylvan

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cool story, sistah.

they're still historical facts though.
The historical record is Democrats are still racist, but back then you could get away with it more? Racism wasn't cured, Democrats just kept their mouth shut in public. Today there are pro-life Democrats, but they keep their mouth shut outside church. If either side gets caught doing their real opinion, it might become a huge scandal or a rejected local story.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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then why don't they cater to xenophobia, bigotry, racism, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, and anti-gay sentiments like the republicans do?
YES
Every republican is like Hitler and just hates everything.

You need a special test.
Your elevator isn't going to the top floor anymore.
 

Canna Sylvan

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then why don't they cater to xenophobia, bigotry, racism, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, and anti-gay sentiments like the republicans do?
Republicans and Democrats are part of the same play, but have their casted roles. "It's not my fault, the Republicans made me attach this xenophobia, bigotry, racism, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, and anti-gay sentiments rider bill."

[video=youtube;Xdd0edT-BeE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdd0edT-BeE[/video]
 

twostrokenut

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Not that I am a republican but a good read:

KKK Terrorist Arm of the Democratic Party

By Frances Rice

History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University. As a further testament to his impeccable credentials, Professor Foner is only the second person to serve as president of the three major professional organizations: the Organization of American Historians, American Historical Association, and Society of American Historians. Democrats in the last century did not hide their connections to the Ku Klux Klan. Georgia-born Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wrote on page 21 of the September 1928 edition of the Klan’s “The Kourier Magazine”: “I have never voted for any man who was not a regular Democrat. My father … never voted for any man who was not a Democrat. My grandfather was …the head of the Ku Klux Klan in reconstruction days…. My great-grandfather was a life-long Democrat…. My great-great-grandfather was…one of the founders of the Democratic party.”

Dr. Foner in his book explores the history of the origins of Ku Klux Klan and provides a chilling account of the atrocities committed by Democrats against Republicans, black and white.

On page 146 of his book, Professor Foner wrote: “Founded in 1866 as a Tennessee social club, the Ku Klux Klan spread into nearly every Southern state, launching a ‘reign of terror‘ against Republican leaders black and white.” Page 184 of his book contains the definitive statements: “In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired the restoration of white supremacy. It aimed to destroy the Republican party’s infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.”

Heartbreaking are Professor Foner’s recitations of the horrific acts of terror inflicted by Democrats on black and white Republicans. Recounted on pages 184-185 of his book is one such act of terror: “Jack Dupree, a victim of a particularly brutal murder in Monroe County, Mississippi - assailants cut his throat and disemboweled him, all within sight of his wife, who had just given birth to twins - was ‘president of a republican club‘ and known as a man who ‘would speak his mind.’”

“White gangs roamed New Orleans, intimidating blacks and breaking up Republican meetings,“ wrote Dr. Foner on page 146 of his book. On page 186, he wrote: “An even more extensive ‘reign of terror’ engulfed Jackson, a plantation county in Florida’s panhandle. ‘That is where Satan has his seat,‘ remarked a black clergyman; all told over 150 persons were killed, among them black leaders and Jewish merchant Samuel Fleischman, resented for his Republican views and for dealing fairly with black customers.“

Frances Rice is the Chairman of the National Black Republican Association and may be contacted at: http://www.nbra.info/
 

MidwesternGro

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Not that I am a republican but a good read:

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On page 146 of his book, Professor Foner wrote: “Founded in 1866 as a Tennessee social club, the Ku Klux Klan spread into nearly every Southern state, launching a ‘reign of terror‘ against Republican leaders black and white.” Page 184 of his book contains the definitive statements: “In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired the restoration of white supremacy. It aimed to destroy the Republican party’s infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.”
Let me guess. You are a libertarian. LOL at you going back so far. Republicans = Racist today. Democrats = Not racist today.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Let me guess. You are a libertarian. LOL at you going back so far. Republicans = Racist today. Democrats = Not racist today.
I've said that same thing before... if dems were racists back in the 1800's and repubs not, well I'd probably have been a repub back then..
But being its the other way around in the 21st century, I tend to fall to the left now..
 

Canna Sylvan

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I've said that same thing before... if dems were racists back in the 1800's and repubs not, well I'd probably have been a repub back then..
But being its the other way around in the 21st century, I tend to fall to the left now..
You tend to fall in line? I tend not to fall left or right, but where my heart tells me.
 
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