is my res too cold?

ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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Hey guys, my res gets down to like 56°F (I think that's like 15-16°C) sometimes. Its usually around 61-63 with lights on. My setup needs some fine tuning, I've got some light leaks and have been dealing with a little bit of slime starting this week, I didnt think it was all that bad until I realize it had clogged the sprayers on the very end, farthest from the res/pump.

I've been treating with hygrozyme with every res change, + periodically adding some. I was also treating with H2o2 but ran out of both for a few days. I also have botanicares aquashield, is it the same thing as hygrozyme? I know people refer to it as "beneficial microbes", even though its just an enzyme (if I'm not mistaken) that helps break shit down, so that bacteria can dispose of it the rest of the way. But I notice aquashield says "liquid compost solution" so I'm not sure if they are the same thing or what, so I've not been using it.

I think tomorrow I'm gonna pick up some pondzyme from the pet store, see how it works out. Just wondering if my temps are getting too low for the plants to grow at their full potential, or for bacteria to be able to do its job.
 
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machead

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Water temp should be fine as long as you have decent temp at canopy height?

Light leak not good fix as soon as possible or you will run into problems.
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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Thanks man, yeah I'm gonna start addressing the light leaks first thing in the morning. Canopy height temps are perfect, about 80° at the canopy and 70° underneath. The res sits outside of the tent, that's how I'm able to keep it so cold. But I have noticed my line getting dirtier for the passed week, ever since I ran out of hygrozyme and h202.

thanks
 
Bucees

Bucees

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I've had a few that low before during my winter grows without a problem. I run the same strain and can't really tell a difference in yield from summer to winter.
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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Temps Will be fine but never, ever add h2o2 when using aqua shield or any beneficial. Either one or the other, never both.
 
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max420thc

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Im with super stoner.Never run bennies and H2O2 or DM zone at the same time.it will just kill the bennies.
Hygrozyme is not a bennie so can be run with zone or h2o2.
The colder water temps are good actually.
The colder water temps fool the plant into thinking its a cold fall rain and its time to add more resin to keep myself warm.
The colder the water the more oxygen it will hold also.So long as your res temps are not running in the 40 degree range you will be all good.
Light leaks will fuck you over big time..
If you want to run a sterile res i would suggest ZONE. along with the hygrozyme.
If you are getting any crap in your lines it is most probably caused by some organic material you are using on your plants..any humic acids or sea weed juices?
 
Hydroburn

Hydroburn

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you can fix the light leak issue and temps both at the same time by wrapping up your res with a few layers of silver bubble wrap or insulation. idk what hygrozyme is, but enzymes are food for microbes; food for both beneficial microbes and pathogens. If you add enzymes to a res that already has slime, you risk a major slime bloom adding enzymes. There are a lot of different kinds of bennies... bacteria, fungi, nematodes, etc. and the goal is to out-compete the bad ones. Aquashield is not the same thing as hygrozyme... it is liquid chicken shit (bacteria). It works really well and should be all you need. pond-zyme works well too... despite the name pondzyme is 5 species of bacteria with barley; not enzymes. nothing else I have tried has really been very successful for preventing slime. I have never tried h2o2 and don't know why anyone would use it.
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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I know the combination of aqua shield and pondzyme now let's me grow without a res chiller and in fact I don't even have a temp gauge on any of my RES's now.
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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max420thc said:
Im with super stoner.Never run bennies and H2O2 or DM zone at the same time.it will just kill the bennies.
Hygrozyme is not a bennie so can be run with zone or h2o2.
The colder water temps are good actually.
The colder water temps fool the plant into thinking its a cold fall rain and its time to add more resin to keep myself warm.
The colder the water the more oxygen it will hold also.So long as your res temps are not running in the 40 degree range you will be all good.
Light leaks will fuck you over big time..
If you want to run a sterile res i would suggest ZONE. along with the hygrozyme.
If you are getting any crap in your lines it is most probably caused by some organic material you are using on your plants..any humic acids or sea weed juices?
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Awesome! Yeah the resin production is already insane very early in flower. I'm only 3 weeks into the flip and all 4 strains seem like keepers. Already have nice trichome action, they are gonna be loaded with crystals.

Im not using the seaweed stuff, but I think I do have something with hunic acid. Maybe the vitamino? Driving in the snow right now and can't remember if I mentioned in using botanicare. Im also using the silica blast, not sure if that matters.

I picked up a piece of panda plastic to fix my light leak issue, that should be taken care of. I didn't puck up any hygrozyme; I'm hoping to fins some pondzyme locally.

Lemme get out of this snow and I'll read the other posts
 
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max420thc

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Hydroburn said:
you can fix the light leak issue and temps both at the same time by wrapping up your res with a few layers of silver bubble wrap or insulation. idk what hygrozyme is, but enzymes are food for microbes; food for both beneficial microbes and pathogens. If you add enzymes to a res that already has slime, you risk a major slime bloom adding enzymes. There are a lot of different kinds of bennies... bacteria, fungi, nematodes, etc. and the goal is to out-compete the bad ones. Aquashield is not the same thing as hygrozyme... it is liquid chicken shit (bacteria). It works really well and should be all you need. pond-zyme works well too... despite the name pondzyme is 5 species of bacteria with barley; not enzymes. nothing else I have tried has really been very successful for preventing slime. I have never tried h2o2 and don't know why anyone would use it.
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The reason zone or h2o2 are used.The h2o2 kills all bacteria ..good or bad in your res keeping it clean and sterile without problem at almost any temp range.The zone does the same thing..clean and sterile.
The roots love the stuff..The h2o2 has a extra oxygen molicule that the roots love.
The zone is more like a plant specific bleach that keeps the res clean and sterile.
Some growers are using bennies the first couple of weeks of bloom then switching over to the zone after about the third week.
The reason they are doing this is to get the explosive root growth you get from bennies ..then go to a sterile res after that so they are SURE..they have no problems with bad beasties developing in the res and root zone.
If using h2o2 you must refresh it in the res every third day..zone just put it in and forget it until you change your res the next time(preferably every week)
 
koffinkush

koffinkush

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clearez 1 drop per rez exchange never had nething but sparkly clean buckets n roots ..wouldnt recommend with organics tho
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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Sweeeeet, some good info I'm reading here. Yeah, see I heard you HAD to have bennies (from my local grow store guy), but I've definitely been going the sterile route instead, and has worked well for me so far--surprisingly so, considering the fact that I have clear lines and light leaks like hell (which are now taken care of).

I didn't know that there were two ways; sterile or with bennies. I'm sure that running bennies is much more ideal for healthy roots. Running the sterile res seems easier, but I've got a feeling that I would be doing myself a favor by getting the beneficial microbe system down.

Btw, I have roots organics Oregonism, which I'm pretty sure is safe for hydro, and is full of bennies. I also have a little sample pack of botanicares "zho", which I was using a little towards the beginning before I had a better understanfing of how it all worked.

Btw, the "zone" or "DM zone", what is that like a type of sterilizing agent? Who makes it?
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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Btw, thanks a bunch for the help guys. + rep to everyone who's helped out. Here's a few pics of how the gals are doing. I've popped 8 paid seeds now altogether, and all but 1 of them have been good enough to be keepers.

IMG_20140128_190624.jpgBlue dream
IMG_20140128_190704.jpgDesert diesel
IMG_20140128_190711.jpgI think that ones the purple wreck
IMG_20140128_190852.jpgBlue dream cola forming
IMG_20140128_190727.jpg A nug on my white lavender that I am in the process of harvesting. These guys were from my second run (soil), the ones in the aeroponic system are my first attempt at growing hydro/aero. Needless to say, I just started growing this passed summer so I am super stoked to be getting the results that I have been. Thanks again for all the help guys.
 
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max420thc

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DM..Zone is made by dutch masters.
Anytime you mix organics in hydro you can get a mess.
If you are growing hydro allot of times it is best not to use to heavy of organics.Bennies are fine.
Just for example if you are growing hydro..instead of using humic acids you can use a fulvic acid.
Instead of using sea weed juice use some sort of kelp extract.
If you use organic..use refined organics.If not your going to have a problem with slime.
 
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saemskin

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get one of those little heat wands with the suction cups on the side, they are like 20$ or something.
your plants will be happier with less of a shock at feeding time. Shoot for 60 degree, maybe 65 but no more than that.
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Try to get the res temps up a bit keep them in that 60-65 range if possible as the colder water can slow growth and decrease yeild. As mention dont mix the H202 with any organic or benificials as it kills them
 
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