Dave's First LED Grow Using Area 51

PetFlora

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Another element I had not considered: temperatures were quite cold over that same period, combined with no heat radiating
 

daveroller

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Brother Dave Didnt You Have Calcium Or Magnisum Defenicy??If So Those Spots You Are Seeing Are A Direct Cause Of Said Def.You See When Our Lovely Ladies Get A Defenicy We Can Only Manage It Keeping It From Getting Worse.These Spots Will Show Themselves Mostly On The Older Leaves.
I believe you're right, brother Dawg. At least they aren't insect eggs (I checked). I made some adjustments in my nutes this week, so I hope that I got it right now. I'm keeping an eye on it.

Thanks for the heads up!
 

daveroller

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Dave, I am using 2 gifted prototypes from A51, that are not going into production. They have no lenses, which EH suggested I add, but I haven't

I have a more advanced leaf issue that only appeared recently. It only developed ~ 4-5 days after I decreased the distance between canopy and lights by a measly 6"

I have a revegging mother in the same tent, but she is off to the side (farther away from the lights) no leaf issues. Also using the same nutes in my hot5 tent- no issues. Apparently distance is critical


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OK, thanks for the info. I'll have to put my system back on the floor at the next water change. I think my leaf issues are nute-related, though.
 

The Dawg

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I believe you're right, brother Dawg. At least they aren't insect eggs (I checked). I made some adjustments in my nutes this week, so I hope that I got it right now. I'm keeping an eye on it.

Thanks for the heads up!
No Problem Brother However Its Too Late For This Lady.Once You Get A Def And You Regain Control The Rements Of The Def Will Keep Showing Itself In The Older Leaves Cause These Were The Younger Leaves That Were Effected In The First Place.Stay Your Course And Make Your Nessary Adjustments Next Grow And See What Happens.Peace And My Moto Is We First Learn To Grow Then We Grow To Learn :bigjoint:
 

The Dawg

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OK, thanks for the info. I'll have to put my system back on the floor at the next water change. I think my leaf issues are nute-related, though.
Brother Dave If Your Light Was Too Close Your Pistils Would Look Lazy and Old.Yours My Brother Are Standing As Tall As Morning Wood.FYI Brother djwimbo Ran His light At 14 Inches With No Ill Effect And I Currently Have A Sgs-160 15 Inches Above My BigBudXWhiteWidow And She's Loving It.Now With That Said Some Strains Dont Like It That Close So Keep An Eye On Your Pistils They Will Tell When Your Light Is Too Close
 

greatbranch

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I believe you're right, brother Dawg. At least they aren't insect eggs (I checked). I made some adjustments in my nutes this week, so I hope that I got it right now. I'm keeping an eye on it.

Thanks for the heads up!
You would be able to catch a couple in your pics more than likely if it were mites - certainly the flash will light up the webs. It's one of the excuses I use to take pictures...lol. On the subject, I have never had them, and hope to never get them. I use a sponge that I keep saturated with Azamax around the trunks of my plants. I spray around my tent. They don't have wings, so I figure if they can't crawl up to the plant, I can avoid MOST trouble. Am I wasting Azamax in anyone's opinion?
 

supchaka

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You're only wasting it if you feel like it! Personally I don't put anything on the plants unless I have to. Its a matter of cheapness for me, and also ending up with the cleanest bud possible. Thats not always the case though, you gotta do what ya gotta do.
 

daveroller

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Brother Dave If Your Light Was Too Close Your Pistils Would Look Lazy and Old.Yours My Brother Are Standing As Tall As Morning Wood.FYI Brother djwimbo Ran His light At 14 Inches With No Ill Effect And I Currently Have A Sgs-160 15 Inches Above My BigBudXWhiteWidow And She's Loving It.Now With That Said Some Strains Dont Like It That Close So Keep An Eye On Your Pistils They Will Tell When Your Light Is Too Close
I wish I could find the 'Like' button, but it disappeared... Thanks for the info! Very useful!
 

daveroller

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No Problem Brother However Its Too Late For This Lady.Once You Get A Def And You Regain Control The Rements Of The Def Will Keep Showing Itself In The Older Leaves Cause These Were The Younger Leaves That Were Effected In The First Place.Stay Your Course And Make Your Nessary Adjustments Next Grow And See What Happens.Peace And My Moto Is We First Learn To Grow Then We Grow To Learn :bigjoint:
Yeah, I understand it's too late by the time you see signs of nute problems. So my harvest will suffer this time around, but should be enough to get me through to the next one at least. Next time everything else will be the same -- same system and light, etc. I'll just make sure to add Cal/Mag every time and keep the tds down below 1200 ppm.
 

PSUAGRO.

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You're doing a way better job than my first led grow...... going to yield just fine this run and the coming grows.

Be safe
 

greatbranch

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D - and everybody else... Just trying to help spread the word. Check these out. Got it from the Dawg's thread. They are tight! He's worked out a RIU special too!

Ok My Hommies This Is The Deal.From Today At 4pm Till Sunday 4pm These GreenGator Filters Will Be On Sale For $99.00 USD. The Clocks Ticking.
http://greengatorfilters.com/
 

daveroller

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D - and everybody else... Just trying to help spread the word. Check these out. Got it from the Dawg's thread. They are tight! He's worked out a RIU special too!

Ok My Hommies This Is The Deal.From Today At 4pm Till Sunday 4pm These GreenGator Filters Will Be On Sale For $99.00 USD. The Clocks Ticking.
http://greengatorfilters.com/

Thanks, bro. I wish I could use one, but I don't have an inline fan to attach it to. My exhaust fan is just a ceiling fan that's sitting on the top shelf of my cabinet. You aren't the only one with a Beverly Hillbillies setup! ha ha.
 

greatbranch

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Thanks, bro. I wish I could use one, but I don't have an inline fan to attach it to. My exhaust fan is just a ceiling fan that's sitting on the top shelf of my cabinet. You aren't the only one with a Beverly Hillbillies setup! ha ha.
I don't know where you are as far as neighbors and such, but you might want to watch it when the weather gets warmer. You are going to be growing some DANK stuff, and it is going to tell on you depending on your neighbors proximity. It's usually REALLY bad for a couple weeks in flower. I fully expect you go have way danker stuff than me and more of it. Just be sure you are careful. These things don't have to be hung either. You can just plop it in the floor in the corner and run a duct to a fan. They are also not heavy. Boy, you'd think I was a sales rep, huh? Just lookin' out! You sure? More airflow = more CO2 = bigger buds...reduced chance of mold...it's a win, win...:mrgreen:

Seriously, though. Get someone you can trust to sniff around for you in the summer when things are at their dankest on a humid day (assuming you have them in Oz :bigjoint:). Fortunately, I have a cool neighbor that said something to me. Right before he asked if I knew where he could get some...lmao.
 

daveroller

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I don't know where you are as far as neighbors and such, but you might want to watch it when the weather gets warmer. You are going to be growing some DANK stuff, and it is going to tell on you depending on your neighbors proximity. It's usually REALLY bad for a couple weeks in flower. I fully expect you go have way danker stuff than me and more of it. Just be sure you are careful. These things don't have to be hung either. You can just plop it in the floor in the corner and run a duct to a fan. They are also not heavy. Boy, you'd think I was a sales rep, huh? Just lookin' out! You sure? More airflow = more CO2 = bigger buds...reduced chance of mold...it's a win, win...:mrgreen:

Seriously, though. Get someone you can trust to sniff around for you in the summer when things are at their dankest on a humid day (assuming you have them in Oz :bigjoint:). Fortunately, I have a cool neighbor that said something to me. Right before he asked if I knew where he could get some...lmao.

I only have one neighbor whose house is close to mine and they've never mentioned anything about the smell. And a friend visits us once a week and she only warns me when the INSIDE of the house smells like skunk. She's never smelled it outside. Anyway, thanks for the warning. I'd need to buy an inline fan at the same time if I bought this filter, but that's too much money and a lot of work. Hmmm... I'll think about it. We do have some summer days without any wind occasionally. But we also have skunks in our neighborhood sometimes, so that smell could be blamed on them. Hmmm...
 

greatbranch

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I only have one neighbor whose house is close to mine and they've never mentioned anything about the smell. And a friend visits us once a week and she only warns me when the INSIDE of the house smells like skunk. She's never smelled it outside. Anyway, thanks for the warning. I'd need to buy an inline fan at the same time if I bought this filter, but that's too much money and a lot of work. Hmmm... I'll think about it. We do have some summer days without any wind occasionally. But we also have skunks in our neighborhood sometimes, so that smell could be blamed on them. Hmmm...
well....you make me one of those nifty buckets and res sets on wheels and maybe we can work out something ;-)
 

daveroller

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well....you make me one of those nifty buckets and res sets on wheels and maybe we can work out something ;-)
I'd like to, but I think I'm gonna be busy this Spring raising the "ceiling" of my cabinet. I want to remove the top shelf and put the fan up on the top of the cabinet. That would give my plants another foot to grow vertically. For an able-bodied person that wouldn't be too hard, but it's a little tricky for me to work on something up that high since I can't stand up without using a standing frame.

Yeah, I had to use some special tools to cut that board and the sheet metal and it took some time. But if I make a new version, I can give you the one I'm using now.
 

greatbranch

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I'd like to, but I think I'm gonna be busy this Spring raising the "ceiling" of my cabinet. I want to remove the top shelf and put the fan up on the top of the cabinet. That would give my plants another foot to grow vertically. For an able-bodied person that wouldn't be too hard, but it's a little tricky for me to work on something up that high since I can't stand up without using a standing frame.

Yeah, I had to use some special tools to cut that board and the sheet metal and it took some time. But if I make a new version, I can give you the one I'm using now.
The fan can be mounted low too...just run the duct and mount it...even low. Mine doesn't vent outward at the moment (fresh air is not a problem) but recirculates into the room from the tent. I think it will be very easy to hang this model of filter high for you (no harder than your panel, anyway...easiest can support I have seen) for best funky air pull, but you can have the fan and ducting exit low.

I noticed the distance of the plants from the A-51 is crucial. Paying CLOSE attention! I get how difficult working up high is for you. Hanging my filter was hard for me! It is hard to get help with our "situation". I have a discreet contractor buddy who will be helping me make my situation more aesthetically pleasing and permanent/hidden. Seems the hobby is here to stay bongsmilie
 

daveroller

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The fan can be mounted low too...just run the duct and mount it...even low. Mine doesn't vent outward at the moment (fresh air is not a problem) but recirculates into the room from the tent. I think it will be very easy to hang this model of filter high for you (no harder than your panel, anyway...easiest can support I have seen) for best funky air pull, but you can have the fan and ducting exit low.

I noticed the distance of the plants from the A-51 is crucial. Paying CLOSE attention! I get how difficult working up high is for you. Hanging my filter was hard for me! It is hard to get help with our "situation". I have a discreet contractor buddy who will be helping me make my situation more aesthetically pleasing and permanent/hidden. Seems the hobby is here to stay bongsmilie

Okay, you talked me into it. It'll make my operation more stealthy. And it might be much easier to install an inline fan, possibly inside my cabinet, when I raise up the ceiling this Spring. I'm not happy to spend more money, but I don't want the police knocking on my door either.
 

daveroller

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How is that lady of yours looking?

I'll post an update tonight. Flushing the roots right now before I change the res water.

Some of the upper leaves are getting white-ish, probably from being too close to the lights. I'm gonna lower the plant, which means taking the wheels off. :sad: I'm going to miss those! I'll pinch off some of those ugly upper leaves to let some light get through.
 
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