The change is now

[Beagler]

it's kind of silly to pay a penalty when you can pay for health..with a penalty you get nothing..your dollar will go a lot farther purchasing an inexpensive policy.

A 90 dollar penalty is way easier on the wallet than the premiums.
One can also just sign up after severe illness or accident with no pre-existing limitations if one needs to.

 

[beenthere]

The penalty is like $500 a year, to get healthcare you have to pay your deductible first, which is like $5,000 a year for many poor people, plus the premium of another $6,000 or so per year.

Hope they are using $11,000 of healthcare per year, otherwise they are on the losing end.

I think it would be cheaper to pay the fine, not get sick or hurt, and pocket that money.

44% of all Americans have less than $6,000 in savings.

56% have sub prime credit

nearly half of all Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

http://business.time.com/2014/01/30/nearly-half-of-america-lives-paycheck-to-paycheck/

And the fact that they will be responsible for 40% of their medical bill.

Just a $50k hospital bill will cost the Obamacare patient more than $33,000

 

[Beagler]

And the fact that they will be responsible for 40% of their medical bill.

Just a $50k hospital bill will cost the Obamacare patient more than $33,000

Yes, but it is called the "AFFORDABLE" Care Act...and...

you can keep your doctor...period...
you can keep your plan...period...

Oh well, more BS and lies from a politician

 

[ChesusRice]

Yes, but it is called the "AFFORDABLE" Care Act...and...

you can keep your doctor...period...
you can keep your plan...period...

Oh well, more BS and lies from a politician

I kept my plan and my doctor as did the large majority of citizens in the USA
Hell millions even got coverage that they didnt have before

 

[tokeprep]

Obama has Line item Veto Power?

You asked how Romneycare was different. The answer is that it wasn't his plan. He found some parts so objectionable that he vetoed them.

 

[beenthere]

I kept my plan and my doctor as did the large majority of citizens in the USA
Hell millions even got coverage that they didnt have before

The millions of newly covered Americans will waste their money on plans that have high deductibles, high co-pays and will be in financial ruin if they have a major illness or injury. All for a political agenda.

Thanks Obama.

 

[ChesusRice]

The millions of newly covered Americans will waste their money on plans that have high deductibles, high co-pays and will be in financial ruin if they have a major illness or injury. All for a political agenda.

Thanks Obama.

Your RIght wing politicians disagree with you
Thanks for carrying the torch they no longer bear

 

[Red1966]

Many will choose pay a small penalty instead of signing up.

Tax.........Per SCOTUS when they officially convicted Obama of lying to us.

 

[Beagler]

I kept my plan and my doctor as did the large majority of citizens in the USA
Hell millions even got coverage that they didnt have before

I'm still good as my wife carries health care through her employer.

Next year will be our time to wait and see.
Intersting the deadline was postponed by Obama's pen to occur after the election cycle, nope, nothing to hide there. ... . . .period...

 

[Red1966]

And the ACA is different from Romneycare how?

Irrelevant.

 

[Red1966]

You don't pay attention and follow up. I have posted the video. That is not what Nancy P. said. She said that after all the negative attention, WE can read it for ourselves after it is passed. WHEN IT IS PASSED AS A LAW, THEN IT IS REAL. That was all that was said, and I posted the video, and it was Fox News the de-re-screwed it, that very day, and you swallowed their lie. So, here we face facts or are made to.

We can can read it after WE pass it.

 

[Beagler]

Tax.........Per SCOTUS when they officially convicted Obama of lying to us.

Yes indeed, it was aot a tax, until that was how it lived. period . period . period .

Gotta love the most transparent admin in history

 

[Red1966]

Obama has Line item Veto Power?

He's suspended the employer mandate, delayed the statute's deadlines. and others. So he either has line item veto (he doesn't) or he is in violation of the law.

 

[Red1966]

It's too bad Congressman dont have any staff that does this for them

Two hours to read 20,000 pages?

 

[beenthere]

Your RIght wing politicians disagree with you
Thanks for carrying the torch they no longer bear

You're already admitted the fact Obamacare will cost millions of poor people money, they can't afford.
But you still come out with the same left wing marching orders.
I find that hypocritical, but then again, you're on a pot forum, yet you're a prohibitionist, you are one confused dude.

 

[Red1966]

here! here!..well played my friend

Really, cheering nonsense? Oh yeah. right.

 

[ChesusRice]

Two hours to read 20,000 pages?

Just 2 hours?

Really?
Care to back that up?

 

[Red1966]

I kept my plan and my doctor as did the large majority of citizens in the USA Hell millions even got coverage that they didnt have before

2,2 million, if they pay up. HHS refuses to say how many have paid. 5.5 million lost their insurance. You will, too. When the illegal suspension of the employer mandate ends. You'll be screaming bloody murder then. People have already started dying because they have lost their insurance.

 

[Red1966]

Just 2 hours? Really? Care to back that up?

Tell us your counter theory and back it up. I'm not here to do your research for you.

 

[UncleBuck]

Tell us your counter theory and back it up. I'm not here to do your research for you.

that's not how it works, smarty.

you made an assertion and now you get to cite it or be called a liar liar pants on erm....well...you get the idea.