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kona gold

kona gold

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kindnug said:
Tres Dawg is a 3x backcross of chemdawg done by Topdawg
Appalachia is a special keeper male of the Green crack clone x Tres Dawg keeper male.
I don't know if he kept any of the females from the cross.

I don't really know much about Snow lotus.
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Thanks for the info!
 
kona gold

kona gold

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Clankie said:
*seconded*

NL is a classic breeding tool because you can find plants suitable to a wide variety of growing styles or preferences, I am also looking to find a male to play around with my own NL/Skunk or NL/Haze concepts, or more. Fun stuff for those of us who are into the breeding side of things, or are tired of everything in the US being a chem or og incross of some kind or another.
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Hey Clankie......i understand your points....but northern lights #5 is supposed to be an established variety, and consistent. Not been known as a diverse strain. So when i read his description, it seemed like there is nothing locked down before the open polllenation at the f-3. Also f-3 is the generation which will usually show the most variation(good n bad), so why do an open pollenation at that level? Again i understand the diversity idea he is going for, but it seems like there will be much to sort through to find good breeding material. Of course some will turn out spectacual, but many will not be that great also.

Also, by the description, it seems like he used multiple males and females for this selection. Not one choice female and multiple males, but not positive..

Why not just get a pack or two from bcsc and do it ourselves?
 
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kindnug

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I doubt there will be many bad variations of the NL strain.
Most NL I've smoked has had an evergreen/incense flavor.

The way he describes it reminds me of the #5 I smoked a few years ago(~6yr).

It's harder to find a special pheno. in a strain that is close to an IBL.
You will know what to expect, but it will be harder to find anything special.*or better than normal*
 
heelzballer

heelzballer

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So far I've only gotten one vague smoke report from the harlequin I just pulled...I can't smoke right now with my legal job, so had a buddy let me know. He said he took two tokes off a joint last night of the harlequin and said the high was kinda of like a commerical buzz, and that he didn't see the high quality medicinal benefits of the supposed cbd in this strain. He will try again, and also another will try it too. But was disappointed with his summation. I am letting the rest of the plant go another week or two, so perhaps the cbd wasn't expressed enough because of the clear trich's...We'll see I guess---kinda bummed.
 
Clankie

Clankie

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kona gold said:
Hey Clankie......i understand your points....but northern lights #5 is supposed to be an established variety, and consistent. Not been known as a diverse strain. So when i read his description, it seemed like there is nothing locked down before the open polllenation at the f-3. Also f-3 is the generation which will usually show the most variation(good n bad), so why do an open pollenation at that level? Again i understand the diversity idea he is going for, but it seems like there will be much to sort through to find good breeding material. Of course some will turn out spectacual, but many will not be that great also.

Also, by the description, it seems like he used multiple males and females for this selection. Not one choice female and multiple males, but not positive..

Why not just get a pack or two from bcsc and do it ourselves?
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OK, first off an open pollination means he used multiple males and females from his F2 generation.

Secondly, you should totally buy some BCSC Northern Lights I hear they have a great website. B got his back when BCSC was actually worthwhile back in '95 or '96.

Thirdly, the original NL#5 was a clone, hence the #5, and so the original seed releases were crosses between a male in the stock of the seed company and the original #5 clone (supposedly) and then either bx'd or not to the NL#5 clone. BCSC's NL#5 was in no way an actual true breeding 7+ generation IBL when they came on the scene. I've grown maybe 20-24 females of NL#5 and NL#1 varieties from different seed companies or from clone over the past decade, and there's always been at least two phenotypes and two chemotypes in every NL seed grow I've done. Pole plants and christmas trees; and usually piney/menthol and then depending on the breeder either citrus or incense. It's not like you're going to run them and come up with a 14 week 4x stretch haze, but my direct experience with Northern Lights has been that the ones with more afghani influence, i.e. the shorter and faster finishing varieties, tend to be lower yielding and have a more one dimensional stone; consequently while they might be better suited to SOG growers or people growing purely for speed, I prefer ones that are bigger and a little take a little longer in exchange for a heftier per plant yield and a more blueberry-like high.

I've never worked with Peak Seeds NL, but it is also worked out from the original mid nineties BCSC Northern Lights #5; and I've heard it is one of if not the best NL representations on the market.

Lastly, have you done a lot of f2 and f3 crosses? I've always found that in order for an f3 generation to have more variation than an f2 you have to intentionally breed it into the f3, and if you have more undesirable phenotypes in your f3 than f2 that means that you had a problem with your selection for parents. I have a good deal of confidence in B's ability to select desirable parents, more than in any other breeder working today.
 
kona gold

kona gold

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Clankie said:
OK, first off an open pollination means he used multiple males and females from his F2 generation.

Secondly, you should totally buy some BCSC Northern Lights I hear they have a great website. B got his back when BCSC was actually worthwhile back in '95 or '96.

Thirdly, the original NL#5 was a clone, hence the #5, and so the original seed releases were crosses between a male in the stock of the seed company and the original #5 clone (supposedly) and then either bx'd or not to the NL#5 clone. BCSC's NL#5 was in no way an actual true breeding 7+ generation IBL when they came on the scene. I've grown maybe 20-24 females of NL#5 and NL#1 varieties from different seed companies or from clone over the past decade, and there's always been at least two phenotypes and two chemotypes in every NL seed grow I've done. Pole plants and christmas trees; and usually piney/menthol and then depending on the breeder either citrus or incense. It's not like you're going to run them and come up with a 14 week 4x stretch haze, but my direct experience with Northern Lights has been that the ones with more afghani influence, i.e. the shorter and faster finishing varieties, tend to be lower yielding and have a more one dimensional stone; consequently while they might be better suited to SOG growers or people growing purely for speed, I prefer ones that are bigger and a little take a little longer in exchange for a heftier per plant yield and a more blueberry-like high.

I've never worked with Peak Seeds NL, but it is also worked out from the original mid nineties BCSC Northern Lights #5; and I've heard it is one of if not the best NL representations on the market.

Lastly, have you done a lot of f2 and f3 crosses? I've always found that in order for an f3 generation to have more variation than an f2 you have to intentionally breed it into the f3, and if you have more undesirable phenotypes in your f3 than f2 that means that you had a problem with your selection for parents. I have a good deal of confidence in B's ability to select desirable parents, more than in any other breeder working today.
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I grew the same northern lights from bcsc back then as well through emery seeds. It is(was) a great one. I never had a sativa dominant one, mine was the super healthy fast growing desnsly branched christmas tree shaped indica, that was true to the original description of northern lights. Its high was multi dimensional; as it was happy,uplifting,positive,relaxing,comforting effect. The smell was pungent,shunky,slightly grape/berry, with the flavor being similar to the smell, with added sour cream n oinon n pineynness.

Now that is also similar to some northern lights i smoked from humbolt about 5 or so years earlier.

I think that grape incense comes from the sensi seeds variety of northern lights, as i have gottten that in their jack herer.

Now on f-2 n f-3......the f-2 is the full compliment of expression the variety has(f-1 being great for a combination of the two parents and excellent vigor,great for cloning), then after you select your f-2's then the f-3 is needed to further weed out recessive traits and still has much variation expressed. Then through haed core selection in the f-3, desirable traits start getting a higher percentage in the offspring......then this process can get repeated till your content with the results. For me....i like to "try" to breed till the seeds come up uniform, like clones, then its pretty much stable, and will male excellen breeding material in future projects, as it will impart hybrid vigor and consistency to your next cross.

I am confident in Bodhi as well, and love his creations, but i was more wondering if there was more info on his decision and direction,then the paragraph i read on seedsman.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Placed my hn order

nl5
nibiru
ssdd
hopefully lotus larry or pagota if in stock
but if not strange brew

praying to the seed gods for a pack of
blue lotus as freebie ;)
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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Sounds like a great order.

I'm waiting. I just ordered beans. I figure in a month there will he a Bodhi promotion for ac/dc x heriquein, at least that is what I saw posted elsewhere. Figure some of the deadly g may be stocked then, if not there are still strains to grab.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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heelzballer said:
So far I've only gotten one vague smoke report from the harlequin I just pulled...I can't smoke right now with my legal job, so had a buddy let me know. He said he took two tokes off a joint last night of the harlequin and said the high was kinda of like a commerical buzz, and that he didn't see the high quality medicinal benefits of the supposed cbd in this strain. He will try again, and also another will try it too. But was disappointed with his summation. I am letting the rest of the plant go another week or two, so perhaps the cbd wasn't expressed enough because of the clear trich's...We'll see I guess---kinda bummed.
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It is supposed to not have much of a buzz, it is aimed at newb medicinal users that don't want a strong high but max medical benefits for a mellow stone. Not going to impress any stoners out there. I have heard about a high cbd low thc type that also doesn't make you high, aptly named 'Hippie's Disappointment'. So it is a type aimed at a small niche of people really.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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RedCarpetMatches said:
hn is horrible narking
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Get over yourself! Bodhi has mentioned Holistic Nursery as a place to get his beans. The place itself has an instagram account and a website. No need to act like its a secret when people want access to Bodhi gear. Besides, where the fuck do you think you found out about this place? Be kind and help fellow interested Bodhi growers. Grow up.
 
brek

brek

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TonightYou said:
Get over yourself! Bodhi has mentioned Holistic Nursery as a place to get his beans. The place itself has an instagram account and a website. No need to act like its a secret when people want access to Bodhi gear. Besides, where the fuck do you think you found out about this place? Be kind and help fellow interested Bodhi growers. Grow up.
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