Random Jibber Jabber Thread

curious2garden

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Well well that was an interesting trip to my physicians. As usual we sit around and jibber like old home week. She's anesthesia but there are surgeons floating by and many stop to say hi.

Turns out I have pneumonia in both lungs LOL but a handy aminoglycoside will fix that. Anyway we spent most of our time discussing Hoffman's death, Obamacare and the current state of health care.

Suffice to say most physicians wouldn't trust you guys giving yourselves aspirins LOL! The nanny state is safe. Sativex is being discussed and being positioned as maintenance for pot addiction. So the news is all good.
 

joe macclennan

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If that's 420 doing the jiggling, I'm impressed.





The problem is the interim. When all of those junkies and tweakers are running rampant. Will there be an "equalizing" law, so that the problem with a spike in violent crime (no matter how tempered and short lasting) can be countered -- with NO repercussions?
you sound like there will be some tweeker zombie apocalypse or something. I doubt it will be quite like this. You have admitted to trying many different substances. Were you running rampant looting and pillaging the community when you were blasted?

very good article++++ to you sir :)
 

joe macclennan

Well-Known Member
Well well that was an interesting trip to my physicians. As usual we sit around and jibber like old home week. She's anesthesia but there are surgeons floating by and many stop to say hi.

Turns out I have pneumonia in both lungs LOL but a handy aminoglycoside will fix that. Anyway we spent most of our time discussing Hoffman's death, Obamacare and the current state of health care.

Suffice to say most physicians wouldn't trust you guys giving yourselves aspirins LOL! The nanny state is safe. Sativex is being discussed and being positioned as maintenance for pot addiction. So the news is all good.
pneumonia? yuck :(

pot addiction lol...pretty scary thought really.

it'll be interesting to see where the fed goes with this over the next decade with states going fully legal on one side, and big pharma pushing their agenda on the other. I'm guessing the black market will remain very strong for years to come.
 

kinetic

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pneumonia? yuck :(

pot addiction lol...pretty scary thought really.

it'll be interesting to see where the fed goes with this over the next decade with states going fully legal on one side, and big pharma pushing their agenda on the other. I'm guessing the black market will remain very strong for years to come.
NY finally figured out where they are going to acquire their Cannabis for the next years medical trials. G13 anyone? Federally grown out of the University of Mississippi.
Elvy Musikka seems to get relief from her supply. I wonder what the going rate for the Gub'net Ganja is going to be paid for by the hospitals? Freedom of Information act on the invoice anyone? lol
 

curious2garden

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pneumonia? yuck :(

pot addiction lol...pretty scary thought really.

it'll be interesting to see where the fed goes with this over the next decade with states going fully legal on one side, and big pharma pushing their agenda on the other. I'm guessing the black market will remain very strong for years to come.
Thanks Joe. That's the entire point of prohibition, it makes a certain set of people VERY wealthy. It's so sad to see that most people don't get it.

I remember a time when there was much less of a nanny state. There are certain drugs that would be controlled but for public health the question is will the drug harm more than the person who misuses it. For antibiotics and nuclear meds and a few others the answer is a resounding yes and those should be restricted to sale only by physician.

But everything else should not be restricted to physician only. Adults should be allowed to act like adults. Anyway I'm done with talking about Prohibition and public health policy outside of the appropriate arena.

G'night all!
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
and that is why the dsm should not be shared with the masses, le sigh.

The sheer hubris of thinking prohibition on cannabis is bad but prohibition on something else is good tells me precisely why we won't make kardashev 1.

Let me see if i can explain this. If you tell an adolescent child, still thinking in mostly in concrete operations, they can't have something what do they do? Right!! That's a lot of my point.

One more try how did prohibition on alcohol work? Remember the vollstead act?

Prohibition is a failed public health concept. Addiction is a public health issue not a criminal one. Criminal acts from whatever causal factor belong in the legal system but not the simple act of addiction. We need to stop creating new prison classes or else when they come for you you will stand alone!

This is artificial class creation for the money makers and no one seems to see beyond their own personal issues and that is what *they* are counting upon.

For anyone that doesn't believe this. I beg you to read this, "three felonies a day: How the feds target the innocent" by harvey silverglate an activist, federal bar enrolled, constitutional scholar. This isn't annie being a wingnut folks this is how they are rolling all of us up.

I care kinetic, that's the problem, i care about the humans and their condition. I am cursed. I am cassandra.

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minnesmoker

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you sound like there will be some tweeker zombie apocalypse or something. I doubt it will be quite like this. You have admitted to trying many different substances. Were you running rampant looting and pillaging the community when you were blasted?
I don't think it'll be large scale. I think there will be an increase, because even at reasonable prices, you have to have a job to keep the habit going.

I think my drug experience is quite limited. I've smoked copious amounts of marijuana, I've taken mushrooms, and made extracts for micro dosing, I've chewed peyote, and I've drank peyote tea. I've taken LSD, and after much research I've micro-dosed 2C-I and DOC. I didn't wind up trying the Datura or nightshade. I had a very long discussion with CN and another with Annie. I thought I posted that here. Maybe that's when I drifted off. Because of the risks, and likely lack of benefit (they'd react like a massive dose of Benadryl, psychotic hallucinations.) I believe that LSD has a place in society, as does MDMA, DMT, mushrooms, peyote. I believe that PCP, although similar in affect should not be grouped with those -- it's rather common triggering of PCP rages.

Given the arguments put forth, and with the caveat that persons under the influence who become violent may be handled with lethal force, I agree. Make them all legal. Don't make them "good" though. And, don't promote them. Let heroin spread by word of mouth elsewhere.

I don't see a great spike in use, either. Maybe for a bit, as the herd thins, but not really. I foresee an increase in violence coming with an increase in availability, and a check on purity.
 

joe macclennan

Well-Known Member
Thanks Joe. That's the entire point of prohibition, it makes a certain set of people VERY wealthy. It's so sad to see that most people don't get it.

I remember a time when there was much less of a nanny state. There are certain drugs that would be controlled but for public health the question is will the drug harm more than the person who misuses it. For antibiotics and nuclear meds and a few others the answer is a resounding yes and those should be restricted to sale only by physician.

But everything else should not be restricted to physician only. Adults should be allowed to act like adults. Anyway I'm done with talking about Prohibition and public health policy outside of the appropriate arena.

G'night all!
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I don't think it'll be large scale. I think there will be an increase, because even at reasonable prices, you have to have a job to keep the habit going.

I think my drug experience is quite limited. I've smoked copious amounts of marijuana, I've taken mushrooms, and made extracts for micro dosing, I've chewed peyote, and I've drank peyote tea. I've taken LSD, and after much research I've micro-dosed 2C-I and DOC. I didn't wind up trying the Datura or nightshade. I had a very long discussion with CN and another with Annie. I thought I posted that here. Maybe that's when I drifted off. Because of the risks, and likely lack of benefit (they'd react like a massive dose of Benadryl, psychotic hallucinations.) I believe that LSD has a place in society, as does MDMA, DMT, mushrooms, peyote. I believe that PCP, although similar in affect should not be grouped with those -- it's rather common triggering of PCP rages.

Given the arguments put forth, and with the caveat that persons under the influence who become violent may be handled with lethal force, I agree. Make them all legal. Don't make them "good" though. And, don't promote them. Let heroin spread by word of mouth elsewhere.

I don't see a great spike in use, either. Maybe for a bit, as the herd thins, but not really. I foresee an increase in violence coming with an increase in availability, and a check on purity.
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Damn it is dead tonight.

Get well soon C2G!!!
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I want the frickin' "likes" back!
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glad to see ya potpimp. New job treating you well brother? Hope you're bringing home fat stacks of cash :) :)
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
Hey Joe! The job... well... I'll be there a little longer, then it's off to greener pastures. I'm calling my daughter tonight about a job in Colorado. She knows a grower there that has an opening.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
my thought on the subject is as follows..
the people who want to do hard drugs do so.. the fact that it's illegal doesn't mean thing one.. i look at it like this.. cannabis is illegal, but plenty of us here still partake in it.. being illegal never stopped one person from trying it.
now, if cannabis is illegal, which it is, and people use it, why don't these same people who are willing to break the law to smoke bud, also break the law to do drugs like crack and heroin? i think it's the fact that they've seen or heard what these drugs do to people, and have no interest in doing them is why..
if crack and heroin would become legal tomorrow, not one person imvho who has never tried it before and thinks it's an evil, horrible drug, is going to run out and try it now just because it's simply legal.. i can't see my mom, who does't even like to take an asprin, run to cvs and buy some heroin just because she can..

drugs are always going to be there, and the people who want to do and try them will, legal or not, and those who don't, won't, also, legal or not..

my $.o2
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
my thought on the subject is as follows..
the people who want to do hard drugs do so.. the fact that it's illegal doesn't mean thing one.. i look at it like this.. cannabis is illegal, but plenty of us here still partake in it.. being illegal never stopped one person from trying it.
now, if cannabis is illegal, which it is, and people use it, why don't these same people who are willing to break the law to smoke bud, also break the law to do drugs like crack and heroin? i think it's the fact that they've seen or heard what these drugs do to people, and have no interest in doing them is why..
if crack and heroin would become legal tomorrow, not one person imvho who has never tried it before and thinks it's an evil, horrible drug, is going to run out and try it now just because it's simply legal.. i can't see my mom, who does't even like to take an asprin, run to cvs and buy some heroin just because she can..

drugs are always going to be there, and the people who want to do and try them will, legal or not, and those who don't, won't, also, legal or not..

my $.o2
This is why i don't much care for the "my drug good; your drug bad" rhetoric. Divide et impera.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
This is why i don't much care for the "my drug good; your drug bad" rhetoric. Divide et impera.
that's also my whole contention with mmj. it seems now that mmj "patients" like to call their marijuana medicine, while i'm doing drugs for doing the same thing they're doing, and probably for a lot of the same reasons..
the whole, i'm a patient, not a criminal screams to me that i'm a criminal for doing the very same thing they're doing..
 
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