ISO Contains Other Stuff, Why use it?

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I see so many people go around suggesting people to use ISO as it's safe, but how are you guys just spreading what you heard or just ignoring the fact it contains two other chemicals?
Although I know one, but I think both of them have been reported fine to inhale, how is a pesticide and bittering agent ever good to add to your hash?
This i probably adds to the fact that some peoples ISO hasn't tasted very well, idk all mine specifically but I'm trying to avoid it for my next batch.

Two added substances sucrose octaacetate (325mg/ per100mL) and denatonium benzoate (1.4mg/100mL)


http://www.drugfuture.com/Pharmacopoeia/USP35/data/v35300/usp35nf30s0_m1270.html

http://www.livestrong.com/article/155021-what-toxic-chemicals-are-in-rubbing-alcohol/

I think Everclear is the only really safe solvent if my research is right, not sure about Ethanol because where would I get it truly pure? EC is much easier for me.

Also, most people who've tried is, will make ISO batches often, so smoking this for a long time probably hasn't even been studied ;)
 
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racerboy71

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just curious as to where you're getting this info from m8?

when i look up the active ingredients for 99% iso, i got the following..

ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL 99% Print E-mail
isopropyl-alcohol-99-32ozsmall.pngDisinfectant

Click here for MSDS

Active Ingredients:

Isopropyl alcohol 99%

Inert Ingredient:
Water 1%
Total 100%

Indications:

An external solution for use as a topical antiseptic.

Dosage and Administration:

Scrub hands and arms with soap and water, rinse with water, then scrub with the alcohol solution for disinfecting. May also be used for the temporary relief of minor muscular aches or pain due to overexertion and fatigue. Apply full strength to the affected area, wet thoroughly and massage briskly to stimulate circulation.

Precautions:

Store at a controlled room temperature between 15° and 30°C (59°-86°F).

Cautions:

For external use only. If taken internally, serious gastric disturbance will result. Avoid contact with the eyes. In case of eye contact, flush thoroughly with water. Call a physician. First Aid: Induce vomiting or use a stomach pump. Flammable: Do not use near heat or an open flame.

FOR VETERINARY USE ONLY.
KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN.

Presentation:

32 oz containers

VEDCO - 11/10/98.1
 
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@Racer I posted some links from where I'm getting my information, and if you look into it at least with Google you will find a lot of information about how the USA require these additives in all isopropyl alcohol and Ethanol.

In the USA, rubbing alcohol, USP and all preparations coming under the classification of Rubbing Alcohols (defined as those containing ethanol) must be manufactured[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] in accordance with the requirements of the US Treasury Department, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, using Formula 23-H (8 parts by volume of acetone, 1.5 parts by volume of methyl isobutyl ketone, and 100 parts by volume of ethyl alcohol). It contains 87.5-91% by volume of absolute ethyl alcohol. The rest consists of water and the denaturants, with or without color additives, and perfume oils. Rubbing alcohol contains in each 100 mL not less than 355 mg of sucrose octaacetate or not less than 1.40 mg of denatonium benzoate. The preparation may be colored with one or more color additives. A suitable stabilizer may also be added.[SUP][4]

[/SUP]Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol

Yes wiki. But other it seems like a pretty known factor excluding the marijuana scene.


And yes I'm talking about Rubbing Alcohol, not lab grade iso.
 
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budbro18 said:
"like"

and agree with racer. its probably just the brand of iso you got or an old kind.

If you want the purest distill it yourself. after 2 or 3 times you get a pretty high alcohol percentage.
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You can also "salt it down", look into extracting rubbing alcohol.
 
qwizoking

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Yes but in America you can buy that rubbing alcohol or just 70 91 and 99% isopropanol
Rubbing is 50-70 and isn't the same thing at all its denatured. Do not use it
 
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qwizoking said:
Yes but in America you can buy that rubbing alcohol or just 70 91 and 99% isopropanol
Rubbing is 50-70 and isn't the same thing at all its denatured. Do not use it
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Well the bottles I buy says 99% isopropyl alcohol, and the regulation are that for products that contain every 100mL of ISOpropyl alcohol contains the additives listed in my original post (325mg+1.4mg), this is the point I'm trying to get across, nobody is going to get isopropyl alcohol in the USA without these additives unless they get a lab grade glass bottle of it.

I'm sure this isn't just USA either.
The add this stuff so people don't drink it, it's a law.
 
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qwizoking said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol
Yes. If its denatured it will say rubbing

Isopropanol or sometimes just isopropyl alcohol is perfectly clean, the production of is clean
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I have 70% ISO Rubbing Alcohol, and 70% isopropyl alcohol from walgreens, said to be for first aid.
I also have 91% ISopropyl from walgreens.

So just if the bottle doesn't say Rubbing Alcohol on it and just Iso makes them different? They both didn't say anything about these additives. But why would they add more to their product if they didn;t have to?..

I know what you're saying, but still I can't just ignore all the pages on google saying the exact same thing about the isopropyl alcohol regulations.

Lucky these chemicals are soluble in water so when I salt & purify the iso (if I use it) then some of it may be gone, or none depending on the reaction to the salt to the ph of the water, we'll see though..

Some people complain about their iso taste, and these chemicals are known to make for a more bland taste... I'm just brainstorming though.
 
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At most pharmacies there will be 70 and 91% that's clean and only iso. Next to it will be rubbing, usually only one is carried and most are green to prevent the confusion here. Its labeled pretty clearly. Also over 70% can irritate skin and isn't recommended topically but for cleaning. Its purpose is to evaporate quickly and leave no residue like for electronic chips and such.. so generally over 70% is clean iso and not denatured rubbing...
Why they do this I don't know?
 
Thundercat

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I havn't tasted QwizoKing's Qwiso yet, but I'm certain its cleaner then mine, and mine NEVER has any kind of weird taste. My QWISO tastes just like the material it came from. I use 91% ISO, that is labeled as being 91% ISO, 9%water and it works like a charm ever time. I think most peoples bad taste comes from doing to long of a wash, and getting more chlorophyll into the solution, and then cooking it so much all the flavor destroyed.
 
SomeGuy

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I agree TC. The stuff I have been making with 99% iso far beats the quality I got from bho. less yeild but top notch. OMG the concentrated bubba I made is like taking 2 muscle relaxers and a pain killer. night night...LOL
 
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Glad to hear it Someguy :). I wanna see a side by side with the same material, of a BHO run that gets winterized to remove the last of the waxes and lipids vs an ISO run. I bet the yield would actually be close. I think thats part of why it seems like BHO yeilds more cus it pulls heavier compounds out with the oils. Just a thought I've had a few times.
 
SomeGuy

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I could see that. I wont be blasting any more bho though so that experiment is not on me. I promised the wife no more messing with explosives. ISO is pretty safe in comparison... LOL You gonna make it out here on that trip TC?
 
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