• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Less Goverment More Freedom

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Less government, more liberty.

Imagine if people decided they had enough and hit squads were formed. A company poisons the water supply? Hit squad appears and starts eliminating the executives of the company by hanging them from street lights. Starts happening everywhere, government powerless to stop it, the public sees it as a necessary evil.

How long before companies started operating on the up and up?

Companies do what they do because the fines are often much less than the total saved or stolen. Look at the TBTF banks, they can fraud people out of $200 billion, yet only get fined $20 billion, a profit of $180 billion. To these companies, fines are just a cost of doing business, they pay the fines. The legal aspect is if they pay the fine, they will not be charged with a crime and will not have to admit any wrongdoing. This is done so that the US Citizen cannot easily make a lawsuit against these banks.

Until the people running the corporations are actually held accountable, nothing will change.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
First, no one said corporations are individuals, they said they are an association of individuals.
Humans are natural persons, corporations are legal persons. If corporations weren't persons, you could not sue/prosecute them and they could never sue anyone either.
Note that the USA is a corporation as is every state.

Only persons have to abide by laws.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Less government, more liberty.

Imagine if people decided they had enough and hit squads were formed. A company poisons the water supply? Hit squad appears and starts eliminating the executives of the company by hanging them from street lights. Starts happening everywhere, government powerless to stop it, the public sees it as a necessary evil.

How long before companies started operating on the up and up?

Companies do what they do because the fines are often much less than the total saved or stolen. Look at the TBTF banks, they can fraud people out of $200 billion, yet only get fined $20 billion, a profit of $180 billion. To these companies, fines are just a cost of doing business, they pay the fines. The legal aspect is if they pay the fine, they will not be charged with a crime and will not have to admit any wrongdoing. This is done so that the US Citizen cannot easily make a lawsuit against these banks.

Until the people running the corporations are actually held accountable, nothing will change.
getting shot by an angry mob because your company made a mistake, inadvertent or not, does not sit well with the constitution nor with my idea of freedom.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Less government, more liberty.

Imagine if people decided they had enough and hit squads were formed. A company poisons the water supply? Hit squad appears and starts eliminating the executives of the company by hanging them from street lights. .
Company responds By hiring blackwater or equivalent
passes the costs onto the consumer
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
getting shot by an angry mob because your company made a mistake, inadvertent or not, does not sit well with the constitution nor with my idea of freedom.
You are half right. Certainly shooting people should only be a defensive action. However "companies" , like governments are run by INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. Those individuals should not hide behind the shield of blame obscurity that their institutions provide.

The "I was just doing my job" excuse is one that removes responsibility and is the same one used by prohibitionists and rationalizers (sic) .

Companies and Governments don't make decisions, PEOPLE do. People should be held accountable. Your idea of freedom is more government and that is oxymoronic.
 
Top