Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

[homebrewer]

I understand what you mean about it's what to plants want, but since you have done this for some time with my type of plant (AK-47 at the moment) and I am not a seasoned vet could you tell me an average of how much bloom to grow or (foliage pro) you give throughout your flower cycle.

Do you end up cutting grow or (foliage pro) usually? How much week by week if you do?

Do you yourself taper it off or go up and then taper off etc? Or are you saying you yourself do the 50/50 mix throughout the entire cycle usually.

I will try different things with one tray but would much rather go with what has been done previously with your favorite results.

I understand the PPM's and how you don't want to go over certain numbers but I am used to charts where they can tell you what ratio to give of grow and when etc. So if you could clarify this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

If anyone else who has used Homebrewer's method of Dyna Gro with flood and drain blocks that has had great results would like to chime in I would greatly appreciate it as well.

Start flowering with a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom OR foliage pro and bloom. You can run that through the entire flowering cycle. If you want to get cute, run that 50/50 mix for AT LEAST the first couple weeks then shift to more bloom than grow/foliage pro. Try tapering to the point where you could be at 80/20 or 90/10 at harvest, just figure out what works best. Your feeding regimen is probably not the weak spot in your grows where a 'dialed in feeding schedule' is going to magically pump out a few more ounces come harvest. Good yields come from doing EVERYTHING correctly. You should have vigorously growing plants moving into a stable flowering environment where they'll be pinched, bent and trained for even better structure. Keep the bugs and mold away and be ready to tie up some snapping branches.

 

[chuck estevez]

Start flowering with a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom OR foliage pro and bloom. You can run that through the entire flowering cycle. If you want to get cute, run that 50/50 mix for AT LEAST the first couple weeks then shift to more bloom than grow/foliage pro. Try tapering to the point where you could be at 80/20 or 90/10 at harvest, just figure out what works best. Your feeding regimen is probably not the weak spot in your grows where a 'dialed in feeding schedule' is going to magically pump out a few more ounces come harvest. Good yields come from doing EVERYTHING correctly. You should have vigorously growing plants moving into a stable flowering environment where they'll be pinched, bent and trained for even better structure. Keep the bugs and mold away and be ready to tie up some snapping branches.

It is amazing the difference in a bud that finishes properly in a quality environment vs one that was stressed from nutes,bugs and/or mold.

 

[resetjenkins]

Start flowering with a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom OR foliage pro and bloom. You can run that through the entire flowering cycle. If you want to get cute, run that 50/50 mix for AT LEAST the first couple weeks then shift to more bloom than grow/foliage pro. Try tapering to the point where you could be at 80/20 or 90/10 at harvest, just figure out what works best. Your feeding regimen is probably not the weak spot in your grows where a 'dialed in feeding schedule' is going to magically pump out a few more ounces come harvest. Good yields come from doing EVERYTHING correctly. You should have vigorously growing plants moving into a stable flowering environment where they'll be pinched, bent and trained for even better structure. Keep the bugs and mold away and be ready to tie up some snapping branches.

I just thought if you didn't change from 50/50 they would have too much nitrogen in the end and suffer yield or something else. So I thought you may have tapered off yourself.

But thanks for answering. You know what your talking about A LOT more than the average so thought copy and paste might work well in this case.

I always pinch day of flip but have only bent or supercropped before flipping in the past? Do you pinch and bend during flower?

I am barley more than a newbie but have not had a problem with yield, But I do always have an issue with over excessive yellowing early and slight lack of resin production as well as smell. I used GH with the boosters they suggest accept for diamond nector.

I am excited to try and dial in the dynagro, spend less, and get better quality.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[homebrewer]

I just thought if you didn't change from 50/50 they would have too much nitrogen in the end and suffer yield or something else. So I thought you may have tapered off yourself.

But thanks for answering. You know what your talking about A LOT more than the average so thought copy and paste might work well in this case.

I always pinch day of flip but have only bent or supercropped before flipping in the past? Do you pinch and bend during flower?

I am barley more than a newbie but have not had a problem with yield, But I do always have an issue with over excessive yellowing early and slight lack of resin production as well as smell. I used GH with the boosters they suggest accept for diamond nector.

I am excited to try and dial in the dynagro, spend less, and get better quality.

Thanks again for the help.

Hells yeah I do! I'll even top my kali mist at 3-4 weeks into flower just so she doesn't put a hole in the ceiling. She's one vigorous mofo.

 

[resetjenkins]

Hells yeah I do! I'll even top my kali mist at 3-4 weeks into flower just so she doesn't put a hole in the ceiling. She's one vigorous mofo.

That's a trip. You cut the top nug off? I guess 3 weeks in it's pretty small still.
Would have never thought of that. I got drilled to never top after first day from somewhere.
I could see getting a lot more golf balls surrounding her then though.

 

[homebrewer]

That's a trip. You cut the top nug off? I guess 3 weeks in it's pretty small still.
Would have never thought of that. I got drilled to never top after first day from somewhere.
I could see getting a lot more golf balls surrounding her then though.

The practice is definitely strain-dependent. I can put kali mist into flower at 18" tall and she'll grow to 6 feet if I let her. She also flowers for around 100 days so topping her at week 4 gives her 70 days to recover and she's much more manageable when topped that way. I don't grow any other strains that could recover from being topped in flower without harming yields.

 

[resetjenkins]

The practice is definitely strain-dependent. I can put kali mist into flower at 18" tall and she'll grow to 6 feet if I let her. She also flowers for around 100 days so topping her at week 4 gives her 70 days to recover and she's much more manageable when topped that way. I don't grow any other strains that could recover from being topped in flower without harming yields.

I see what you mean in that case for sure with the Kali!

last couple questions here and sorry for the bombardment:

1) I couldn't tell if you prune your bottom branches during or before flower, do you?

I always have but find it a pain in the 4X4 tables to get in there in my crammed space.

2) When you supercrop during flower are you actually doing the stem snap around the outer sheathing and dropping it down or just bending the branch down without snap?



Thanks Again. I think you raised my experience level more in the last couple posts then my last couple years.

 

[homebrewer]

1) I couldn't tell if you prune your bottom branches during or before flower, do you?

I do both. Those branches don't produce much and they can often times be the first place bugs show up.

2) When you supercrop during flower are you actually doing the stem snap around the outer sheathing and dropping it down or just bending the branch down without snap?

I pinch the tops until I hear/feel a crunch and then I bend them over. It takes a few days to recover but by that time the lower branches have already become way more vigorous than before.

 

[j.ride]

Update: Day 12 of bloom, sticking with 1/3 pro-tekt and 2/3 grow. I wasn't seeing much flowering going on at day 8, but it's in full effect now.

I was just watering as I saw fit, usually soaking the top of the medium and then waiting until it dried a bit, which was basically everyday. A couple of days ago I realized that I never let any water run off and that there were probably dry spots on the bottom of the pots, not to mention possible salt build up. So I soaked 'em until I got runoff and probably went a little overboard as I had a small lagoon going in my room. I may look into getting some saucers. Watering until runoff was a lot more work, used a lot more water, and cleanup was a pain. But the plants loved it and grew even more vigorously. Not to mention the soil is still wet/moist so I got to take a couple of days off of watering.

I'm got a bunch of work coming up but I will try to post a few more times throughout the grow. Dyna-Gro might just have to add a new tagline: "Dyna-Gro... so easy a total newb can do it."

 

[joe macclennan]

what is the strain in the second pic jride?

 

[j.ride]

Golden goat. I'm not very knowledgeable about strains so I'm just in it for the ride this first time around. The leaves look like a sativa but that is probably the bushiest plant I have. I also have a blue diesel/sour diesel mix which is the first photo, FLO, blue dream and a couple of others going. BD/SD is stretching the most by far. All of these are from an unproven source so it's a crap shot. I figured I'd start with a bunch of random stuff and see what I like and what grows the best in the conditions I provide. I'm a sativa man myself so I can't wait to get a hold of some Kali Mist seeds that homebrewer keeps raving about.

 

[Party]

I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a feeding chart. *Or feeding advice* for Dyna-Gro grow.

-I found a few completely different feeding regiments and strange numbers per gallon 1tsp(4.92892ml) for two gallons and it seems a bit too high.

https://www.opengrow.com/topic/41746-dyna-gros-latest-feeding-chart/
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/dyna-gro-best-nutrients-available.16118/ ---- The nutrient chart is for flora products but the discussion is dyna-gro
http://www.dyna-gro.com/Website pdf Files/DG Hydroponic Feeding Chart.pdf - official suggested feedings

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a feeding chart. *Or feeding advice* for Dyna-Gro grow.

-I found a few completely different feeding regiments and strange numbers per gallon 1tsp(4.92892ml) for two gallons and it seems a bit too high.

https://www.opengrow.com/topic/41746-dyna-gros-latest-feeding-chart/
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/dyna-gro-best-nutrients-available.16118/ ---- The nutrient chart is for flora products but the discussion is dyna-gro
http://www.dyna-gro.com/Website pdf Files/DG Hydroponic Feeding Chart.pdf - official suggested feedings

Ignore those charts and just feed your plants what they need. Get an EC meter.

I feed .3-.6 in veg and can go as high as 1.8ec in flower.

 

[j.ride]

Quick update and more pictures! Day 25 of bloom, everything is still looking good. I think! Marching onward with Grow/Pro-Tekt.

One bud looks burned, the hairs are brown. I'm not sure what happened and it's not even the closest to the light. Any ideas? Other than that things are GREEN.

 

[joe macclennan]

4 weeks in? good job man! they look really good.

 

[homebrewer]

Quick update and more pictures! Day 25 of bloom, everything is still looking good. I think! Marching onward with Grow/Pro-Tekt.

One bud looks burned, the hairs are brown. I'm not sure what happened and it's not even the closest to the light. Any ideas? Other than that things are GREEN.

Very nice! Stay the course and you'll be VERY pleased come harvest.

 

[j.ride]

4 weeks in? good job man! they look really good.

Thank you! Being my first grow it's hard to know how things should look so I appreciate the encouragement.

Very nice! Stay the course and you'll be VERY pleased come harvest.

Many, many, thanks. My skeptical buddy is starting to warm up to Dyna-Gro. His latest comment is that the buds look small... but he then went on to admit that he usually has problems with density. His head has finally stopped spinning (or has at least slowed down a little) from when I told him I'm using the grow formula for the whole run. It's quite obvious now that the plants are green, healthy, budding, and that the world did not explode.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I will post some more pictures in a couple of weeks. Also, I cannot wait to use Dyna-Gro to fertilize my garden this spring. Here's a picture from the Colorado Home and Garden show where I spent some time last week. I'm pretty sure not one landscaper/nursery there had heard of Advanced Nutrients and they seemed to be doing just fine.

 

[joe macclennan]

I had to back off the grow for the final two weeks of flower. Down to about 30% grow70 bloom.

 

[homebrewer]

Thank you! Being my first grow it's hard to know how things should look so I appreciate the encouragement.



Many, many, thanks. My skeptical buddy is starting to warm up to Dyna-Gro. His latest comment is that the buds look small... but he then went on to admit that he usually has problems with density. His head has finally stopped spinning (or has at least slowed down a little) from when I told him I'm using the grow formula for the whole run. It's quite obvious now that the plants are green, healthy, budding, and that the world did not explode.

Grow is clearly working well for you. Sometimes when my plants are totally green top-to-bottom, I'll hit them with just plain water. This doesn't happen too often during a grow, maybe once or twice, but it's a good preventative for salt buildup.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I will post some more pictures in a couple of weeks. Also, I cannot wait to use Dyna-Gro to fertilize my garden this spring. Here's a picture from the Colorado Home and Garden show where I spent some time last week. I'm pretty sure not one landscaper/nursery there had heard of Advanced Nutrients and they seemed to be doing just fine.

Post away! DG is painfully easy to use and gives the best results I've ever seen, it's good to see others realizing that this isn't rocket science.

 

[homebrewer]

Many, many, thanks. My skeptical buddy is starting to warm up to Dyna-Gro. His latest comment is that the buds look small... but he then went on to admit that he usually has problems with density. His head has finally stopped spinning (or has at least slowed down a little) from when I told him I'm using the grow formula for the whole run. It's quite obvious now that the plants are green, healthy, budding, and that the world did not explode.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I will post some more pictures in a couple of weeks. Also, I cannot wait to use Dyna-Gro to fertilize my garden this spring. Here's a picture from the Colorado Home and Garden show where I spent some time last week. I'm pretty sure not one landscaper/nursery there had heard of Advanced Nutrients and they seemed to be doing just fine.

I wanted to comment on his 'observation' real quick. Higher N formulas during flower perform like The Little Engine That Could. You'll see steady growth until the day you chop. Stay the course and you'll see what I'm talking about. I can't wait to hear what your friend says .