Milliard tent setup

Dutchy018

Dutchy018

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So I've got a closet with a wall return vent that's perfect for an exaughst. In searching for a small tent, I came across a Milliard 30x18x36in

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H2ULDR0

Anyone have it? Just wondering if its practical to grow 2-3 indicas in a 3ft vertical space w/ minimal LST.

I'd also like to get some opinions on lighting if anyone feels like chipping in, I'm a fan of flouros however am open to suggestions. Given the size of the space, I was thinking something along the lines of this

http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FLCDG125D-Fluorowing-Compact-Fluorescent/dp/B001UV6P9I

And just have separate bulbs for veg/flower. I'll probably wind up getting a cheap inline fan off Amazon as well, the tent has acouple of passive intakes so I'm thinking one exhaust plus a small clip on fan should be sufficient? I'm looking for cheap and simple seeing as I have a $250 budget for the setup, any advice welcome.
 
Purpsdro420

Purpsdro420

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If I were you I wouldn't waste the money on that tent you can get the same size just taller. Maybe get one that 5-6 ft tall. That light won't get you much bud that light would be good for a week or two of veg then that's it. I would go with a 400 watt apollo off amazon with the cooltube. Then pull the reflector part out of the cooltube and use it as a vertical light. You will yeild a decent amount and height won't be as big of an issue. Just my opinion tho
 
Purpsdro420

Purpsdro420

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A tent like this I would say would be a better choice
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004USDTMO?cache=da04626f53818f0237b9b4bc8f7be366&pie=1#ref=mp_s_a_1_2&qid=1392224769&sr=8-2&pis=2852,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

With a light like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00547I5I8?cache=da04626f53818f0237b9b4bc8f7be366&pie=1#ref=mp_s_a_1_3&qid=1392224847&sr=8-3&pis=4952,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Dutchy018

Dutchy018

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Nice, however I'm more concerned with the electric bill, and an HPS compared to CFL is no contest. You say a week or two of veg, is there possibly a CFL alternative to the Apollo lighting system?

I also like the idea of mounting the light vertically, that would defiantly be ideal for height constraint. I kinda like the small Milliard tent, its cheap and somehow seems less conspicuous than a 5ft one, I can work with 3ft growing indicas.. its actually more like 2 1/2 ft considering the height of the carbon filter/fan combo I have picked out

http://www.amazon.com/VenTech-IF4CF412-Inline-Virgin-Charcoal/dp/B004Q2ER5C

But still with some LST, 2 1/2ft is doable with 2 plants especially with a vertically mounted light. I think I'm set except for the light, I'd really like to use CFL if there is a system comparable to the Apollo system. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
Lo Budget

Lo Budget

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I've got the 6" version of that combo. Good quality, IMO. You may want to consider a speed controller too. I recommend a variac. I got a cheepie and sent it straight back. It only had two speeds: Hum and full-blast. As for lights, it's hard to beat HID unless you go quality LED. I have seen some impressive CFL grows here, but HID is still the king.
 
fridayfishfry

fridayfishfry

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if you're going the cfl route instead of HID i would try t5 HO's. it would be good for a tent that size considering heat and electric plus you can put cool looking aquarium bulbs in it to get max par it actually works
 
AngryPlumber

AngryPlumber

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Dutchy018 said:
Nice, however I'm more concerned with the electric bill, and an HPS compared to CFL is no contest.
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That at is the reason you go with HPS, your electric bill running a single 400w won't be affected too much; it's cheaper than running a big flat screen TV.
 
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