F*ck my LIFE Mites ELIMINATED, now Powdery Mildew on my KLP WTF!

Hannibal Cannabinol

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Sigh.... SO I have some BBK plants and one KLP starting out week 7. The KLP has powdery mildew starting to creep onto the budsites around the sugar leaves in random spots and on the leaves here and there. I have been taking off infected leaves and spraying h2o2 and water every other day or so... Seems it burned my pistils a bit, oh well.. you can still smoke burnt pistils..
The BBK is unaffected by the mildew spores..(so far *knocks on wood) it seems the Key Lime Pie cut is susceptible to PM.. which I dont mind dealing with as it is a lovely strain. Grows vigorously and is nice and potent (pics upon request). I have saved a cut for a mother and will need to figure out a way to eliminate the PM within it before I go on talking cuttings from her and carrying on. I saved the BBK as well. will be picking one of the three cuts I have to keep as a mother for future BBK as well. Any thoughts suggestions? Should I pull the KLP early? It was an afterthought that I put on the outskirt of the grow(probably why the PM got going), but it produced nice dense frost covered lime scented nugs regardless and the bud to leaf ratio
is insane.. hardly any leaves (completely opposite of the BBK which is a leafy nightmare for a scrogger). Anyways.. Give me your thoughts.. I really wanted to let it go a full 9 weeks, but not if its gonna fuq up the other plants ....:wall:
 

justugh

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sir u confused the hell out of me ..........this is a sign i need sleep or i do not know guess it is sleep

ok mold .................u have mold in the tent on the buds .............remove that plant cut off all the uneffective buds and make BHO or Canna buter from it

as for the other buds in the system .........depending on how your air moves they could completely shot ...........mold spores get on them they do not need to do anything other then land on the plant and u smoke it ................personally i would remove the whole grow and restart it instead of risking hurting self or others ..............convert the stuff into BHO or canna butter (both of those methods will make it safe to use)

what is your humidty runing at for mold it has to be some where in the 60%s
 

sidewing

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treat your vegging plants with dm zone and penetrator/saturator. havent had any pm in years after treatment. need to do it when they are young and dip the whole cutting.
 

joe macclennan

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spraying anything liquid on close to mature flowers for pm is counterproductive imo.

sulfur burners work GREAT. and can be used up to the last week before harvest with no discernible difference in flavor or taste.
 

vostok

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yeah, because neem is soooo much safer right? http://www.essentialoils.co.za/neem-oil-precautions.htm
Precautions to take when using Neem oil
It should NOT be given internally to the weak, very young or the old and must be avoided by any pregnant women, or women trying to become pregnant ...will explain your impromptu bitching, however look further you may find
........A toxicological test in Germany, using clean Neem kernels resulted in no toxicity, even at a concentration of 5,000 mg per kg ...Neem Oil is a highly acquired taste ,,,go figure !
 

joe macclennan

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lol, who is bitching? I'm just putting up some useful info.

just saying, weak, very old, even pregnant? Sounds like many mmj patients to me.

but keep going about how safe it is. idc
 

sidewing

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i have to disagree. from experience. do not sulfer burn late or even mid flower. you can and will taste it. i was told the same thing years ago by the guy at the hydro shop and all my herb tasted like crap and hurt my throat. dont spray with neem. dont treat it period late in flower. its too late. PM is tricky and it ruins crops. the best thing to do is either chop early and CLEAN really really good before your next crop. (sulfur burn, clean with bleach etc) or keep it flowering and let the PM spread even more on the buds. when you take your cuttings dip them in dutchmaster zone and penetrator/saturator.. the plants will be stressed a little cuz its harsh stuff but you wont have PM anymore on the plants (you have to clean the enviroment to eliminate spores elseware). but it works. speaking from experience.
 

sidewing

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i made bubble hash from trimming that was sulfer burned late in flower and it bubbled and looked great but tasted unbelievably harsh when compared to the previous batch which was made with non-sulfured trim.
 

joe macclennan

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I would guess a lot has to do with light intensity and the amount of air circulation as to how fast the powdered sulfur dissipates.
 

Hannibal Cannabinol

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I must say, I posted this in two different forum and I got zero replies from the other one. Thanks guys! I think I may just chop early. I need to spread out the other plants anyhow as they are all cramped up under the 600 I have them under... The PM is not in advanced stages...I check my plants regularly and caught it quite early so I was able to start picking the affected leaves off etc.. but that was before it started getting into the buds.. Time for a visit from the bud reaper I guess.... I dont want it all up in my buds... and I just put this one into flower as an afterthought... it has quadrupled in size and is covered in dense nugs so I cant complain.

So, can I treat the cut I saved as a mother with some type of systemic fungicide? Will it clean up the infection? What do you recommend? I have NEVER had PM or mites until this run... I am in a different climate/state and there appears to be a bit of a learning curve involved that I was unaware of.. Well I am moving again after this run, so I will be using a different setup and putting this gorilla 9 x 5 away for future use and a thorough disinfection regiment before I use it again.. Live / learn.
 

joe macclennan

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really preventative practices are best when it comes to pm and insects.

come to think of it since you had mites and pm it sounds like you need more air movement. i'd bout bet on it. Put some more fans in your tent somehow and get that air moving around. however many fans you have now.....double it.

with clones though air movement is no good ime
 

hexthat

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next time you get clones quarantine them even if they are from harborside

spider mites are spread grower to grower and PM just flys around the air everywhere and u pretty much need hepa filter and neem oil every week to prevent it
 

Hannibal Cannabinol

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sir u confused the hell out of me ..........this is a sign i need sleep or i do not know guess it is sleep

ok mold .................u have mold in the tent on the buds .............remove that plant cut off all the uneffective buds and make BHO or Canna buter from it

as for the other buds in the system .........depending on how your air moves they could completely shot ...........mold spores get on them they do not need to do anything other then land on the plant and u smoke it ................personally i would remove the whole grow and restart it instead of risking hurting self or others ..............convert the stuff into BHO or canna butter (both of those methods will make it safe to use)

what is your humidty runing at for mold it has to be some where in the 60%s

I had my exhaust fan off during the dark period for a while.. One day I opened the tent during lights out, which I never do..and I noticed how humid it was.. From then on the fan was on 24 7.. I think that humid / warm lights out period was when the PM started up.. The plant was kinda shoved into a corner for a while too.. I had basically inadvertently created the perfect environment for PM without even trying.. I have a 745 cfm exhaust... I have never used it at full power. I have to use it to regulate the humidity and temp... guessing game at first... first run in this tent. Only using a small section of the tent... in a space about 3.5'-4' x 5'...
Thanks : )
 
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