Can you live on minimum wage? (Calculator)

Dr Kynes

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Fund

From 2002 until his death in October 2012, the fund was headed by psychology professor J. Philippe Rushton....The 1937 incorporation documents of the Pioneer Fund list two purposes. The first, modeled on the Nazi Lebensborn breeding program,[SUP][14][/SUP] was aimed at encouraging the propagation of those "descended predominantly from white persons who settled in the original thirteen states prior to the adoption of the Constitution of the United States and/or from related stocks, or to classes of children, the majority of whom are deemed to be so descended". Its second purpose was to support academic research and the "dissemination of information, into the 'problem of heredity and eugenics'" and "the problems of race betterment".[SUP][13][/SUP]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Century_Foundation

The New Century Foundation is an organization founded in 1994 known primarily for publishing American Renaissance. From 1994 to 1999 its activities received considerable funding by the Pioneer Fund,[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] and has been described as a white supremacist group,[SUP][4][/SUP] which its founder, Jared Taylor, denies, calling it white separatist.






gee, that was fucking easy. wanna try again, miss kynes?
"sourcing" from wikipedia...

Invalid Citation.

yeah thats what ya call FAILING GRADES.

even jr high kids know better than to source wikipedia for their school projects.

even the footnotes dont relate to "eugenics projects" merely the hyperbolic claims of touts for multiculturalism, and of course, race pimps like yourself.

the southern povery law center claims everybody is racist, and thats where most of their footnotes go, plus the Anti-Defamation League, which is hardly a reputable source.

whats even more hilarious, i cited rushton ONE TIME, from one of his non-controverial studies, among many other researchers' works on why AFRICA is plagued by low IQ's and you have made it your mission to insinuate that i fack off while watching videos of rushton speeches.

why so much venom? because i dont value "multiculturalism" as you envision it.

your view of "multiculturalism" is not plurality, it is extermination of all things european, all things american and most importantly, all things WHITE.

i got no interest in being your next man-crush.

pound sand.
 

NoDrama

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I'm never hungry even eating vegan low carb and no refined sugar. It's always 72 degrees indoor. 300 blu-rays on a 12 foot wide screen, 5.1 sound. 7 - 9 hours sleep each day. I write all day. Get high. Yep, life sucks. Yet all you commies wonder why I say fuck your hope, change, 1%, greed, minimum wage and whatever other bullshit you lazy fucks come up with.
Panny AE8000 3D projector, 8' wide screen, OPPO 103 DVD, bi-amp, 7.2, 2 outboard amps driving front L/R and 2 subs, Denon AVR receiver driving center, rear L/R, back.

Yep, life is good!

Save your bucks and buy the Oppo 103. It IS that good, a steal for what you get. Got mine "refurb" in perfect condition from the Cali factory. http://www.oppodigital.com/

Yep, fuck Mr. Plastic Fantastic's "hope and change".
Life is better without television. try it for a month, you find you aren't missing much and have more time to do more productive things, or not.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Life is better without television. try it for a month, you find you aren't missing much and have more time to do more productive things, or not.
We're cancelling our Direct TV account this month. I watch EVERYTHING on my Ipad these days. I stream movies on my laptop straight to the big screens and never see commercials unless I want to see them. Gonna get a digital antenna for local stations and sports, but I'm not going to miss shelling out $110 a month for shit I don't watch.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
"sourcing" from wikipedia...

Invalid Citation.

yeah thats what ya call FAILING GRADES.

even jr high kids know better than to source wikipedia for their school projects.

even the footnotes dont relate to "eugenics projects" merely the hyperbolic claims of touts for multiculturalism, and of course, race pimps like yourself.

the southern povery law center claims everybody is racist, and thats where most of their footnotes go, plus the Anti-Defamation League, which is hardly a reputable source.

whats even more hilarious, i cited rushton ONE TIME, from one of his non-controverial studies, among many other researchers' works on why AFRICA is plagued by low IQ's and you have made it your mission to insinuate that i fack off while watching videos of rushton speeches.

why so much venom? because i dont value "multiculturalism" as you envision it.

your view of "multiculturalism" is not plurality, it is extermination of all things european, all things american and most importantly, all things WHITE.

i got no interest in being your next man-crush.

pound sand.
you sad little racist.

you not only cited rushton, you emphatically claimed he was not racist.

that's right. you claimed that the guy who spoke at a conference whose purpose was to "defend america's christian heritage and european identity...from immigrants, islam, and blacks" was not racist.

you claimed the guy who funds admittedly white separatist groups is not racist.

don't believe wiki? ask jared taylor himself, the founder of american renaissance and the new century foundation. he said it, not the SPLC.

the SPLC also calls the new black panthers a hate group, but since their claims are not valid according to you, they must not be.

and by the way, your "YOU ARE ANTI WHITE" claim fails hard. not only am i white, with white parents, married to a white chick of white parents, but we also plan to have little white babies. and if you were capable of finding a woman desperate enough to bear the child of an overweight, racist, middle aged, min wager, you could have white babies too and i would not say a thing to stop you.

your heroic defense of nazi-style eugenics and white separatism is pathetic.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
you sad little racist.

you not only cited rushton, you emphatically claimed he was not racist.

that's right. you claimed that the guy who spoke at a conference whose purpose was to "defend america's christian heritage and european identity...from immigrants, islam, and blacks" was not racist.

you claimed the guy who funds admittedly white separatist groups is not racist.

don't believe wiki? ask jared taylor himself, the founder of american renaissance and the new century foundation. he said it, not the SPLC.

the SPLC also calls the new black panthers a hate group, but since their claims are not valid according to you, they must not be.

and by the way, your "YOU ARE ANTI WHITE" claim fails hard. not only am i white, with white parents, married to a white chick of white parents, but we also plan to have little white babies. and if you were capable of finding a woman desperate enough to bear the child of an overweight, racist, middle aged, min wager, you could have white babies too and i would not say a thing to stop you.

your heroic defense of nazi-style eugenics and white separatism is pathetic.
Bad dog, Xerxes you're gonna get put in your crate of you don't stop busting ass. How does so much stinky hot air come out of such a small, insignificant little ass?
 

Padawanbater2

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Yeah, I don't see how not having a car, makes you prefer rough sex.

I used to bicycle that distance to get to class. It is only an hr commute. It is good for Pad, And an hour commute makes him tough for job market. And he might meet some rough skank with no self esteem, like him. He might just waste his life with his thumb up his ass.

No car. WTF??? Work more, pontificate on RIU, much less. Broadband but no car. What is this world coming to?
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Dr Kynes

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you sad little racist.

you not only cited rushton, you emphatically claimed he was not racist.

that's right. you claimed that the guy who spoke at a conference whose purpose was to "defend america's christian heritage and european identity...from immigrants, islam, and blacks" was not racist.

you claimed the guy who funds admittedly white separatist groups is not racist.

don't believe wiki? ask jared taylor himself, the founder of american renaissance and the new century foundation. he said it, not the SPLC.

the SPLC also calls the new black panthers a hate group, but since their claims are not valid according to you, they must not be.

and by the way, your "YOU ARE ANTI WHITE" claim fails hard. not only am i white, with white parents, married to a white chick of white parents, but we also plan to have little white babies. and if you were capable of finding a woman desperate enough to bear the child of an overweight, racist, middle aged, min wager, you could have white babies too and i would not say a thing to stop you.

your heroic defense of nazi-style eugenics and white separatism is pathetic.
revisionism run amok.

i said Citation needed, and you pooped back with the usual bullshit wiki-sources and idiotic hyperbolic claims.

funny how he kept his chair at a canadian university despite his "white supremacism" and "nazism".

funny how all the criticisms of his work are "That's Racist" not "That's Bad Science"

funny how his work is still cited in the literature

funny how i cited his socilogical study of african IQ scores (which are non controversial and abysmal) and his assessment that much of africa suffers from Cretinism, not genetic inferiority.

funny how his recommendation was "nutritional aid to children in africa", not wholesale slaughter of a generation of african kids (the Margaret Sanger Plan)

funny how despite you repeated attempts to paint him as a rabid racist, NOBODY believes it except your Choir Idiotic, and it's Castrato Soloist, See4.

funny how you are irrelevant.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
"From 1992 to 2007 the top 400 earners in the U.S. saw their income increase 392% and their average tax rate reduced by 37%. The share of total income in America going to the top 1% of American households (also after federal taxes and income transfers) increased from 11.3% in 1979 to 20.9% in 2007. A 2013 study by Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez et al., notes that the rise in the share of total annual income received by the top 1%, which has more than doubled since 1976, has had a significant effect on overall income inequality. It states: "It is tempting to dismiss the study of this group as a passing political fad due to the slogans of the Occupy movement or as the academic equivalent of reality TV. But the magnitudes are truly substantial." Also in 2013, the Economic Policy Institute noted that even though corporate profits are at historic highs, the wage and benefit growth of the vast majority has stagnated. The fruits of overall growth have accrued disproportionately to the top 1%."



During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, inequality declined, with total income going to the bottom 99 percent of Americans declining by 11.6%, but falling faster (36.3%) for the top 1%.


However, disparity in income increased again during the 2009–2010 recovery, with the top 1% of income earners capturing 11.6% of income and capital gains, and the income of the other 99% remained flat, growing by only 0.2%. 60% of earners in the top 0.1 percent are executives, managers, supervisors, and financial professionals. More than half of them work in closely held businesses. The top 1 percent is composed of many professions, the five most common professions being managers, physicians, administrators, lawyers, and financial specialists. Doctors are more likely than any other profession to be in the 1 percent. According to PolitiFact and others, 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined.


OECD's study in May 2013 said the richest 10 percent of society in OECD countries pocketed 9.5 times as much market income as the poorest 10 percent in 2010, up from 9 times in 2007. It also stated that the widest gap between rich and poor was found in Chile, Mexico, Turkey and the United States. By contrast, Iceland, Slovenia, Norway and Denmark were the most egalitarian societies.


Upward redistribution of income is responsible for about 43% of the projected Social Security shortfall over the next 75 years.


Rising income inequality has been linked to the political polarization in Washington DC. According to a 2013 study published in the Political Research Quarterly, elected officials tend to be more responsive to the upper income bracket and ignore lower income groups.

"Lisa Shalett of Merrill Lynch Wealth Management found that real average hourly earnings in the US "are essentially flat to down, with today’s inflation-adjusted wage equating to about the same level as that attained by workers in 1970", despite the fact that "for the last two decades and especially in the current period", productivity has "soared". The benefits of productivity during this cycle had gone "almost exclusively to corporations and their very top executives."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
"From 1992 to 2007 the top 400 earners in the U.S. saw their income increase 392% and their average tax rate reduced by 37%. The share of total income in America going to the top 1% of American households (also after federal taxes and income transfers) increased from 11.3% in 1979 to 20.9% in 2007. A 2013 study by Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez et al., notes that the rise in the share of total annual income received by the top 1%, which has more than doubled since 1976, has had a significant effect on overall income inequality. It states: "It is tempting to dismiss the study of this group as a passing political fad due to the slogans of the Occupy movement or as the academic equivalent of reality TV. But the magnitudes are truly substantial." Also in 2013, the Economic Policy Institute noted that even though corporate profits are at historic highs, the wage and benefit growth of the vast majority has stagnated. The fruits of overall growth have accrued disproportionately to the top 1%."



During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, inequality declined, with total income going to the bottom 99 percent of Americans declining by 11.6%, but falling faster (36.3%) for the top 1%.


However, disparity in income increased again during the 2009–2010 recovery, with the top 1% of income earners capturing 11.6% of income and capital gains, and the income of the other 99% remained flat, growing by only 0.2%. 60% of earners in the top 0.1 percent are executives, managers, supervisors, and financial professionals. More than half of them work in closely held businesses. The top 1 percent is composed of many professions, the five most common professions being managers, physicians, administrators, lawyers, and financial specialists. Doctors are more likely than any other profession to be in the 1 percent. According to PolitiFact and others, 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined.


OECD's study in May 2013 said the richest 10 percent of society in OECD countries pocketed 9.5 times as much market income as the poorest 10 percent in 2010, up from 9 times in 2007. It also stated that the widest gap between rich and poor was found in Chile, Mexico, Turkey and the United States. By contrast, Iceland, Slovenia, Norway and Denmark were the most egalitarian societies.


Upward redistribution of income is responsible for about 43% of the projected Social Security shortfall over the next 75 years.


Rising income inequality has been linked to the political polarization in Washington DC. According to a 2013 study published in the Political Research Quarterly, elected officials tend to be more responsive to the upper income bracket and ignore lower income groups.

"Lisa Shalett of Merrill Lynch Wealth Management found that real average hourly earnings in the US "are essentially flat to down, with today’s inflation-adjusted wage equating to about the same level as that attained by workers in 1970", despite the fact that "for the last two decades and especially in the current period", productivity has "soared". The benefits of productivity during this cycle had gone "almost exclusively to corporations and their very top executives."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
too bad that chart and all the others just like it dont differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK.

thats why profits are up in the financial sector, but flat in real productive sectors of the economy.

even "auto industry" giants like GM have their profit numbers skewed by their financial industry subsidiaries (like GMAC) so you cant see where they are making money by having money, and where they are making money by MAKING THINGS

since most "99%ers" dont have a financial industry subsidiary to grow their money by simply having money, and most "99%ers" dont get govt bailouts, low and NO interest loans which they can then parlay into interest bearing vehicles or re-lend for the Vig, these charts ALWAYS make a bullshit story from a horseshit assumption.

"productivity" cannot be measured by how many dollars bank of america creates by rubbing other people's money together to generate magic money dust.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
revisionism run amok.

i said Citation needed, and you pooped back with the usual bullshit wiki-sources and idiotic hyperbolic claims.

funny how he kept his chair at a canadian university despite his "white supremacism" and "nazism".

funny how all the criticisms of his work are "That's Racist" not "That's Bad Science"

funny how his work is still cited in the literature

funny how i cited his socilogical study of african IQ scores (which are non controversial and abysmal) and his assessment that much of africa suffers from Cretinism, not genetic inferiority.

funny how his recommendation was "nutritional aid to children in africa", not wholesale slaughter of a generation of african kids (the Margaret Sanger Plan)

funny how despite you repeated attempts to paint him as a rabid racist, NOBODY believes it except your Choir Idiotic, and it's Castrato Soloist, See4.

funny how you are irrelevant.

you can put all the decorations you want on your version of white nationalism, white separatism, or white supremacy, kynes.

the fact remains that it is all racist tripe, as are the people like you who try to sell it in the least offensive package possible.

worst of all is how you attempt to take the ugliness of your position and ascribe it to anyone who differs from your racist bircher view on things.

if we can't agree that funding american renaissance and speaking at conferences about 'defending america's european, christian identity from the threat of blacks, immigrants, and muslims' is racist tripe, then we simply can't agree.

i highly doubt that most people would agree with you over me, but that is your delusion to harbor and not mine.

one last favor: stop trying to ascribe your own desires for racial purity to multiculturalism, stop trying to ignore all recent history and claim that the left rather than the right is the "anti-negro" party (as you so charmingly put it), and stop trying to tell an ongoing series of "innocent" lies that invariably favor your sick narrative of white persecution at the hands of multiculuralist (read: black) overlords.

thanks in advance, fatty.

and don't forget to tuck your mother in tonight.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
too bad that chart and all the others just like it dont differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK.

thats why profits are up in the financial sector, but flat in real productive sectors of the economy.
Can you provide a chart that does "differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK"?

even "auto industry" giants like GM have their profit numbers skewed by their financial industry subsidiaries (like GMAC) so you cant see where they are making money by having money, and where they are making money by MAKING THINGS

since most "99%ers" dont have a financial industry subsidiary to grow their money by simply having money, and most "99%ers" dont get govt bailouts, low and NO interest loans which they can then parlay into interest bearing vehicles or re-lend for the Vig, these charts ALWAYS make a bullshit story from a horseshit assumption.
Evidence?

"productivity" cannot be measured by how many dollars bank of america creates by rubbing other people's money together to generate magic money dust.
That's not how productivity is measured
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Can you provide a chart that does "differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK"?
he can not do that because as he often does, he just makes up definitions that sound good to him. he will, however, attempt to define his terms with 8-14 pages of purple prose in his attempt to be the next galileo.



That's not how productivity is measured
that won't stop him from delivering you a sermon andor manifesto shortly about how productivity should be measured, almost invariably including a tale from his days doing hard work before his knee gave out and he had to shack up with 3-8 other family members while working a minimum wage job at walmart or a barely above minimum wage at target.

but i digress.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Can you provide a chart that does "differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK"?



Evidence?



That's not how productivity is measured
the government doesnt differentiate between GDP growth from financial maneuvers and actual productive work.

thats why the tech bubble allowed clinton to manufacture his illusory "surpluses"

case in point: Pets dot com.

they had NO asset beyond their "brand" they produced nothing, and simply directed a slice of other people's productive work into their pockets.

another example: Enron.

building a paper fortune with nothing underneath is exactly the same to economists as building something of actual value, until the paper monolith blows away in a breeze and the "investors" have nothing.

productivity is measured by GDP, that is all.

when Barry Seotoro prints up trillions of Obamabucks, and doles them out into circulation GDP rises even though NOTHING of value was created.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Profits are up in the financial sector because the rules have been skewed to favor those in the financial sector
profits are up in the financial sector because HAVING MONEY is a sure way to have more money, especially with inflationary vanishing dollars.

making a lot of dollars into a shitload of dollars is essential when every dollar loses ~3% of it's value every year.

bought a house in 1980 for $100k? now it's worth $300k+?

it's still the same house on the same patch of dirt but you "created" $200k worth of GDP "productivity" by simply not burning it down.

and thats treated exactly the same as building a business worth $200k in property and inventory, or creating $200k worth of a product, or mining out $200k worth of gold from the ground, or printing up $200k worth of counterfeit currency.

this is why CRIME adds to GDP, it forces money into motion, to replace that which was stolen, and moves money around when the stolen goods are fenced and re-sold.

economics is only interested in money in motion, holding savings and assets is considered waste.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
it's still the same house on the same patch of dirt but you "created" $200k worth of GDP "productivity" by simply not burning it down.
some people find that task exceedingly hard to manage. like your mom. or red's (former) family.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
the government doesnt differentiate between GDP growth from financial maneuvers and actual productive work.
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neener neener
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productivity is measured by GDP, that is all.

when Barry Seotoro prints up trillions of Obamabucks, and doles them out into circulation GDP rises even though NOTHING of value was created.
I made this for you...

manufacturing productivity 2014 US.JPG

To compile this, I took Total Sales in Manufacturing ($Mn/mth) and divided it by Manufacturing Employees (1000's/mth).
To get a real ratio, I'd need to dig up labour costs, but I think that chart is telling enough.

Some would call that a productivity chart.
And something is making it go up.
 
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