NLXSK1
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It seems you trust the criminals and the government more than your neighbor.
I do not share your views.
Another shooting in a Maryland Mall
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I do not share your views.
canndo
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Being as the majority of those who post here are criminals, I tend to trust criminals more than I trust government. That is not the point. The "guns will keep us free " bullshit s a ruse, and a dangereous one at that. When we have a quiver of methods and weapons with which to protect what freedoms we have, some times some of the arrows in that quiver become less effective as time goes on. To continue to rely upon them is folly. The longer the gun folk continue to believe that their final protection against government is the 2nd amendment, the more freedom is lost - But, those folks are still ignorant of that fact. They have romantic notions of civil insurection and united defense of their "freedoms" with their fake little "assault" weapons and that is a false security. What should be happening is that those most intersted in their freedoms use the most powerful of their defenses NOW, not wait until they are reduced to depending upon their collection of firearms.
But I know this is a foreign concept to the hardened firearm people who actually believe that what they have in their gun safe is some sort of security against government incursion into their lives.
It isnt, all that is over. I don't trust my government but all your 100s of million weapons isn't going to amount to anything at all as your rights are steadily stripped from you.
UncleBuck
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if you were my neighbor, i certainly would.
Yes it does.
canndo
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Dr Kynes
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ARMS was chosen to include swords, long guns, pistols, spears, bows and arrows, crossbows, "Hand Bombs" (yes GRENADES) artillery pieces, cannons, bombards, and "EVERY TERRIBLE WEAPON OF THE SOLDIER" ~Tench Coxe 1788
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." ~Tench Coxe The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788
"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."~ Tench Coxe (1755–1824), writing as "A Pennsylvanian," in "Remarks On The First Part Of The Amendments To The Federal Constitution," in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, p. 2 col. 1
seeing as he was there, he would be in a position to know what was meant by "arms"
kpmarine
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So that means that they meant nuclear arms. I think that alone proves they had no damn clue of what was to come. I'm fairly certain our founding fathers would not have been a fan of any citizen having the ability to turn the entirety of our infant country to ashes. FFS, they didn't even trust people with voting rights unless they had a cock, were white, and had land.
nope, you aren't. Read the amendment and it clearly states that the government cannot do anything that would limit that right. No where does it say you are given anything. It was assumed in the declaration that mans rights came from God and god alone. If the constitution was a list of all of our rights, then we sure don't have many. The Connie tells government what it can and cannot do, it doesn't list rights or grant rights to anyone.
I think you know this though.
LOL the average citizen owning a nuke even if it were legal is ludicrous, the average citizen does not have BILLIONS of dollars to spend on such an endeavor. You can legally own a tank, but you never hear of the great tank calamity in this country. You can legally own fully automatic weapons, yet no mass murders by them. You can legally own a samurai sword, yet no mass beheadings. You can legally own all sorts of deadly objects, yet nothing ever really happens in great numbers, except food and tobacco, they are the top killers in the USA. Ban food and tobacco!!
MuyLocoNC
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To make the nuclear arms claim, the average US soldier would have to be issued a nuclear device as a standard weapon. Automatic weapons and grenades, yup. When they start handing our soldiers "nucleoid" missle packs, then it's time for them to be in civilian hands as well.
Dr Kynes
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that is classic reductio ad absurdum.
the militia act of 1792 specifically prohibist private or even state ownership and operation of "Ships of War"
even the most retarded among us can recognize that "Ships of War" would naturally extend to combat aircraft, tanks, and whatnot.
likewise nuclear arms are well outside the scope of "All the terrible weapons of the soldier" since at no time could a soldier carry or employ such arms.
bioweapons maybe? nope.
chemical weapons? nope.
no soldier has ever had the ability to employ bioweapons, or chemical weapons, unless you wanna count The Pox, or farts.
contrary to the assertions of canndo and beefytits, personal arms were a defense against tyranny, not by one guy holding a standoff with the fbi, but by the nation's good men rising up with their rifles and pistols.
thats what ya call a "revolution" and they do work.
G Washington and his friends overthrew the dominant military power in the world with huntin guns and pistols despite all the british heavy weaponry.
sometimes governments go bad, thats why the second amendment was included. to ALLOW the possibility of another revolution, not just to deter invasion or insurrection.
desert dude
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How can a man your age be so naive?
see4
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Your argument is that, "people kill people", rather than "guns kill people". So if we don't regulate the sale of firearms, what are we to do about the people? We are all totally open to suggestion.
canndo
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Paint us a scenario then. When will this revolution happen, how? how will all those who would "stand up" be organized and commanded and where would they strike? What would trigger such an event and describe for us all how it could succeed. I have yet to hear anything but romantic platitudes about uprisings in the United States - give us a description of how events would unfold.
ChesusRice
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Just came across this.
Every racist I have seen so far misspells Border
Harrekin
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Illegal necros crossing the boarder into the first page.
We need to build a wall...