Why do ALL the LED grows look so lame compared to HID?

lumbo

Well-Known Member
Just wondering why all the LED grown pics when compared to HID pics look so weak. People all excited about buds which are so small. I have yet to see an LED grow which even equals MH/HPS grow.

After spending thousands I wish I would not have let myself fall for the hype.
 

charface

Well-Known Member
slipon pulled several nice buds and posted pics today.
I think the thread is called bud porn
in toke n talk.

very respectable led grow.
Maybe it will cheer ya up.


**H@Ck ALLeRt**
Any info I give is based on what I would be comfortable doing.
Please get other opinions.

In nature plants don't live in plastic buckets but at my house they do or they get the f**k out.
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
Just wondering why all the LED grown pics when compared to HID pics look so weak. People all excited about buds which are so small. I have yet to see an LED grow which even equals MH/HPS grow.

After spending thousands I wish I would not have let myself fall for the hype.
you are looking in the wrong places.. and made the wrong purchase. Educate yourself before diving in and paying too much for low quality lighting.

Your issue can be grower error. first time growing with led there will be a learning curve. Plants feed at a different rate under led and quality led panels need to be further away. at the least 18 inches from canopy. Having them too close can stunt growth. look at everything else too, nutes, health of plants, environment, etc...
 

SupraSPL

Well-Known Member
These were growing using LED tech that is now slightly outdated. Better results than I get from a bare 600HPS. More frosting, denser and more stink than running the same clones under HPS. They also seem to finish faster. These are not high yielding varieties these are OGs. Kandy Kush, OG18, Cannalope Kush, Buddha Tahoe OG, Kosher Kush and Sour Kush all done in recycled organic soil. I am sure there are varieties, growers and systems out there that would outyield me using these same lights.

qjpvstgvpiwdf4lzygcc8a.jpg DSC06682a O18c (2).jpg DSC06698a CannKsh.jpg DSC06744b.jpg
 

Attachments

vostok

Well-Known Member
If you want .....but avoid the noobies and there china made leds and buy american HIDs, if you want the yield that is ...? lol
 

Jbone77

Well-Known Member
Just wondering why all the LED grown pics when compared to HID pics look so weak. People all excited about buds which are so small. I have yet to see an LED grow which even equals MH/HPS grow.

After spending thousands I wish I would not have let myself fall for the hype.
I feel for ya, it sucks but nothing will be beating a good ol 600 or 1000 watt hid rig thats given the same veg time any time soon. Its nice to grow a pound with 4 plants and a 4 week veg. Live and learn my friend
 

putangluv

Active Member
keep in mind that leds only use a fraction of the power of hids. And by power i mean the real power not the advertised power. Ive gotten very good yields with leds and really good quality bud. You just have to know what you're doing. with that being said I use hids in winter when the temps are low and leds during summer.
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
I feel for ya, it sucks but nothing will be beating a good ol 600 or 1000 watt hid rig thats given the same veg time any time soon. Its nice to grow a pound with 4 plants and a 4 week veg. Live and learn my friend
I don't know one person including hid growers that veg for less than 8 weeks. I even know some hid growers that veg purple kush for 3 months and get small yields. they rock 10 1000's in one room and 4 600's in another room. most true kushes grow very very slow. no matter what lighting. The whole tga crew rocks all 1000's they veg for 2- 3 months
 

Jbone77

Well-Known Member
I don't know one person including hid growers that veg for less than 8 weeks. I even know some hid growers that veg purple kush for 3 months and get small yields. most true kushes grow very very slow. no matter what lighting.
Never heard of 12/12 from seed? That should be a dead giveaway. 4 plants, 4 week veg, 4 oz each = 1 pound with a bad grower under 1000 and a decent grower under a 600, easy as it gets
 

putangluv

Active Member
so 1000 real led watts,would come close to 1000 watt hps?

1000 watts real led would be way better than 1000w hps. Leds only output the lights that the plant actually needs like reds, blues, etc. Hps wastes some of the power for the greens, yellows that the plant cant absorb.
 

Positivity

Well-Known Member
My 600w horti setup is in a Rubbermaid...haven't felt the need to use it. The radiant heat emitted was leaving my herb smellin' like hay. If I lived in snow would be nother' story I'm sure..

Good enough for me by far...

image.jpg
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
Never heard of 12/12 from seed? That should be a dead giveaway. 4 plants, 4 week veg, 4 oz each = 1 pound with a bad grower under 1000 and a decent grower under a 600, easy as it gets
the tga guys get 10 zips per plant in 15 gals and veg for 2 to mostly 3 months.. they are doing a vs led now. but using lush lighting / we-shine crap. with 4 week veg and 4 zips each only sativa doms can do that. an ibl master kush purple kush at most will get 1 zip with a 4 week veg. I have 1000w vs par t5 andled in my journal entries.

12/12 from seed is sprouting a seed in 12/12 . its to immature to start flowering right away. it will still veg for 3-5 weeks until mature enough to flower. They will stretch like the first 2 weeks of normal flower. (twice as much as in veg) . Its for people who want a perpetual grow with only one room or just trying out a new strain as quickly as possible.... Theres a huge thread on it in the indoor section thats been going for years,
 

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
Never heard of 12/12 from seed? That should be a dead giveaway. 4 plants, 4 week veg, 4 oz each = 1 pound with a bad grower under 1000 and a decent grower under a 600, easy as it gets

Show me ONE 12/12 FS grow where the grower hit ONE POUND with four plants under 600w hid............"easy as it gets" is a huge understatement.
 

Positivity

Well-Known Member
Genuity>> 360w led and 24w uv floro tube. Commercial led lights did leave me wanting more. DIY using good components made a big difference.
 

Jbone77

Well-Known Member
the tga guys get 10 zips per plant in 15 gals and veg for 2 to mostly 3 months.. they are doing a vs led now. but using lush lighting / we-shine crap. with 4 week veg and 4 zips each only sativa doms can do that. an ibl master kush purple kush at most will get 1 zip with a 4 week veg. I have 1000w vs par t5 andled in my journal entries.

12/12 from seed is sprouting a seed in 12/12 . its to immature to start flowering right away. it will still veg for 3-5 weeks until mature enough to flower. They will stretch like the first 2 weeks of normal flower. (twice as much as in veg) . Its for people who want a perpetual grow with only one room or just trying out a new strain as quickly as possible.... Theres a huge thread on it in the indoor section thats been going for years,
Sure, you can veg for 3-4 months under hid but not with 1 light. 1 light in a 4x4 tent with a 4 week veg to get 4 ozs per plant is all u need, indica doms with a 9 week flower. Until now iv never vegged more than 4 weeks but I decided to tinker with supercropping so im gonna veg til maybe week 7 with a blue og and a ultra sour so 2 more weeks n il flip. Threw in a critical + that I topped UB style that will only get 4 weeks veg just to fill a corner.
 
Top