Can you live on minimum wage? (Calculator)

Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Padawanbater2 said:
The fact is a disproportionate amount of wealth has gone to the upper class because our politicians that make the rules have been bought off by corporations. Wealthy people run corporations, they finance political campaigns, politicians vote according to their interests and this is how the game works.
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Liberals really play that game. For example, George Soros spent millions of his own money financing Obama's campaigns. Unlike Romney who has given millions to charity, I doubt if Soros has or does. Heck, his idea of giving to charity is giving to tyrants like Obama.
 
Doer

Doer

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's what you said, why do you think you can just say something without showing evidence to support it (Pads's MO) and expect people to believe it?

You say all the gains made are in the financial sector with people just moving money around and not actually producing anything and expect me to accept that as justification for why all the gains in income have gone to the top 20% since 1979. None of the workers have made shit,(No improvement, at all since 1979???) it's all just the big shots at the top making all the important decisions and earning their shareholders more money that should be rewarded. Sorry, but no, that's bullshit. I'd think that was a bullshit excuse even if I believed you and that was the case.

The fact is a disproportionate amount of wealth has gone to the upper class because our politicians that make the rules have been bought off by corporations. Wealthy people run corporations, they finance political campaigns, politicians vote according to their interests and this is how the game works.
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The way the games works? As if you know that? All that I bolded for emphasis shows me you do not. You are worse than a cry-baby. You actually expect us to believe your tantrums have merit..

So, a spoiled brat is more like it. Shit slinging in the midst of plenty. You are like a bind drunk being punched out by the Television.

Get a car, get at job, move from your parents, try to have loving sex, and grow the fuck up. Your opinions are childish. And they are beneath any facts. They deny the fact that you are lied to, in your little mushroom cave of a life.

I showed how we owe 2/3 of our "DEBT" to ourselves. And I showed how you repeat the lies about that.

This post of yours is the same thing. Repeated lies and no original thought. Just ask yourself. Don't tell me. How much have you ever earned? Are you even eligible for Social Security? How much TAXES have you paid? How much have you soaked us, already? How much do you intend to?

Will you get with it, or get plowed under? Those are the only questions in life. And all political thought, (and the Buddhists say, ALL THOUGHT,) is designed to distract us from making it REAL in life.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Uncle Ben said:
Liberals really play that game. For example, George Soros spent millions of his own money financing Obama's campaigns. Unlike Romney who has given millions to charity, I doubt if Soros has or does. Heck, his idea of giving to charity is giving to tyrants like Obama.
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Romney doesn't show documents relevant to his legal standing as president: American freedom

Obama doesn't show records relevant to his legal standing as president: Evil liar/likely muslim
 
Doer

Doer

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kpmarine said:
Romney doesn't show documents relevant to his legal standing as president: American freedom

Obama doesn't show records relevant to his legal standing as president: Evil liar/likely muslim
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kpreason, voice of.....RIGHT ON!!
 
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schuylaar

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Uncle Ben said:
Liberals really play that game. For example, George Soros spent millions of his own money financing Obama's campaigns. Unlike Romney who has given millions to charity, I doubt if Soros has or does. Heck, his idea of giving to charity is giving to tyrants like Obama.
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1. romney's liberal (yet legal) use of loopholes not only cheats the american government ruled in democracy which cheats the american people, he also cheats on his tithe, which should bar him from his status as bishop in the church of mormon.
2. kock brothers illegally funnel monies through shell 501(c)(4)'s which is why the irs "flagged" and rejected paperwork from far right unproportionately due to the large flux of applications from them.
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
so, $1000 an hour min Wage, anyone disagree?
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i would prefer $12.63 and feel it's very fair..big corporate needs to stop shifting their burden onto the taxpayer = republican and democrats alike..big corporate doesn't discriminate when it comes to others picking up the tab.

i figured this with echelon using his country's minimum wage then converting to usd and that's what it came to..in reality keeping with inflation we would have been around $23.

EDIT: if big corporate cannot afford to maintain a living wage for employees working a full time job..perhaps they should not be in business.
 
jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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kpmarine said:
Romney doesn't show documents relevant to his legal standing as president: American freedom

Obama doesn't show records relevant to his legal standing as president: Evil liar/likely muslim
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Disclosing your tax records is not a legal requirement to become president: US Constitution

Proving your you eligibility to become president with a birth certificate is: US Constitution
 
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schuylaar

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jahbrudda said:
Disclosing your tax records is not a legal requirement to become president: US Constitution

Proving your you eligibility to become president with a birth certificate is: US Constitution
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1. while not a requirement to disclose taxes, historically, candidates do as to "be an open book with nothing to hide"..with romneys resistance he drew more attention to himself than he would of had he just done what is done historically.

2.president obama has produced his birth certificate..why would this still be an issue?
 
Doer

Doer

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jahbrudda said:
Disclosing your tax records is not a legal requirement to become president: US Constitution

Proving your you eligibility to become president with a birth certificate is: US Constitution
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Oh, no. Nothing in there about proof of citizenship.

Article Two, Section 1 of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
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Doer

Doer

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schuylaar said:
1. while not a requirement to disclose taxes, historically, candidates do as to "be an open book with nothing to hide"..with romneys resistance he drew more attention to himself than he would of had he just done what is done historically.

2.president obama has produced his birth certificate..why would this still be an issue?
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No. No one has seen an original BC from the USA for Barry Sweto. But, we have seen that his mother is a US citizen, but, dual with Indonesia.

So, the gray area and quite moot at this point, since he was vetted and served as a US Senator. The issue with his mother's actual status. She may well have formally renounced her US citizenship. So, quite technically he may not have qualified and it may be a gray area, but, too late.

He is the 44th President of the United States. And we are not so stupid as to be a sticker for this. We will not un-ring this bell. And he is a world popular 2 termer and certainly an African since his father was. He has the 14 years+ of formative USA, out in the mid-west which is a main part to me. And he is opposed by normals, and by race viciousness, not since Lincoln in the Presidential choice.
So, that alone make it right to me regardless of the gray area. The Dems ran him, after Chicago knocked out Little Rock.
He won, (and no sqeekers) twice.

He is doing just fine. And I heard he doesn't like the job. It isn't kingly enough, maybe. :) He needs to join JayCee and Byonce on tour and I am sure he will. The King of the Pop World is something.

Only a bullet or life's fate can stop him now. He is an Institution already, on par with all US Presidents. He is bored and so am I.

Hillery.....??
 
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schuylaar

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Doer said:
Oh, no. Nothing in there about proof of citizenship.

Article Two, Section 1 of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
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good catch, doer:clap:
 
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