stickybuds*
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have a read of this lol
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/800491-i-have-defoliated-my-plants-4.html
Pruning all fan leafs during veg
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Popcorn900
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Very nice plant stickybuds*.
stickybuds*
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sorry nothofengland but I have done this and it does work
taken every fan leaves off a week before flower
can work really well on a fast growing strain
ilyaas123
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You've replied to a fucking thread about defoliating but still you fucking argue! WTF is wrong with you?!
stickybuds*
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maybe they will back off a little now and have a second thought about defoliation
Popcorn900
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I doubt it these people are stuck in the 60's. Let them hate. While they get 2 oz plants we get 5 oz's lol.maybe they will back off a little now and have a second thought about defoliation
stickybuds*
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been a perpetual grower, non stop for the last 8 years, pulling 6 crops a year
Popcorn900
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10 plus years for me.been a perpetual grower, non stop for the last 8 years, pulling 6 crops a year
cat of curiosity
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honestly, i've never defoliated for flower, other than pruning bottom 2/3's of the plants to allow for tight spacing (pretty much super sog), but i cut moms down once or twice a year to keep them bonsai and small. i'll leave only one node to grow back from and in a month, i'm taking at least a half dozen cuttings to train it into a bush again. rule of thumb is don't knock it til you've tried it.
Popcorn900
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Well said. The haters hate because they don't understand and have never done it and then they try to preach like they are expert lol.
cat of curiosity
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i call it regurgitation...
Bugeye
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Have not done this technique and I generally try not to stress my plants. But very interesting.
I have a hard time believing that removing all those leaves actually improves yields. From what has been discussed here, I only see anecdotal pics, no side by side comparisons of clones grown under same strength lights and same nutes but with a defoliation and LST technique vs. a pinch/FIM and LST technique. Beside yield, would like to know how they compare qualitatively in smoke tests.
Anybody done a more scientific test of this technique?
I have a hard time believing that removing all those leaves actually improves yields. From what has been discussed here, I only see anecdotal pics, no side by side comparisons of clones grown under same strength lights and same nutes but with a defoliation and LST technique vs. a pinch/FIM and LST technique. Beside yield, would like to know how they compare qualitatively in smoke tests.
Anybody done a more scientific test of this technique?
Cascadian
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Thanks for linking the article popcorn. I have always been of the opinion that defoliation was counter productive... more leaf mass meaning more ability for the plant to gain energy and grow bigger buds. I am starting a breeding project and will have room for 4 larger plants in addition to the plants I am crossing. I already have plenty of smoke from the last harvest so no risk in experimenting. I am going to try it on at least 2 of the plants and see what the results are. I will defoliate once in veg, once at 2 weeks flower and once about 2 weeks before harvest. I love a good experiment...
stickybuds*
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lol give it time they will change there mind
Popcorn900
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The stress issue is the only reason I won't do it again, remember my big one in the back? ya she hermi'd. If indeed you are going to try this do it with a good strain with strong genetics.
racerboy71
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exactly what i was thinking.. the op can claim taking off all his leaves up'ed his yield, but i don't see anything to compare it to.. it's not like he did a side by side with the same strains, say from clones, and ripped all of the leaves off of one and left them on the second, and treated them the same from that point, topped each, super cropped each identically, same nutes, yada yada yada..
if you don't have a control to compare against, you can claim all you want, but there's nothing to back this up.. it's not a scientific otherwise..
Cascadian
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Thanks for the warning, I do remember the hermie in the back from your last grow. I plan to defoliate gradually over several days at each step to minimize stress. One plant will be a Jack Herer and the other will be a Jilly Bean so pretty stable genetics. I will be documenting it along the way...
racerboy, you are right that without a control any experiment won't prove anytihng conclusively. I am just curious, and am confident that I will be able to judge the merits of the technique based on my experience with the strains I will be using. Looking forward to seeing what happens.
racerboy, you are right that without a control any experiment won't prove anytihng conclusively. I am just curious, and am confident that I will be able to judge the merits of the technique based on my experience with the strains I will be using. Looking forward to seeing what happens.
Popcorn900
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That will be a popular thread. Many people will watch just to see if they can come in and troll and say "I told you so". Follow the guide I posted as it has all the info you will need.
AND BE PREPARED TO BE TROLL'D.
stickybuds*
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never had any Hermie problems my self, but only grown reg seeds in soil and take cutting from the best plants
here's one of my plants, just turned over to flower
full picture of the plant
the main stem and side shoots
on this plant there 7 main shoots
look close at the plant, its not been topped/fim, lst, super cropped but still has a very level canopy