Shatter E-CIG Oil, Yes, it works!

[lowryderlove]

So after making some vary dank shatter, decided to try my hand again at VAPE THC oil, with shatter...


What you need


PG:
2/3 ratio of PG to shatter
however much shatter you want.
A shotglass
a sauce pan
thermometer

Put water up to the tip of the shot glass in the pan, put the shot glass in (make sure you can get no water)

Put in PG, bring to 190 degrees using thermo.

Add in shatter.

Stir vigourusly Till mixed.

Let cool. ENJOY

 

[EGrower]

What is PG?

 

[charface]

Let us know if and when it seperates please.

Im wondering if it seperates you can just
reheat it.

Im hearing people make small batches
because it seperates before they can use it if not.
Glad it worked for ya.

 

[charface]

What is PG?

propylene glycol

 

[lowryderlove]

I will let you know, it shouldn't seperate from what I am told they bind together. PG is Proylene Glycol, sundays are my experiment days, sometimes edibles sometimes other stuff.

 

[charface]

Cool. I glad to see this finally being resolved.
Have you tried adding flavor.
Friggin cherry lime oil sounds good.

 

[dbkick]

been done and pg ruins it for me. get a high wattage/voltage vape.
I've put oil/wax and straight up shatter in a kanger tank on an evic with great results.
Kanger pro tank 2 holds a couple g of material too.
With shatter of course I'd always have to preheat the tank.

 

[charface]

Im set up for vaping solids.
I just like the idea of pg/vg
and adding flavor
Im kind of a lightweight and im hoping
its not as devistating like this. lol

I have a volcano lavatube and get stainless carts
that hold slightly under a g

I have some infernos too with the new
bct tank but they are gutless.

 

[lowryderlove]

The PG does take a bit getting used to. It smells just like dank hash when the oil is not in the tank, and it currently has no flavor but the MJ, taste a lil bit puffy but good. I made another batch with apple cinnamon and it tastes great, can't taste the PG at all. You should try adding flavors to yours.

 

[charface]

double......

 

[charface]

Is there a reason people are leaning towards pg and not vg?
I assume it must not mix well.

So is it easier to control the hit.
Meaning is it a kinder gentler onset.

 

[lowryderlove]

PG is the vape oil of choice. I like it better personally and most oils around here are made with it..


FUCK dank tank, here are Cinnamon Apple, Orange Lemon, and Regular flavor tanks. All get u baked.

Good sunday experiment. Next week soemthing new!

 

[lowryderlove]

No, but the flavor is a bit different. Do a 2/3 ratio the oil is so strong that you will still get baked. make sure its some PURE clean stuff though, cant have any plant matter.

 

[Eric M]

hey i tried ppg for a while but it does not mix completely, i finally tried peg and had trouble finding a proper molecular weight
finaly i found "The Rite Stuff" on ebay its called The Rite Stuff use the heating method as above using one 5 ml bottle and one gram of shattered and only heat to 160 to melt thc but not start decarboxilation,mix well suck back into bottle and put in any E cig its really easy and does not seperate it makes a nice light honey that taste great. I hope this helps I know i tried the wrong stuff alot. just search "The Rite Stuff " on E bay

 

[Eric M]

i found the best way is to not put water in a pan, just put the shotglass on the coffee mug warmer,, i actually started using an induction cook top (PIC) and a candy thermometer touching the bottom of the pan with cook top set to 150 the shatter dissolves real nice in the rite stuff and is clear golden honey,,not like ppg which looks like a milkshake and clogs my wicks too fast

 

[Tampabean]

hey i tried ppg for a while but it does not mix completely, i finally tried peg and had trouble finding a proper molecular weight
finaly i found "The Rite Stuff" on ebay its called The Rite Stuff use the heating method as above using one 5 ml bottle and one gram of shattered and only heat to 160 to melt thc but not start decarboxilation,mix well suck back into bottle and put in any E cig its really easy and does not seperate it makes a nice light honey that taste great. I hope this helps I know i tried the wrong stuff alot. just search "The Rite Stuff " on E bay

Hey! I've tried several different solutions already, just wondering if The Rite Stuff hardens or separates after it cools? And what's the best way to get the mixture back into the bottle?

 

[Eric M]

Hey! I've tried several different solutions already, just wondering if The Rite Stuff hardens or separates after it cools? And what's the best way to get the mixture back into the bottle?

no it does not harden , i use a childrens medicine syringe with a tip from a turkey season injector(which comes with a big syringe at bed bath and beyond(not an ad, just is the best place to get a syringe without people looking at you like your a criminal) ,,from there you can use the bottle to fill e cig tank as needed, it goes a long way,, it is peg not ppg i do not know what weight peg it is but it dissolves shatter nice when heated. but try to keep the temp around 140 to 160 any hotter and the thc starts to decarboxilate (releases carbon and oxygen from thc-a, activates thc like for edibles) a little aint bad but too much at above 170 thc-a turns to cbn an cbd , happy vaping i dont even carry a lighter anymore

 

[Tampabean]

no it does not harden , i use a childrens medicine syringe with a tip from a turkey season injector(which comes with a big syringe at bed bath and beyond(not an ad, just is the best place to get a syringe without people looking at you like your a criminal) ,,from there you can use the bottle to fill e cig tank as needed, it goes a long way,, it is peg not ppg i do not know what weight peg it is but it dissolves shatter nice when heated. but try to keep the temp around 140 to 160 any hotter and the thc starts to decarboxilate (releases carbon and oxygen from thc-a, activates thc like for edibles) a little aint bad but too much at above 170 thc-a turns to cbn an cbd , happy vaping i dont even carry a lighter anymore

Right on! Thanks for the information. Think I'll give the Rite Stuff a shot. I'll let you know how it works out. Keep on vapin' on!

 

[Eric M]

Is there a reason people are leaning towards pg and not vg?
I assume it must not mix well.

So is it easier to control the hit.
Meaning is it a kinder gentler onset.

vg will not absorb enough of the good stuff and is pretty much just for added vapor cloud,, and peg works way better then ppg, nice clear, great tasting, strong,,,with the peg i found i use one 5ml bottle with 1 gram shattered. just melt the shattered in shot glass on coffee warmer ( i use a pic induction cook top myself at 140-160 ) and heat the peg in a shotglass next to the shatter then mix them real good suck up with a childs medicine syringe squirt back into bottle and fill my tanks, i puff it alot and it last a long time

 

[Grow Goddess]

i found the best way is to not put water in a pan, just put the shotglass on the coffee mug warmer,, i actually started using an induction cook top (PIC) and a candy thermometer touching the bottom of the pan with cook top set to 150 the shatter dissolves real nice in the rite stuff and is clear golden honey,,not like ppg which looks like a milkshake and clogs my wicks too fast

What the heck are you guys talking about?

First, what is ppg?

Why do you choose peg? Oh, by the way, The Rite Stuff, I would not recommend it. I would just go get PEG400 USP. Probably what The Rite Stuff is, but it doesn't say squat on the description, doesn't say how much you are getting. I highly doubt that The Rite Stuff is USP grade. Why do I say this? It looks to be rebottled. Once it is rebottled it is no longer considered to be USP grade for regulation reasons. PEG400 is what is used with e-ciggs or at least used to be used. It is considered an alternative to PG USP if one has allergic reactions to PG USP. It is considered a lower quality in the e-cigg world. Someone online that has been doing testing like me, reported back that eeh PEG400 worked almost as good as PG USP and he said what he didn't like the most about the PEG is it gave a bit of a burnt plastic taste. The PEG can hold the infusion longer than PG USP. PG USP has a nice sweet flavor to it. With my concentrates, when I mix with PG USP it holds together for up to 3 months. In a top fed clearomizer (e-Cigg) with a lot of wicking it will separate more quickly. The concentrate will stick to the wicks. This takes weeks in my case. I don't use top fed units with a bunch of wicking anymore anyway. I prefer the dual bottom coil units. Some have nearly no wicking so the infusion will hold together in the e-cigg for months with PG USP. AT least my concentrates do.

Heating it up to 150-160 degrees after adding PG USP or PEG? I would not do that. It will start to vaporize at those temps. I am pretty confident the PEG and PG USP lowers the decarbing temperatures. Not positive, but pretty confident. I try to keep my mixing temperatures below 150 degrees, but I do mix it really well.

Milkshake? With PG USP? Maybe somehow there was VG in there? I have never had my mixtures with PG USP turn to "milkshake" looking, but I am using RSO, QWISO, and QWET.


Below are all a mix of concentrate with PG USP. Depending on the lighting, it can look yellow golden to an amber hue.


Top Fed Clearomizer


an excerpt from an e-cigg oil shop.
"E-Liquid Bases
You can select Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerin (VG), PEG400, Best Mix I or Best Mix II as your E-Liquid base. Best Mix I is mixed with PG and VG and Best Mix II is mixed with VG and PEG400, for having the best smoking result. All our E-Liquid bases are made from only pharmaceutical grade without allergens. You may have a sensitivity to PG, so that VG, PEG400 or Best Mix II give you some healthier alternatives. We are using the highest quality of E-Liquid Bases to ensure your maximum safety."

I may give the PEG400 a try, but I am not expecting it to be better than the PG USP. You can even order the PEG400 with flavors.


I still haven't figured out what ppg is...