General Organics Nutrients

[Freedom35]

Ok so i have always used the general hydroponics organic line (general organics) and would like some input on what others that have used it think. now i have not used the diamond black and would like to know what you guys think of that as well. i am also a little confused about it because the feeding chart (not that i go by the feeding chart, but it is still some reference) says to only use it for the first 2 weeks yet the bottle says use when ever you want. so i would like to know when others are using it during their grow.
thanks again,
F35

 

[Banana444]

Most peeps in this forum dont use bottled nutes. Technically, bottled nutes are not considered to be true organic. Many people still use them in conjunction with other organic techniques, composting, teas, bim. Which is what I am working towards, I use minimal bottle nutes and hope to be off of them after a good summer of composting and gathering. Read a little, I am pretty sure there is a topic on the GO line that is on page 2 of the topics.

 

[May11th]

Banana your very correct. I been on this forum every day for the past year learning and getting to know many good growers and their tactics I been gardening for not very long and I have had the mind set of getting the top knotch organics possible. I've ran bottles including general organics, I then read their labels and studied teas and was like ugh cheaper/better= teas and you can source locally or copy ingredients from the best bottled nutes out. It's a lot of fun making teas. I'm saving a buck and then being able to use my leftover tea produce in a soil bin, that soil bin has a 3 inch thick microbe Web , general organics is like buying flat beer , diy teas are like getting it at the brewery.

 

[Banana444]

May 11th, you have no idea. Once it warms up outside I might forget about my indoor grow completely while playing in my vegetable garden. To do list this spring, build raised beds, ammend garden soil so no further tilling will be needed, build a bigger Aact brewer, use the method described in teaming with microbes to collect and see what bim I have or do not have in my garden and lawn, innoculate with bennies. Collect bim from a few locations I have been thinking about. Build a couple tumbler compost bins, start up another worm bin, the list goes on and on and has nothing to do with my canna cultivation, but it definitely wont hurt it any

 

[May11th]

Oh deff not. Get some worm bins going too. About 200 gallons worth lol. I have a lot of the same things going on as well. My raised beds will be 2.5 foot deep too, I'll use fabric along sides and bottoms . Plan to have them be 8 foot wide and 15 foot long, 2 of them. With all my leftover soil from 1.5 yrs. I'm starting fresh come may with nothing but cannacoco and homemade castings and other ingredients. So much to do but keep everyone happy you know. Organic gardening can become a major chore.

 

[tmacdagreat]

gh 3 week veg 2.5 oz plant lol i luv gh but i need to learn bout tea i wanna use it ?

 

[Freedom35]

sorry i didnt know that, and its my only option as of now. i live in chicago so all the homemade is kind of out of the question seeing as its basically all concrete around me lol

 

[Banana444]

I didnt say it wont get good, if not great results. I was just saying the guys on here running subcools super soil, collecting bim, making AACT with there fancy centrifugal brewers and doing there own worm bins are on another level that bottled products just cant achieve. If you go to page two, there are two threads on Genhydros general organic line.

 

[May11th]

Freedom. If you have a lake nearby, they usually are a host to many many things. I plan on doing alot of fishing and hiking this year and plan to start a journal up with every single thing I do. I want to try to collect as much experience first. Fail alot too. Trust me man, you have sources or can create them in your back yard if you have a Lil space. I can't wait till weather breaks, I'm about 8 hrs east of ya and I'm lucky enough to have multiple lakes near me ssi I can gather, kelp, shells, old dead fish, and try to find big healthy trees, collect the rich soil around their trunks. It's infested with biology that will kick startoorganics

 

[st0wandgrow]

sorry i didnt know that, and its my only option as of now. i live in chicago so all the homemade is kind of out of the question seeing as its basically all concrete around me lol

May already mentioned it, but it needs to be repeated. START A WORM BIN!! It can be as small as a 15 gallon rubbermaid tote. You can order the worms online at Uncle Jims Worms. He's running a special right now for 2,000 red wigglers. The source of compost that you use for your soil is the most important aspect of your grow. You can even just buy a bag of Fox Farms soil (or many other kinds) and amend it with some worm castings and an all purpose organic fertilizer like an Espoma Tone product. You could take something like a bag of Fox Farms Ocean Forest (1.5 cf) and add to that .75cf of EWC, and .75cf of aeration material (pumice, rice hulls, perlite, etc), throw in a couple cups of Espoma Garden Tone, let it sit for 6 weeks, and you would have yourself a kick-ass soil that you could use water only on. No need for any bottles.

Living in a city does not limit you. Give it a whirl...

 

[May11th]

Stow, ya da man. Very right. I'm actually trying a mix right now with espoma bio-tone plus and will try it out soon. He'll I have soon many soil varieties to try and they are all working quite well. You can buy big as 40 lb bags of espoma and something get the good for under 1$/ per lb. Can't beat that.

 

[Freedom35]

ill see what i can do guys! thanks for giving me some insite cause ive wanted to do true organics but didnt think i could really pull it off being in the city. but this gives me a bit of confidence to give it a try!

 

[May11th]

Hell yeah freedom. Don't sweat it. Just takes some work but man the buds really are a ton better trust me, I've drove many different roads in the past year and so far my favorite is organic super coco and simple organic teas, I find it to suit me. Right now I'm getting it all dialed in as rolliup takes forever to fix my image uploader.

 

[Freedom35]

Thanks man ill look into that and try what ur doin, i mean i guess i live right next to lake Michigan theres gotta be some good stuff around there haha

 

[Banana444]

All you need to do is find a good garden and feed store, they will have what you need. I am going to try subs super soil on my next round of flowering. I already have soil cooking but I need a couple things. Also if you decide to do the worm bin thing. There are bait shops in your area where you can find red wigglers, but not until it warms up a bit. They dont ussually stock them in the winter.

 

[greenlikemoney]

Back to his original question, I've used the GO go-box line many times in the past and was never disappointed with my results. I threw the black diamond into the mix the last 4-5 weeks and added molasses the last 3 weeks. I also used a banana tea towards the end in place of straight h20 on no nute feeding days. Never had any bad side effects although my strain was a phosphorous whore, those bitches couldn't get enough.