Legalization - Will you keep growing?

FiatLuxLab

FiatLuxLab

New Member
Read this article today and there's a lot of serious companies starting to invest in cannabis.
So here's a hypothetical situation:

1. Marijuana production and sale are legalized universally across the US
2. Big companies start producing high quality bud for very competitive prices
3. It becomes very convenient to acquire bud, much like how you could go buy a 6-pack of beer, or visit a bar for drinks.

Will you keep growing if you can conveniently buy top-quality bud on the cheap? At what pricepoint will you and others start abandoning production because it is no longer worthwhile?

Feel free to add comments, or talk about why/why not
 
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Wilksey

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I'll keep growing my own as it gives me an excuse to grow hot peppers, maters', and other such plants.

Plus, after what big companies did to tobacco, I don't TRUST those motherfuckers. I'll bet those bastards try to genetically alter our beloved cannabis plant in some way for profit$, not to mention the fucked up chemical shit they'll throw on it...
 
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churchhaze

Well-Known Member
Yes, because of high taxes and onerous regulations that will likely go along with it's becoming legal. I won't stop growing until weed is actually free. When I say free, I mean free as in free speech, not free beer. Until it's sold like strawberries and tomatoes, it will still make sense to grow your own.

What's being setup now is legal government regulated drug cartels where only big guys will be allowed to grow as much as they want, with as many plants as they want. (SOG)

They could even start regulating THC levels, flowering times, whether you have to flush or not, etc. In that case, it might be "legal", but still very restrictive.

FiatLuxLab said:
Read this article today and there's a lot of serious companies starting to invest in cannabis.
So here's a hypothetical situation:

1. Marijuana production and sale are legalized universally across the US
2. Big companies start producing high quality bud for very competitive prices
3. It becomes very convenient to acquire bud, much like how you could go buy a 6-pack of beer, or visit a bar for drinks.

Will you keep growing if you can conveniently buy top-quality bud on the cheap? At what pricepoint will you and others start abandoning production because it is no longer worthwhile?

Feel free to add comments, or talk about why/why not
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TheWifeOfASmoker

TheWifeOfASmoker

Active Member
This is much like home cooking vs. take out.

Not that take out isn't nice every once in a while.

I prefer home cooked....or home grown.
I know what it really is, and I know exactly what went into it.

I garden (multiple things) because I enjoy it.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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my indoor costs me 37¢ per gram including all yearly costs.. we sell expensively say $20 ag cause we have bills to pay (I don't sell my weed usually and when I do at brick prices) but they charge so much to be able to make a decent amount off the relatively little product being pumped out...about an acre can support a thousand plants if slightly tight.. outdoors it costs much less than my 37¢ per gram.. but what if I could produce 5lbs off one plant. 5lbs per plant at a dollar a gram is $2,240.....it costs an outdoor grower much less than 30 cents per gram..but I'll use it for simplicity and also because if I was growing indica and able to throw an extra harvest per year I could cut my 37¢per gram by 9¢(my indoor crop including all yearly spending is 37cents growing landrace sativas not maximizing my shit) And before i grew indoors I grew year round in west tx so I know its possible....this means that this same profit could be seen off commercial indoor grows ;)

So that leaves me with $1568in profit per plant..... ...1,568 could be cut to- paying for trimming at $500 per plant...$1,000x1,000plants .........so a million dollar profit off potentially 2 acres or just under at $1 per gram...so you see how scale effects prices...of course depending on how greedy you are ..I am eagerly waiting for texas to go legal as I'm sitting on 10's of thousands of acres. Farming is huge out here and I expect local "farmers markets" of weed to be somewhat profitable but like everything else in the world it will be dominated by those able to produce quality product and have the pockets to pump it out. Now this will drive the market and companies to diversify themselves. I imagine curing practices and flavors etc to become marketing strategies and we may see huge advancements in cannabis cultivation like we have with tobacco or other produce

I'll be happy receiving ¢50 profit per gram... and could easily become rich at that price point
 
brodietheconeking

brodietheconeking

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qwizoking said:
my indoor costs me 37¢ per gram including all yearly costs.. we sell expensively say $20 ag cause we have bills to pay (I don't sell my weed usually and when I do at brick prices) but they charge so much to be able to make a decent amount off the relatively little product being pumped out...about an acre can support a thousand plants if slightly tight.. outdoors it costs much less than my 37¢ per gram.. but what if I could produce 5lbs off one plant. 5lbs per plant at a dollar a gram is $2,240.....it costs an outdoor grower much less than 30 cents per gram..but I'll use it for simplicity and also because if I was growing indica and able to throw an extra harvest per year I could cut my 37¢per gram by 9¢(my indoor crop including all yearly spending is 37cents growing landrace sativas not maximizing my shit) And before i grew indoors I grew year round in west tx so I know its possible....this means that this same profit could be seen off commercial indoor grows ;)

So that leaves me with $1568in profit per plant..... ...1,568 could be cut to- paying for trimming at $500 per plant...$1,000x1,000plants .........so a million dollar profit off potentially 2 acres or just under at $1 per gram...so you see how scale effects prices...of course depending on how greedy you are ..I am eagerly waiting for texas to go legal as I'm sitting on 10's of thousands of acres. Farming is huge out here and I expect local "farmers markets" of weed to be somewhat profitable but like everything else in the world it will be dominated by those able to produce quality product and have the pockets to pump it out. Now this will drive the market and companies to diversify themselves. I imagine curing practices and flavors etc to become marketing strategies and we may see huge advancements in cannabis cultivation like we have with tobacco or other produce

I'll be happy receiving ¢50 profit per gram... and could easily become rich at that price point
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shit man,dont tell me you did this stoned
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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It will be about the little guy producing something different, for niche markets.

Weed lovers are the worst/best people on earth for wanting something unusual.
Like people who love wine or cheese.
Being able to go to the supermarket and buy bottles of mass produced, perfectly acceptable wine
isn't good enough for many.
They will travel great distances to be one of the few people who can obtain the highly sort after wines
produced by the smaller vineyards.
Just a thousand bottles or so.
It's rarity adds to it's demand.

I don't think most weed lovers will be content to buy mass produced
uniformly packaged amounts.
 
MydogCody

MydogCody

Member
FiatLuxLab said:
Read this article today and there's a lot of serious companies starting to invest in cannabis.
So here's a hypothetical situation:

1. Marijuana production and sale are legalized universally across the US
2. Big companies start producing high quality bud for very competitive prices
3. It becomes very convenient to acquire bud, much like how you could go buy a 6-pack of beer, or visit a bar for drinks.

Will you keep growing if you can conveniently buy top-quality bud on the cheap? At what pricepoint will you and others start abandoning production because it is no longer worthwhile?

Feel free to add comments, or talk about why/why not
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I definitely will because I love gardening and do it as a hobby as well as the buds. Also, unlike the laws of nature, man made laws are not unchanging. We growers need to be good stewards of the genetics out there so that when Mr/Mrs Bringdown comes along and changes the law, we will have the seeds to keep growing. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!

They will never be as cheap as what you can grow yourself. Plus, I can buy a tomato at the store, but I don't because I can grow tomatoes at home and know what goes into them. Its about peace of mind.
 
Haystack

Haystack

Member
NorthofEngland said:
It will be about the little guy producing something different, for niche markets.

Weed lovers are the worst/best people on earth for wanting something unusual.
Like people who love wine or cheese.
Being able to go to the supermarket and buy bottles of mass produced, perfectly acceptable wine
isn't good enough for many.
They will travel great distances to be one of the few people who can obtain the highly sort after wines
produced by the smaller vineyards.
Just a thousand bottles or so.
It's rarity adds to it's demand.

I don't think most weed lovers will be content to buy mass produced
uniformly packaged amounts.
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Amen, and well said...
 
ilyaas123

ilyaas123

Well-Known Member
I'd grow no matter what; if I got busted, once I get out then I'll start all over again. Here is a quote I may have made up: 'No one person can stop a plant from growing and shall not succeed in such intentions' good huh?
 
Ck1

Ck1

Member
This is something I've wanted to speak on for a while. Everybody worries about the corporate take over. I say bring it on! Big companies are not going to be able to produce my level of quality pot. They couldn't hire enough truly talented growers to produce that level, mostly because we're all against the fucking corporation! Weed is grown commercially now and it's not the same fucking quality because you can't take care of a twenty acre field like you need to. Males will slip by, just like now, everything will be the same. The only difference is that ditch weed will disappear thank god. But packs of joints in a convenience store I'm not worried about. Plants have to be loved and cared for to get this good. Every true pothead, even those who still only smoke shitty swag in this day and age because they "can't afford that other shit" wil still want to lay eyes, hands, and nose upon what their smoking. Is there a market for commercial pot? Sure, just like there is now, but just like your alcohol analogy don't forget the rarest most expensive alcohols and wines come from small places and people who really care about what they do. There will be a market for me too!!
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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Haystack said:
Amen, and well said...
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I hope I'm right....?
The idea of buying weed from vending machines
in branded packets
with Logo's designed by advertising and marketing professionals....
Sounds like a little slice of hell, to me.

Cannabis isn't just about the THC content.
It's the glue that holds together a sub-culture,
all of its own.
 
ilyaas123

ilyaas123

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charface said:
I love growing wayyyyy nore than smoking. And thats all I have to say about that.
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It's probably the same with every grower: 'Love what you do, for it is what you decide' hah another quote. Growers get a kick out of growing even if the do not succeed 'A single person may have to try over and over again but with patience comes success' Wow. I think I should add quotes to a quoted reply all the time :D - BTW These quotes are original and made up in about 5 seconds.
 
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