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it tastes like crap :(

forest42

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so i got my first harvest here
it looks nice, it smokes ok, it is maybe one of the strongest i have had, but it tastes like a plant. it has a very strong crazy smell it's almost like taking a bigg whiff of some serious alcohol (drinking alcohol) but not like anything i ever really smelled
it was trimmed and hung to dry for a few days until it was dry but the stem was still bendy.
then put into glass jars and burped (opened) them a few times a day. well i have been picking at it a little here and there. and it tastes terrible. i thought it was just to early and it was going to get better but it docent seem to be. i ordered some Cvaults and they came yesterday. when i put it in the vaults i tried bending the stem and it snapped and it seemed very dry. today it is not as dry but still grassy tasting. i and i read more than once drying to fast makes it smell like hay, i know it hasn't been that long but it has been in the jars for 10 days. seems to me it should be better than this.

other info, its BC god, used technafloras recipe for success. it is very dry here now, thats just the way it is here this time of year and there is not much you can do about it. thats why i ordered the cvaults. (i do realize now that the little packet inside is made by entirely someone else and i paid way to much for some SS bowls with airtight lids... there nice, whatever )

is it to late to make it any better?
 

qwizoking

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the cure is important and the fowl taste associated with not flushing is simply a poor cure..a harsh hot acrid taste is from burning starches and chlorophyll....also associated with newbs overfeeding making the cure that much harder..keeping the plant moist enough to stay alive and still maintain gass transfer..through this natural process of hydrolysis and respiration the components are broken down and becomes smooth..this process is known as the cure

Night and day difference in curing ..
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner high/taste
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a lower ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn



I typically dry 10-14 days at or just below 70°…i do this till the outside of the leaves get dry. Jar then maintain as close to 60% humidity as possible..to do this get a mason jar lid that reads humidity..burp or empty jars to air if necessary

Optimum cure length is 4 months...smoke able/sell able after 3 weeks curing
 

Merlin34

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Unfortunately there's not much you can do. I don't see anything drastically wrong with what you did. Mine usually takes a week or two before it gains its final scent, and even that changes slowly the longer you cure. If its bone dry though there's not much you can do. So just keep burping away if its not bone dry and perhaps it will improve.

Sent from Northern Colorado.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
the cure is important and the fowl taste associated with not flushing is simply a poor cure..a harsh hot acrid taste is from burning starches and chlorophyll....also associated with newbs overfeeding making the cure that much harder..keeping the plant moist enough to stay alive and still maintain gass transfer..through this natural process of hydrolysis and respiration the components are broken down and becomes smooth..this process is known as the cure

Night and day difference in curing ..
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner high/taste
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a higher ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn



I typically dry 10-14 days at or just below 70°…i do this till the outside of the leaves get dry. Jar then maintain as close to 60% humidity as possible..to do this get a mason jar lid that reads humidity..burp or empty jars to air if necessary

Optimum cure length is 4 months
hey qwizo, quick question for you m8, do you trim before or after the dry? ty.. :D
 

qwizoking

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Well I look at like a clone sort of... just because its cut doesn't mean its dead, this is the basis of the cure..now if you take a clone, like a regular live plant the fan leaves go yellow first..so in my mind the cure is quicker/more effective if you remove those fan leaves first. Lowering chlorophyll content in the bud is what we are after (I mean and everything else I said but you get the idea)
Some will say that leaving them on keeps up moisture levels and a longer dry is better. I feel that the longer dry isn't as necessary without the fan leaves..I also have lower temps than most-high 60's which slows the water loss..

Do I have anything to back this up.....no
But I know when I started out my bud tasted like crap and smelled of tea or hay (I already grow low odor Sativas).I slowly altered my methods through trial and error...this is where I am now and my bud taste pretty damn good imo
Should also say that when I started there was no rollitup to help me! Lol good luck forest

I don't fully trim though.. just remove large leaves that I can cut the stem. Snipping all those sugar leaves in half during the trim isn't helpful to the cure imo, it dries out much too fast at that point
 

Dogenzengi

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Take it put and put it all in a brown paper bag, fold up the top.
check it for smell every day, keep the bag in the dark with a low Humidity.
70 degrees 65% till almost dry then 60% till dry completely.
2-3 days if you only check once a day, take a big whiff a deep smell will let you tell the depletion of chlorophyll and other things as described by our resident scholar QuizoKing.
once dry put in jars, wait 3 days for first burp.
burp every other day one time for 5-10 minutes depending on your homes RH.
after 10 days burp every 3rd day for the same time frame.
For another 9-12 days and it should be cured pretty well.
I think we all want to rush our first plant, as a result we over feed, overwater, dry wrong and cure wrong.

I prefer to trim my buds first, it makes the hang a little quicker but not much.

I still go by snapping stem ( but not breaking! ) to determine dryness of each bud.

also if it's over dry you can you Boveda 62% RH packets to raise the moisture content in a jar.
 

Gmz

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The humidty around here is only about 25%, this last ounce I got was pretty dry and didn't have much a smell. I decided I'd try out a boveda 62 while I wait for the plants to finish, I left it in there for 3 days and the difference was actually quite surprising. What was once pretty bone dry bud had regained it's moisture and smell, the smell when I first opened the jar was kind of overwhelming, very sour berry wet smell but once it dried out a little bit it retained a very sweet berry smell that was much more smooth and enjoyable then when I first bought it. When it was ground up the first time the ground bud was really like dusty texture, out of the jar ground up it was nice and fluffy and kinda stuck together when picked up.

I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe you should try bovedas :p
 

oldfogey8

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all is not lost dude. give it time to cure. my first harvest tasted pretty lousy at first. i didn't flush. i didn't dry it properly. if it was possible to fuck something up, i did it. i used 'the perfect cure every time' that i found on here and now i have a bunch of nice smokable bud. it does not taste like hash or anything awesome but it tastes pretty good. like the dogenzengi above said, you can get boveda packs at grow stores if your buds are too dry. give it time and you will be ok. next grow you will have more experience and it will be smoother all around.
 

forest42

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i did get the bovedas with the Cvault so i guess i just wait and see.

i didn't flush to good because someone said not to do it all. i did the couple days of dark too, i bet that was dumb.

so more waiting... if you can get good at waiting i bet you can be a master

 

hammco2

Active Member
strain has alot to do with it and not just the strain but seed quality if thats your thing. How good of a cut it was and from what Mother if clones is your thing. But Poo Poo pot tastes and smells like Poo Poo sorry
 

BWG707

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I've noticed that harvesting too early can leave buds smelling and tasting pretty bad. Also like others have said a longer cure might help you. My buds really starting smelling noticeably better after 6 to 8 weeks. Even better now at 4months. Wait it out you still have a chance. Boveda packs have worked well for me also.
 
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