we're all gonna die!!!!!!

outrunu

outrunu

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PoseidonsNet said:
its not that the experiment is nec dangerous, any experiment can be safe

its that the people who are doing it at this point in time, clearly do
not have there priorities straight,

thus

how can we trust their judgement?

and once a black hole exists, it just sucks in everything round it, getting bigger and black and MEANER AND NASTIER.

never heard of a black hole dying out before.

why should it?

and how can they possibly know?

its like playing russian roulette without knowing how many bullets are in the gun, and without anything to win on the fucking table.

LUNAFUCKINGTIC GERMAN NAZI SWEINHUNDE

WE'RE ALL GOING TO

DDDDDIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!
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Evaporation

If Hawking's theory of black hole radiation is correct then black holes are expected to emit a thermal spectrum of radiation, and thereby lose mass, because according to Einstein's Theory of Relativity mass is just highly condensed energy (e = mc2).[21] Black holes will thus shrink and evaporate over time. The temperature of this spectrum (Hawking temperature) is proportional to the surface gravity of the black hole, which in turn is inversely proportional to the mass. Large black holes thus emit less radiation than small black holes.
A stellar black hole of 5 solar masses has a Hawking temperature of about 12 nanoKelvin. This is far less than the 2.7 K produced by the Cosmic microwave background. Stellar mass (and larger) black holes thus receive more mass from the CMB than they emit through Hawking radiation and will thus grow instead of shrink. In order to have a Hawking temperature larger than 2.7 K (and thus be able to evaporate) a black hole needs to be lighter than the Moon (and thus have diameter of less than a tenth of a millimeter).
On the other hand if a black hole is very small the radiation effects are expected to become very strong. Even a black hole that is heavy compared to a human would evaporate in an instant. A black hole the weight of a car (~ 10-24 m) would only take a nanosecond to evaporate, during which time it would briefly have a luminosity more than 200 times that of the sun. Lighter black holes are expected to evaporate even faster, for example a black hole of mass 1 TeV/c2 would less than 10-88 seconds to evaporate completely. Of course, for such a small black hole quantum gravitation effects are expected to play an important role and could even —although current developments in quantum gravity do not indicate so— hypothetically make such a small black holes stable.



from wikipedia, but Stephen Hawking and Einstein have a little more credibility with me
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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Hmmmm...... Very interesting. I'll have to read about it later. I love science:mrgreen:

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ToastedFox

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Yeah.. and I'm a little more trusting of the Einstein or Hawking then I am of most of the random people online.
 
The Stig

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PoseidonsNet

PoseidonsNet

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If Hawking's theory of black hole radiation is correct then black holes are expected to emit a thermal spectrum of radiation, and thereby lose mass, because according to Einstein's Theory of Relativity mass is just highly condensed energy (e = mc2).[21] Black holes will thus shrink and evaporate over time. The temperature of this spectrum (Hawking temperature) is proportional to the surface gravity of the black hole, which in turn is inversely proportional to the mass. Large black holes thus emit less radiation than small black holes.
A stellar black hole of 5 solar masses has a Hawking temperature of about 12 nanoKelvin. This is far less than the 2.7 K produced by the Cosmic microwave background. Stellar mass (and larger) black holes thus receive more mass from the CMB than they emit through Hawking radiation and will thus grow instead of shrink. In order to have a Hawking temperature larger than 2.7 K (and thus be able to evaporate) a black hole needs to be lighter than the Moon (and thus have diameter of less than a tenth of a millimeter).
On the other hand if a black hole is very small the radiation effects are expected to become very strong. Even a black hole that is heavy compared to a human would evaporate in an instant. A black hole the weight of a car (~ 10-24 m) would only take a nanosecond to evaporate, during which time it would briefly have a luminosity more than 200 times that of the sun. Lighter black holes are expected to evaporate even faster, for example a black hole of mass 1 TeV/c2 would less than 10-88 seconds to evaporate completely. Of course, for such a small black hole quantum gravitation effects are expected to play an important role and could even —although current developments in quantum gravity do not indicate so— hypothetically make such a small black holes stable.
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that article has too many contradictions

firstly a black hole is defined as having a superstrong gravity - IE it sucks things in.

so they say if its smaller than 10mm its won't suck things in, it will emit stuff out.
well then its not a black hole is it?

but a theory is a theory and its easy to miss one or two variables
when all u have is a theory.

how can it be worth the risk, even if the risk is just 1%?
its just a money making sham
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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PoseidonsNet said:
that article has too many contradictions

firstly a black hole is defined as having a superstrong gravity - IE it sucks things in.

so they say if its smaller than 10mm its won't suck things in, it will emit stuff out.
well then its not a black hole is it?

but a theory is a theory and its easy to miss one or two variables
when all u have is a theory.

how can it be worth the risk, even if the risk is just 1%?
its just a money making sham
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A black hole that emits stuff out? Sounds like we would be harvesting matter from our parallel universe, or something :?.. A black hole that spits stuff out :confused: is not a black hole that I know exists in this universe. So, how is that possible?

Good points PosNet. HMMMM...

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shamegame

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We TaRdED said:
A black hole that emits stuff out? Sounds like we would be harvesting matter from our parallel universe, or something :?.. A black hole that spits stuff out :confused: is not a black hole that I know exists in this universe. So, how is that possible?

Good points PosNet. HMMMM...

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Sigh. Here is the short version of what goes on with a black hole. The black hole of course absorbs all matter and some forms of energy within it's gravitational pull. As the black hole absorbs matter it also emits a beam of powerful radiation. These beams can travel many light years, affecting neighboring galaxies in it's path..
 
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PoseidonsNet

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These beams can travel many light years, affecting neighboring galaxies in it's path..
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scary

it still scares me more than Iran for instance.
and the money could be speant combatting people trafficking,
corruption in the courts
famine
war
disease
etc

and its still a game of russian roullette, without knowing how many bullets are in the gun, without reward, o and if it does go off, its aimed at the whole rest of the world.

sigh

but hey,
Dawkins says its cool, so who cares about childrape? A trivial issue by comparison?

And as to Dawkins' credibility : he spends his whole life studying 'black holes', but never his own neuron disease? Very illogical. Emotionally weak.

His brief history of time says nothing new, and nothing that can improve the lives of anyone, except him and his buddies.

And all those 'scientists' over there consider every single one of you to be beneath the level of human rights bcos you smoke pot,

And Einstein is not infallible as the Einstein Podolsky Rosen experiment
proved that relativity does not exist below the atomic level.

bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~suchii/Bohr/EPR '

keep it coming ...

i'm still just warming up
 
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shamegame

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Just think...when American scientists detonated the first atomic bomb as a test, they were not sure if the chain reaction would stop at some point or destroy the whole universe. Mathematics showed them that they probably wouldn't destroy everything in exsistence...but they wouldn't know until they pressed the button.
 
nowstopwhining

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
shamegame said:
Just think...when American scientists detonated the first atomic bomb as a test, they were not sure if the chain reaction would stop at some point or destroy the whole universe. Mathematics showed them that they probably wouldn't destroy everything in exsistence...but they wouldn't know until they pressed the button.
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quite playin games with my life....with my liiifffeee
 
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