Is there harm in having unfulfillable expectations?

Metasynth

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Have you ever felt like you've been in one of those kinds of relationships?
No. I feel like they've all had a pretty good grasp on reality. Though, I've mainly had long term relationships, one of 7 years, and my current one is 4 and a half years long so far.
 

Padawanbater2

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No. I feel like they've all had a pretty good grasp on reality. Though, I've mainly had long term relationships, one of 7 years, and my current one is 4 and a half years long so far.
Never been in a relationship where I felt she had a "good grasp on reality", though you might mark that up to being young, I think my last gf was 22-23 at the time..


I envision a healthy relationship being something mutual, where I can be in one room doing one thing and she can be in another room doing something else.. This is how adolescent my relationships have been.. Each woman I've been with has always constantly had to be doing the same thing as me.. at the same time.. None of them have ever seemingly understood the concept of INDEPENDENCE.. I actually had one chick ask me one time "Are you done?" after she watched a movie and I was drawing.

These bullshit movies, songs, and stereotypes enable this sort of bullshit behavior, imo
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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I think kids would be better off with tough love growing up.None of the current day coddle antics that parents raise their children on is going to help them in life.Its a tough world and if you raise a marshmellow so to speak,then you have a kid who grows up to bend at anything he or she is told and is highly malleable to the influence of others actions,there will be no true thought process for themselves to have,no true logic or code of conduct to live by which gives integrity to an individual IMO.It will be all about the latest fads and trends in place of common sense and the ever so gullible spur of the moment attitude to cause trouble for others because its fun and cool and they saw it on jersey shore.I think that it has reflected itself onto society as we know it and are we better off with the youngsters perceiving the world in this monocle of naivity and entitlement?I think not.They need exposure to realism to form correct judgement in their own lives and a balance to perspective so as to not have unwieldy expectations.My 2 cents....
 

Padawanbater2

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I think kids would be better off with tough love growing up.None of the current day coddle antics that parents raise their children on is going to help them in life.Its a tough world and if you raise a marshmellow so to speak,then you have a kid who grows up to bend at anything he or she is told and is highly malleable to the influence of others actions,there will be no true thought process for themselves to have,no true logic or code of conduct to live by which gives integrity to an individual IMO.It will be all about the latest fads and trends in place of common sense and the ever so gullible spur of the moment attitude to cause trouble for others because its fun and cool and they saw it on jersey shore.I think that it has reflected itself onto society as we know it and are we better off with the youngsters perceiving the world in this monocle of naivity and entitlement?I think not.They need exposure to realism to form correct judgement in their own lives and a balance to perspective so as to not have unwieldy expectations.My 2 cents....
Please be my grandfather
 

Padawanbater2

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I just watched "Can't Hardly Wait"

There's a scene in that movie where the main guy is sitting there talking about how great this girl is (who he has never spoken to), saying bullshit like "She's more than the homecoming queen", "There's a really amazing person inside of her that no one even bothers to see", "I just want her to know how great she is, she should just give me a chance..". High school kids watching this bullshit believe they should think this way. It's why things like proms are such scams.

Jesus, every facet of western society is built upon bullshit like this, a false impression of the way reality should be according to pent up conservative morality.
 

TibetanBowl

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This is something I think affects us all growing up. The things we see throughout society in the media and in film tend to create these situations on TV and in movies that aren't actually real in real life, that none of us actually experience. The whole prince charming fantasy little girls grow up with watching Disney movies, even to a certain extent monogamous marriage. After reviewing the rates of divorce, how could anyone argue it's not a fantasy?

Do you think these fictional portrayals of relationships in pop culture, the media and society do more harm than good, or do you think, in some aspect, they give us something to strive for?
its a system doomed to fail, even "success" leads to failure, take that douche justin bieber for instance, how many friends do you think he actually has? (not members of his staff/security he has to pay to keep around or his "bros" leeching off of his fame and money) the way society and success is made up is to watch people break and fall under a load they cannot carry. eventually their bubble pops and they start seeing things for what they really are, stop wanting to play the game, maybe drum back their expectations and focus on what really matters to them at the end of the day, otherwise they're just left miserable all the damn time.

also, wanna see the reality of setting high, unreal expectations? watch 30/30: Broke on ESPN.

"you can win the rat race, but you're still a rat" - charles bukowski
"the world won't break your heart, it'll crush it" - henry rollins
 

Wilksey

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Do you think these fictional portrayals of relationships in pop culture, the media and society do more harm than good, or do you think, in some aspect, they give us something to strive for?
The media-entertainment industry is indeed responsible for attempting to portray the abnormal as normal. Sadly, when those that prescribe to the abnormal encounter the rest of us that don't buy into the bullshit, friction develops as a result due to poor communication. This creates unnecessary strife and division in our society.

Some examples include firearms, gays, chicks in any number of career fields they have no business being in, global warming, war, the budget, spending, and any number of political and social issues that are completely out of touch with the reality of the situation.

Fortunately, the majority of citizens can see through these veiled attempts at defining reality, however, most are too apathetic to do anything about it other than rant from time to time.
 
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