UncleBuck
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like twostroke would even get the joke.
Gay wedding cakes and the bigots who won't bake them.
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twostrokenut
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twostrokenut
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That sir, will have to reside in imagination.
twostrokenut
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No I do things and stuff other than this actually.
Sexual orientation is an individual right....that should enjoy first class constitutional backing as per the bill of rights....that's my official view of it, which you already know or should by now.
Please continue derp, need more derp.
Under existing law they should certainly be compelled to comply because Title II prohibits discrimination based on religion in places of public accommodation. The protections cut both ways. A gay photographer might be appalled at having to photograph a conservative religious wedding, but too bad.
As a practical matter the government isn't actually going to compel anyone to do anything. They're always free to refuse, even if it does subject them to some kind of legal liability. That liability seems a fair price for refusing service to a certain customer when society has judged that impermissible.
The better question is why a couple would want a photographer who was so uncomfortable to shoot their wedding--presumably one of the most important days of their lives--or why Westboro would want to buy fag cakes from fag bakers.
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Even if there isn't a biological basis that doesn't make it a choice. If you're born to English-speaking parents in an English-speaking country, you have no choice but to learn English, even though that choice wasn't fixed by biology or at birth.
Take creed and sex out under federal law. The only impermissible bases there are race, color, national origin, and religion, which is why hate groups have no protection from discrimination in public accommodations.
heckler73
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I actually thought only Doer (or maybe Tyler Durden) would get that one.
I was just considering the derivative, too.
dy/dx = 1/(x-15)^(-1/2)
It's all over for the women by the time they're ~25. At that point, they're only getting a guy every 3 years.
If one figures they go through the 12-18 month 'lust' cycle, that means up to 2 years of loneliness is the result before the next Mr. Wrong comes along.
What terrible abuse of math!
It's borderline misogyny
There is a lot of evidence out there to suggest that black people have a lower average intelligence. But I will say the point is debatable.
What is not debatable, is that they are human beings, and each individual of the group is capable of being as smart as anyone else. And that they deserve completely equal societal standing and legal protections. You seem to think I am incapable of actually meaning that.
The opposite of inferior is superior, but just because I said that does not hold that I believe whites are superior to all, which is what a white supremacist believes. I do not.
Sexual orientation is not a civil right. The federal government decides what is and what is not a civil right, and as of now the federal government has not decided to say that it is, so it isn't.
We can argue about if it should be, but we can't say it is.
I have complex views on subjects, I'm not a simpleton like you.
So I will admit, that one day I might believe that it should be a civil right, and other days I might believe that it should not. Each time I am being honest and genuine in my convictions.
I would go so far to say this, if I was forced to be nailed down on the issue, and state a position I felt comfortable with never abandoning, I would say that it is deserving of civil right status, but a new level of civil rights ought to be created.
Being gay in my mind does not warrant the same level of protection as being black, for instance. Most of the time, you cannot look at someone and tell they are gay, the same cannot be said of being black.
This means that someone needs to be engaged in some sort of homosexual activity in order to be outted.
If a black man walks into your diner, you know he is black when he walks into the door. He should allowed to enter, and the diner ought to be required to serve him.
If two dudes walk into the same diner, it is often impossible to tell if they are gay. I think the diner might should be allowed to reserve the right to allow homosexuals, but prohibit homosexual activity. In other words, they two dudes can eat there, but you can refuse to serve them one milkshake with two straws, if you get what I'm saying... If not, I think a place should be allowed to disallow public displayes of affection, no kissy kissy.
This is for many reasons. It is perfectly reasonable that observation of homosexual activity can make others offended, and parents should be able to go out to dinner, without having to explain to their 5 year old why two guys are kissing.
Same on the job. If you find out an employee is gay, tough shit, can't fire him for that alone. But if you have a gay employee who is coming to work and making out with his boyfriend in front of customers (who can get offended) then you can terminate them. This very often applies to straight couples also.
GOD HERE
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A right winger using a socialist's picture to call someone a retard... Priceless.
twostrokenut
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Right wing? Nope. Upper middle.
UncleBuck
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i was only barely smart enough to get the reference to i.
I actually thought only Doer (or maybe Tyler Durden) would get that one.
I was just considering the derivative, too.
dy/dx = 1/(x-15)^(-1/2)
It's all over for the women by the time they're ~25. At that point, they're only getting a guy every 3 years.
If one figures they go through the 12-18 month 'lust' cycle, that means up to 2 years of loneliness is the result before the next Mr. Wrong comes along.
What terrible abuse of math!
It's borderline misogyny
so let's see if i even know how to derivative it. an integral is multiply the number/function by the floating number (^2, ^3), and reduce the floating number by one. so x^2 = 2x^1 = 2x. so an integral is, ummm, nevermind. i have no idea. ot even sure i have integral and derivative right.
damn, has it really been that long since i was doing multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and the like? apparently it has.
what do they even use this stuff for?
Padawanbater2
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LOL!!
Same thing for heterosexuals? If a straight man and woman are kissing each other during lunch, should a business owner have the right to not serve them/kick them out?
What gives them that "right"?
heckler73
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Mostly for making circles into squares,i was only barely smart enough to get the reference to i.
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damn, has it really been that long since i was doing multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and the like? apparently it has.
what do they even use this stuff for?
and triangles out of meadow muffins.
That's about it, really.
Oh, and solving the mystery of "how fast was the drunk driver going before applying the brakes?"
Padawanbater2
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"American values and basic decency" don't seem to dictate heterosexual public displays of affection, why should they dictate homosexual ones?
Nutes and Nugs
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It's like bars or any other business.
If repeated drunks, criminals, hecklers come in and demand business, you have the "right" to refuse them.
It's a right not to NOT serve whomever you don't want if you own a business.
Some people suck but we alway give you a chance.
Abuse that 'chance' two three times and we won't serve you anymore.
heckler73
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Does that mean it's a right to (-1*-1=1) serve whomever I don't want?
So the people I do want to serve should not get served?
Why did Dr. Evil need ransom money if he had all of that shit and employees in the first place?
The guy was clearly loaded. He had a custom submarine FFS! And all those Fem-Bots.
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