When does flowering actually begin?

Aeroknow

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not re invent the wheel, you have just come across someone who actually knows what they are talking about......
Now, just accept the fact that the majority have always considered flowering to begin(indoor) when we initiate it. 12/12 flip = flowering phase has begun. Mmmmmkay

Don't try and act like you didn't know what I was saying. Evidentally Greatwhite didn't though, as he jumped in late.

Well,
Time for me to get on up, sip on some coffee, and start trimming on some of my bunk Cali weed(wifi today)
 

BSD0621

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What is a cannabis flower? Yes, so, that is when flowering starts. As buds start forming. That is the technical. But most noobs state weeks of flowering by the time the flip to 12/12, which is technically inaccurate but very common. I do the same too but I add 2-3 weeks from when I flip to 12/12. Outdoors, I wait until I see flower clusters forming then start saying week X in flowering. But, as always, you need to watch for signs the plant is ready for harvest instead of counting day's from the 12/12 flip or else you a pre harvesting and loosing out...
 

Aeroknow

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What is a cannabis flower? Yes, so, that is when flowering starts. As buds start forming. That is the technical. But most noobs state weeks of flowering by the time the flip to 12/12, which is technically inaccurate but very common. I do the same too but I add 2-3 weeks from when I flip to 12/12. Outdoors, I wait until I see flower clusters forming then start saying week X in flowering. But, as always, you need to watch for signs the plant is ready for harvest instead of counting day's from the 12/12 flip or else you a pre harvesting and loosing out...
What
Triggers
Flowering
Indoors
???????
 

Aeroknow

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And why do plants begin the "stretch" phase after the flip, before buds? Hmmmmm......

Because it's not flowering yet? Come on man!
 

Bugeye

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Seed companies are counting from light flip and it is just for convenience. It is assumed the plant was vegged to sexual maturity first. Outdoors they often give separate harvesting expectations that are usually pretty vague unless a specific latitude is defined. In the end, who gives a fuck? The plant is ready when it is ready.
 

Jbone77

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The answer is simple, it's just like the less often asked question about when veg starts, if you want to make yourself look like a better grower like a lot of people do, just deduct 3 or so weeks from your actual veg time because it was developing roots so it wasn't really in veg yet, I see it on here all the time, flower is no different, if you want to make yourself look like a better grower just deduct the first 14 or so days and tell everyone you have linked up clusters in week 1. Flowering of a sexually mature plant starts at flip, stretch is part of flowering and starts immediately, clusters forming is another part, clusters linking up forming colas is another, buds swelling is another, buds ripening is another. Flowering has stages, and producing flowers is one of the stages, just not the first stage.
 

Aeroknow

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The answer is simple, it's just like the less often asked question about when veg starts, if you want to make yourself look like a better grower like a lot of people do, just deduct 3 or so weeks from your actual veg time because it was developing roots so it wasn't really in veg yet, I see it on here all the time, flower is no different, if you want to make yourself look like a better grower just deduct the first 14 or so days and tell everyone you have linked up clusters in week 1. Flowering of a sexually mature plant starts at flip, stretch is part of flowering and starts immediately, clusters forming is another part, clusters linking up forming colas is another, buds swelling is another, buds ripening is another. Flowering has stages, and producing flowers is one of the stages, just not the first stage.
Word! My man
 

BWG707

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I consider my outdoor plants in full flower when I see buds forming on the tips of the branches. I notice flowers developing on the lower nodes but I don't start my count until flowers start developing on the tips. Whether this is right or wrong doesn't matter much to me because I don't harvest by counting time in flower. I keep count for personal reference for future grows, as a broad guideline, and out of curiosity. Going by these guidelines i still harvest most plants after about 8 to 10 weeks in full flower. I have always wondered exactly when a outdoor cannabis plant is in full flower.
 

Aeroknow

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I consider my outdoor plants in full flower when I see buds forming on the tips of the branches. I notice flowers developing on the lower nodes but I don't start my count until flowers start developing on the tips. Whether this is right or wrong doesn't matter much to me because I don't harvest by counting time in flower. I keep count for personal reference for future grows, as a broad guideline, and out of curiosity. Going by these guidelines i still harvest most plants after about 8 to 10 weeks in full flower. I have always wondered exactly when a outdoor cannabis plant is in full flower.
Yeah, i hear ya on the outdoor. They're done when they're done. Almost no point trying to count back. Earlier finishing strains finish earlier. Some strains, like blueknight i got start flowering way before others. Winter/greenhouse grows here start flowering way(usually)after you throw them out side, when you think they would immediately start to flower. Anywho..........
Thats outdoor/VERY strain dependant.
Indoors, i've never had a strain not begin to flower after flipping 12/12. Two different games. Indoor, we have complete control over it. We tell the bitch when to flower. Like light dep outdoor :bigjoint:
 

Jbone77

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The day/week counting thing is dumb, unless you grow exclusively from clone and actually know how long it will take in your controlled environment. I like the guys that have topped a plant several different times, supercropped the shit out of it, have a 2' tall plant with 40 tops and is round as a fuckin hula hoop that fills a 4x4 side to side, and then say it's about to start week 3 of veg. Pretty sure they are the same guys that get colas in week 1 of flower. People need to say the seed was planted this day(or put in a cup of water or paper towel etc) or the cut was taken this day, and the lights were flipped this day. The outdoor guys I know don't talk about weeks, they say it was planted early June and will hopefully be ready September/October, they are a pretty simple bunch.
 

BWG707

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I'm not talking for all the outdoor growers but I don't go by any timelines at all when I harvest. I look at my plant and the buds for different signs of maturity. Any timelines that I do count are strictly for my own future comparisons and curiosity. But then again I keep it simple because you know we are a "simple bunch". I just had to add that- ha ha.
 

BSD0621

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And why do plants begin the "stretch" phase after the flip, before buds? Hmmmmm......

Because it's not flowering yet? Come on man!
I agree. I don't count the stretch phase as flowering. It's PRE flowering technically. Think you need to read what I typed over again...
 
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