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DoobieBrother
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[h=1]High Times in DC: Marijuana Decriminalized in U.S. Capital[/h]
For anyone who believes the push for marijuana legalization is restricted to liberated states out west, it’s time to look at the nation’s capital. The Washington, D.C., City Council voted to remove harsh punishmentsfor possession of small amounts of marijuana on March 4 by an overwhelming majority of votes. Once D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray signs the bill into law, which he’s expected to do, the punishment for holding pot in the capital city will amount to a slap on the wrist and a fine of $25.
The measure in the D.C. Council will take the teeth out of laws now on the books in the nation’s capital. As it stands, marijuana possession is punishable by fines up to $1,000 and six months in jail. Under the new law, possession will be considered a minor infraction on the level of a parking ticket but cost less, while anyone caught smoking pot in the streets will face fines up to $500 or 60 days in a D.C. jail. Council members voted ten to three in favor of decriminalizing.
Supporters of the movement to legalize marijuana rejoiced at the news, noting it marks a turn for the East Coast and stands as a powerful symbol by going into effect in the nation’s capital. Tommy Wells, the Councilman who sponsored the bill, told Reuters that the law would help move the district away “in the right direction,” i.e. away from the current policy that has police arresting over 5,000 people on pot charges annually in D.C.
On top of the waste of tax dollars and attention of the police force, the marijuana legalization debate has civil rights implications as well. African Americans are four times more likely to be arrested than Caucasians for marijuana offenses, a ratio which is even worse in Washington, D.C.
According to the American Civil Liberties Union, African Americans are arrested eight times more often than Caucasians for pot offenses in D.C., a number which has become a powerful tool in the campaign to decriminalize possession. A recent Washington Post poll showed that district residents were ready for the change.
The random phone survey of 1,000 D.C. residents found 63 percent favoring outright legalization of marijuana, while 34 percent opposed the measure. Caucasian’s supported legalization by 73 percent to 23 percent. As recently as 2010, polls showed D.C. residents in a near deadlock on the marijuana legalization question.
With Colorado and Washington both legalizing marijuana, the movement has made huge strides in recent years. Once Mayor Gray signs the bill into law, D.C. will bring progressive drug policy to the East Coast. It isn’t the first time the D.C. Council has shown leadership on progressive issues. In 2010, D.C. became the first major city on the eastern seaboard to tax plastic bags in grocery stores in order to combat issues of waste and waterway pollution.
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[h=1]High Times in DC: Marijuana Decriminalized in U.S. Capital[/h]
For anyone who believes the push for marijuana legalization is restricted to liberated states out west, it’s time to look at the nation’s capital. The Washington, D.C., City Council voted to remove harsh punishmentsfor possession of small amounts of marijuana on March 4 by an overwhelming majority of votes. Once D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray signs the bill into law, which he’s expected to do, the punishment for holding pot in the capital city will amount to a slap on the wrist and a fine of $25.
The measure in the D.C. Council will take the teeth out of laws now on the books in the nation’s capital. As it stands, marijuana possession is punishable by fines up to $1,000 and six months in jail. Under the new law, possession will be considered a minor infraction on the level of a parking ticket but cost less, while anyone caught smoking pot in the streets will face fines up to $500 or 60 days in a D.C. jail. Council members voted ten to three in favor of decriminalizing.
Supporters of the movement to legalize marijuana rejoiced at the news, noting it marks a turn for the East Coast and stands as a powerful symbol by going into effect in the nation’s capital. Tommy Wells, the Councilman who sponsored the bill, told Reuters that the law would help move the district away “in the right direction,” i.e. away from the current policy that has police arresting over 5,000 people on pot charges annually in D.C.
On top of the waste of tax dollars and attention of the police force, the marijuana legalization debate has civil rights implications as well. African Americans are four times more likely to be arrested than Caucasians for marijuana offenses, a ratio which is even worse in Washington, D.C.
According to the American Civil Liberties Union, African Americans are arrested eight times more often than Caucasians for pot offenses in D.C., a number which has become a powerful tool in the campaign to decriminalize possession. A recent Washington Post poll showed that district residents were ready for the change.
The random phone survey of 1,000 D.C. residents found 63 percent favoring outright legalization of marijuana, while 34 percent opposed the measure. Caucasian’s supported legalization by 73 percent to 23 percent. As recently as 2010, polls showed D.C. residents in a near deadlock on the marijuana legalization question.
With Colorado and Washington both legalizing marijuana, the movement has made huge strides in recent years. Once Mayor Gray signs the bill into law, D.C. will bring progressive drug policy to the East Coast. It isn’t the first time the D.C. Council has shown leadership on progressive issues. In 2010, D.C. became the first major city on the eastern seaboard to tax plastic bags in grocery stores in order to combat issues of waste and waterway pollution.
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SFguy
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Beautiful plants DST!
Nothing special under the 400W tonight.
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A buddy of mine gave me a small bottle with about 30 bagseed in it from his travels to Hawaii. I have no idea what I have here but I am going to clone this out when I get some space and see what they can do!
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Pack of wild (spoiled) Dogs. 2 are in flower now and the others are waiting to go outside and play.
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the ones in the cloth pots are looking really really nice ABM... what brand pots are those??
DST
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Falling like Dominoes.....hope the memento continues.
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High Times in DC: Marijuana Decriminalized in U.S. Capital
For anyone who believes the push for marijuana legalization is restricted to liberated states out west, it’s time to look at the nation’s capital. The Washington, D.C., City Council voted to remove harsh punishmentsfor possession of small amounts of marijuana on March 4 by an overwhelming majority of votes. Once D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray signs the bill into law, which he’s expected to do, the punishment for holding pot in the capital city will amount to a slap on the wrist and a fine of $25.
The measure in the D.C. Council will take the teeth out of laws now on the books in the nation’s capital. As it stands, marijuana possession is punishable by fines up to $1,000 and six months in jail. Under the new law, possession will be considered a minor infraction on the level of a parking ticket but cost less, while anyone caught smoking pot in the streets will face fines up to $500 or 60 days in a D.C. jail. Council members voted ten to three in favor of decriminalizing.
Supporters of the movement to legalize marijuana rejoiced at the news, noting it marks a turn for the East Coast and stands as a powerful symbol by going into effect in the nation’s capital. Tommy Wells, the Councilman who sponsored the bill, told Reuters that the law would help move the district away “in the right direction,” i.e. away from the current policy that has police arresting over 5,000 people on pot charges annually in D.C.
On top of the waste of tax dollars and attention of the police force, the marijuana legalization debate has civil rights implications as well. African Americans are four times more likely to be arrested than Caucasians for marijuana offenses, a ratio which is even worse in Washington, D.C.
According to the American Civil Liberties Union, African Americans are arrested eight times more often than Caucasians for pot offenses in D.C., a number which has become a powerful tool in the campaign to decriminalize possession. A recent Washington Post poll showed that district residents were ready for the change.
The random phone survey of 1,000 D.C. residents found 63 percent favoring outright legalization of marijuana, while 34 percent opposed the measure. Caucasian’s supported legalization by 73 percent to 23 percent. As recently as 2010, polls showed D.C. residents in a near deadlock on the marijuana legalization question.
With Colorado and Washington both legalizing marijuana, the movement has made huge strides in recent years. Once Mayor Gray signs the bill into law, D.C. will bring progressive drug policy to the East Coast. It isn’t the first time the D.C. Council has shown leadership on progressive issues. In 2010, D.C. became the first major city on the eastern seaboard to tax plastic bags in grocery stores in order to combat issues of waste and waterway pollution.
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whodatnation
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Good but not good enough, $500 and 60 days in jail for smoking in public seems a bit harsh to me. Let's keep this ball rolling for sure though... One day brothers and sisters!
angryblackman
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TheGreenHornet
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that is great news.. i might just call my congressman and see where he stands on the issue. and THEN tell him how I feel. caucasians by 73% eh? white powrr, hyaw! (lol) -hope yall know im kiddin
DoobieBrother
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Here's a cool one:
(one guy playing all instrument parts, and two singers for vocals)
Boston's "Foreplay/Long Time"
[video=youtube_share;6H57pWC5rvk]http://youtu.be/6H57pWC5rvk[/video]
(one guy playing all instrument parts, and two singers for vocals)
Boston's "Foreplay/Long Time"
[video=youtube_share;6H57pWC5rvk]http://youtu.be/6H57pWC5rvk[/video]
curious old fart
Well-Known Member
one of the benefits of legalization
High and mighty: Colorado officials report roughly $2M in recreational pot taxes in 1st month
The tax total reported by the state Department of Revenue indicates that $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold in January. Colorado legalized pot in 2012, but the commercial sale of marijuana didn't begin until that month.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Monday, March 10, 2014, 6:47 Pm
Colorado's Department of Revenue has reported that $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold in January, raising roughly $2 million in marijuana taxes during the first month of its legalized commercial sale.
DENVER — Colorado made roughly $2 million in marijuana taxes in January, state revenue officials reported Monday in the world's first accounting of the recreational pot business.
The tax total reported by the state Department of Revenue indicates $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold. The state collected roughly $2.01 million in taxes.
Colorado legalized pot in 2012, but the commercial sale of marijuana didn't begin until January. Washington state sales begin in coming months.
The pot taxes come from 12.9 percent sales taxes and 15 percent excise taxes. Voters approved the pot taxes last year. They declared that the first $40 million of the excise tax must go to school construction; the rest will be spent by state lawmakers.
RELATED: MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL COULD REGULATE FREE-WHEELING TRADE
Colorado has about 160 state-licensed recreational marijuana stores, though local licensing kept some from opening in January. Local governments also have the ability to levy additional pot sales taxes if they wish.
Voters declared that the first $40 million of the 15 percent excise tax made from the marijuana sales must go to school construction; the rest will be spent by state lawmakers.
Monday's tax release intensified lobbying over how Colorado should spend its pot money. Budget-writers expect the nascent marijuana industry to be extremely volatile for several years, making lawmakers nervous about how to spend the windfall.
Budget-writing lawmakers joke that plenty of interests have their hands out to get a piece of the pot windfall.
Gov. John Hickenlooper has already sent the Legislature a detailed $134 million proposal for spending recreational and medical marijuana money, including new spending on anti-drug messaging to kids and more advertising discouraging driving while high.
State police chiefs have asked for more money, too.
"The whole world wants to belly up to this trough," said Sen. Pat Steadman, a Denver Democrat who serves on Colorado's budget-writing Joint Budget Committee.
Other countries also are watching Colorado, which has the world's first fully regulated recreational marijuana market. The Netherlands has legal sales of pot but does not allow growing or distribution. Uruguay's marijuana program is still under development.
Colorado's pot revenue picture is further complicated by the state's unique budget constraints, known as the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights.
RELATED: FIRST MEDICAL POT AD AIRS IN NJ
The Bill of Rights not only requires voter approval for tax increases, it limits budget-writers when those taxes earn more than the figure posed to voters. Last year's pot vote guessed that the taxes would produce $70 million a year, and it's not clear what lawmakers can do with tax money that exceeds that figure.
Colorado's JBC plans a Wednesday briefing with lawyers to lay out their options for spending pot taxes beyond $70 million.
"There probably is a tendency to want to just grab on to this revenue from marijuana and feed my own pet projects, and I don't think it's going to be that simple," said Sen. Kent Lambert, R-Colorado Springs and another JBC member.
Colorado's 2014-15 budget is under debate now and does not include any anticipated recreational marijuana
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High and mighty: Colorado officials report roughly $2M in recreational pot taxes in 1st month
The tax total reported by the state Department of Revenue indicates that $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold in January. Colorado legalized pot in 2012, but the commercial sale of marijuana didn't begin until that month.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Monday, March 10, 2014, 6:47 Pm
Colorado's Department of Revenue has reported that $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold in January, raising roughly $2 million in marijuana taxes during the first month of its legalized commercial sale.
DENVER — Colorado made roughly $2 million in marijuana taxes in January, state revenue officials reported Monday in the world's first accounting of the recreational pot business.
The tax total reported by the state Department of Revenue indicates $14.02 million worth of recreational pot was sold. The state collected roughly $2.01 million in taxes.
Colorado legalized pot in 2012, but the commercial sale of marijuana didn't begin until January. Washington state sales begin in coming months.
The pot taxes come from 12.9 percent sales taxes and 15 percent excise taxes. Voters approved the pot taxes last year. They declared that the first $40 million of the excise tax must go to school construction; the rest will be spent by state lawmakers.
RELATED: MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL COULD REGULATE FREE-WHEELING TRADE
Colorado has about 160 state-licensed recreational marijuana stores, though local licensing kept some from opening in January. Local governments also have the ability to levy additional pot sales taxes if they wish.
Voters declared that the first $40 million of the 15 percent excise tax made from the marijuana sales must go to school construction; the rest will be spent by state lawmakers.
Monday's tax release intensified lobbying over how Colorado should spend its pot money. Budget-writers expect the nascent marijuana industry to be extremely volatile for several years, making lawmakers nervous about how to spend the windfall.
Budget-writing lawmakers joke that plenty of interests have their hands out to get a piece of the pot windfall.
Gov. John Hickenlooper has already sent the Legislature a detailed $134 million proposal for spending recreational and medical marijuana money, including new spending on anti-drug messaging to kids and more advertising discouraging driving while high.
State police chiefs have asked for more money, too.
"The whole world wants to belly up to this trough," said Sen. Pat Steadman, a Denver Democrat who serves on Colorado's budget-writing Joint Budget Committee.
Other countries also are watching Colorado, which has the world's first fully regulated recreational marijuana market. The Netherlands has legal sales of pot but does not allow growing or distribution. Uruguay's marijuana program is still under development.
Colorado's pot revenue picture is further complicated by the state's unique budget constraints, known as the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights.
RELATED: FIRST MEDICAL POT AD AIRS IN NJ
The Bill of Rights not only requires voter approval for tax increases, it limits budget-writers when those taxes earn more than the figure posed to voters. Last year's pot vote guessed that the taxes would produce $70 million a year, and it's not clear what lawmakers can do with tax money that exceeds that figure.
Colorado's JBC plans a Wednesday briefing with lawyers to lay out their options for spending pot taxes beyond $70 million.
"There probably is a tendency to want to just grab on to this revenue from marijuana and feed my own pet projects, and I don't think it's going to be that simple," said Sen. Kent Lambert, R-Colorado Springs and another JBC member.
Colorado's 2014-15 budget is under debate now and does not include any anticipated recreational marijuana
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mensabarbie
Active Member
I'm from Colorado. They figured out how to tax it. That's all she wrote.
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curious old fart
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medibles anyone?
The L.E.S.S. Method
A Measured Approach to Oral Cannabis
Start Low. Establish Potency. Go Slow. Supplement as Needed.
(or How Not to Overdose on Oral Cannabis)
by Earth & Fire Erowid
Nov 2011
Erowid Extracts #21
Citation: Erowid E, Erowid F. "The L.E.S.S. Method: A Measured Approach to Oral Cannabis." Erowid Extracts. Nov 2011;21:6-9.
Small Piece of Cannabis-Infused Edible
Photo © 2011 Erowid.
More than half of all U.S. adults under the age of 60 have used cannabis at least once. While cannabis is usually smoked, oral consumption is not uncommon. When eaten, the effects take substantially more time to come on, are described as being more intense, and last hours longer than when smoked. The high potency of THC and other cannabinoids means that a large dose can fit into a tiny portion of food. These factors, combined with a wide variation in potency from one batch of edibles to another, present a considerable risk of unpleasant, long-lasting, accidental overdoses.
Cannabis edibles have become more available in recent years as the medical marijuana market has matured. They are popular enough that a page with two recipes for cannabis cookies was the third most visited article on Erowid.org in August and September 2011. Many medical dispensaries sell an assortment of edible products: from classic brownies and cookies, to fudges, lollipops, pizzas, bagel bites, tinctures, and "cannabutter" (for use in home cooking).
But even commercially available products are made from plants that naturally vary in cannabinoid concentrations. Whether bought or baked at home, the dosage of the same type of edible can differ from one batch to the next. As a result of this natural variation, as well as some common usage errors, over the past 40 years oral cannabis has developed a reputation for being unpleasant and too strong. An overdose can be overwhelming, including extreme disorientation, confusion, hallucinations, depersonalization, nausea, vomiting, pounding heart, anxiety, and paranoia.
"I started doubting I would ever be normal again, I thought I was gonna stay insane, trapped in this world of anxiety"
-- by Insane Sleep, Exp ID 75339
It's a familiar story. A student unaccustomed to oral cannabis is offered a pot brownie at a dorm party or festival, and ends up getting radically more than he or she bargained for.
Many people swear off ingesting cannabis after such an experience. Achieving just the right degree of effect from a proffered edible is difficult, even for those with extensive experience.
Yet, careful oral consumption can provide benefits over smoking, including reduced throat and lung irritation, and longer duration, which results in less frequent need to redose and greater consistency in intensity over time.
Some regular users of oral cannabis, such as medical marijuana patients, have developed personal protocols for achieving consistent results with various preparations. As vendors selling edible cannabis products multiply and reports of classic consumption errors continue to prevail, it's important to document the various techniques for successfully working with oral cannabis.
Several easily avoidable mistakes are the primary causes of most oral cannabis overdoses. As long as a few guidelines are kept in mind, cannabis edibles can be used safely, providing an effective--and in some ways preferable--alternative to smoking.
"I smoked a gram every day for 7 months, a gram of some damn potent shit too. But nothing prepared me for what I was about to face."
-- by Insane Sleep, Exp ID 75339
Oral Cannabis is Different
With key differences in dose, onset, duration, and methodology, it may be useful to think of oral cannabis as a different drug than smoked cannabis. Even frequent smokers can easily overdose when consuming orally. The slow onset and extended duration often surprise those who are only familiar with smoking or vaporizing.
Start Low & Establish Potency
THC is orally active in the range of a few milligrams, while a cookie or brownie typically weighs more than 10 grams. That means it's easy for nearly any cannabis-infused edible to range in potency from inactive to strong enough to induce a radical overdose. Unless one has personally established the strength of a particular batch of edibles, there's no immediate way to determine how strong it is. Without checking it first, an edible cannabis preparation should be considered potentially highly potent.
Because expectations, tolerance, and reactions can vary dramatically from one person to the next, relying on someone else's description of potency is a recipe for disaster. Those who make oral cannabis products are more likely to be regular users who have built up a tolerance, and therefore they often underestimate potency for first-time or casual consumers. The size of a cookie or brownie provides no reliable clues: a powerful oral dose can fit into the size of a small tablet and it's unfortunately common for a reasonable dose to be a quarter or less of a cookie, brownie, or crispy treat.
"I got conflicting advice about how to go about eating the cookies. A guy in my building, Curly, told us we should eat them really slowly, take a few bites and then sit for a while, then take another few bites and wait again. But Coaster told us something like, 'No way! Then you won't get high! You want to eat them really fast!' I didn't realize that Coaster thought our goal was to get as incredibly high as possible, when in actuality our goal was just to see what it was like to be high...not necessarily extremely, extremely high. I trusted Coaster's advice because I figured he knew a lot about drugs. [...] Being high was pretty much the worst feeling ever to me."
-- by Captain, Exp ID 56706
Establishing the strength of the material for yourself, by starting very low, before you ingest a full dose is the fundamental key to the L.E.S.S. method. If one is faced with an edible of unknown potency, and yet is determined to try it, the best way to avoid an overdose is to intentionally underdose. Begin with a small piece (less than a quarter of a suggested portion). Measure or weigh the piece you try and make note of it. Then wait a minimum of 90 minutes on an empty stomach, or 120-150 minutes otherwise, before evaluating whether or not to consume another small piece.
Be Patient
"I'm afraid to ever ingest ganja orally again, and if I do it will be a much lower dose."
-- by Something Awful, Exp ID 70409
Depending on amount consumed, metabolism, and how recently a person has eaten, oral cannabis can take 30-120 minutes to initially be felt, and can last from three hours to more than 24 hours at high doses. Duration increases with dose, so it's critical to wait after trying a piece of an edible before adding more. Countless stories document people redosing shortly before the full-blown effects of their first dose kicked in.
Experimenters should consider whether they have enough time and patience to establish the potency of an untested edible: with 90-120 minutes for the first check-in, it could be three to four hours before the desired level is reached, and then another three to six hours back to baseline. If there are time constraints, the more responsible choice is to not redose with edibles and just enjoy whatever effects occur. If you don't have the time to be patient, perhaps it's not the right time to eat cannabis.
"When taken to the extreme, cannabis can become extremely dissociative and frightening to the inexperienced user. If you take anything from this story, it is that you must underdose when experimenting with any new form of usage that produces different effects. If I had eaten half a brownie and waited an hour, this all could have been avoided."
-- by Kaze no Koyo, Exp ID 58734
Start Sober & Supplement as Needed
When experimenting with new edibles, start sober. The likelihood of overdosing on oral cannabis is significantly increased if one is already high from smoked/vaporized cannabis or drunk on alcohol.
A low oral dose makes a good base. Once the effects are felt and have evened out, smoked or vaporized cannabis can be added to increase effects as desired. This method reduces negative impact on lungs and breathing while still allowing the dose to be titrated closely. It makes it practical to "underdose" with oral cannabis without having the experience be disappointing.
If supplementing with smoked or vaporized cannabis, wait a few minutes between tokes. The underlying oral cannabis can cause an unexpected acceleration of intensity.
"I packed a bowl with the pot, because I thought it would be better to smoke first in case we didn't feel anything from the brownies. Big mistake. [...] All of a sudden my stomach started to hurt so I took some Tums and tried to find something to eat, thinking that would make me feel better. As I stood at the cupboard, I literally vomited into my mouth. [...] I bolted into the bathroom and proceeded to puke my guts out."
-- by Mobiusant, Exp ID 49226
Drug, Not Food
Cannabis edibles are not food--they're drug delivery devices. Because of problems of accidental ingestion and overdosing, ideal edibles for recreational use are not ultra yummy, nor do they look enticingly delicious. It's better if a user doesn't eat too much of the edible simply because they're tasty. When the munchies kick in, the cannabis-laden food shouldn't be anywhere on the list of available snacks. The target is palatable medicine, not food.
If making your own edibles, don't cut them into regular cookie- or brownie-sized pieces, and, whenever possible, clearly label them to avoid accidental ingestion. Very small and/or irregularly shaped pieces will both reduce the chance of overdose and make it more likely that a friend will realize they're not for snacking. The risk of overdose is especially high for an unsuspecting visitor. Guests shouldn't be tempted to unknowingly consume several cookies in the middle of the night, mistaking them for dessert.
"So we broke out the brownies and ate one each. [...] I did say that I was only going to eat half of it, but by the time I was high I got even more hungry and just didn't care. [...] In retrospect, I would do it again, but at a much, MUCH smaller dose [...]."
-- by Mobiusant, Exp ID 49226
"[...] there is always that temptation to use the leftovers, if there are any, for munchies (NO! NO! BAD STONER!)."
-- by Alex, Exp ID 90786
Larger Batches Provide Consistency
When working with edibles, making (or buying) larger batches allows for more consistent dosing over time. Starting low and carefully measuring is less useful if there are only one or two doses per batch. But if a batch contains 20 or more doses, once the appropriate level has been determined, weighing a piece from the same batch can provide a similar level of effects each time.
Put simply, oral cannabis can be used safely and effectively by consuming just enough to reach a low level of effects, redosing with small amounts as necessary (no more often than every 90 minutes), treating it as a drug and not a food, working with larger batches of confirmed potency, and supplementing with small amounts of smoked or vaporized cannabis to reach the desired level.
"I had only tried [cannabis-infused] brownies a few times before anything went wrong. Both times had been fairly good experiences from a batch that a friend had made, however I was unaware of how much cannabis was used. [...] A few weeks after trying the brownies I took it upon myself to make my own batch and asked for the recipe. [...] it was as if the drug turned on me. I was suddenly overwhelmed with a feeling of fear and confusion. I was paranoid about everything and everyone [...]."
-- by Bunny Biscuits, Exp ID 7304
LOW, ESTABLISHED, SLOW, SUPPLEMENTED
L.E.S.S. In The Kitchen
Equipment Required
Mixing bowl, baking sheet, small metal sieve, small saut&eactue; pan.
Proportions
* Edibles Can Utilize Weak Material
One benefit of oral preparations is that they can make use of weak cannabis material such as leaves, or buds that have already been run through a vaporizer. There are still active cannabinoids left in depleted plant material after vaporization. Some people are tempted to increase the temperature on their vaporizer to minimize the waste, but this defeats some of the health benefits of using these devices. While ash from pipes or bongs is not useful in making cannabis edibles (even small amounts will ruin the flavor), weak or depleted cannabis is excellent for use in oral preparations.
6 g cannabis (fresh bud, shake, leaves, or post-vaporized*)
¼ lb (113 g) butter
3 cups (710 ml) flour
1 cup (235 ml) sugar
Choose a recipe that suits your tastes, remembering that it should not be for a common food that a stoned person might eat. Ginger snaps or other strongly flavored items work well, both to avoid over-snacking and to mask the flavor of cannabis in the final product. Using a boxed mix, while convenient, is especially likely to result in a product that is too easy to mistake for a snack.
Replace the butter in the chosen recipe with the cannabis butter as prepared below. The recipe should use approximately ¼ lb (1 stick) of butter per 3 cups of flour and 1 cup of sugar (or per 4 cups of total dry material) to match this template. If the recipe varies from those proportions, the dose needs to be adjusted accordingly.
Cooking Materials
Photo © 2011 Erowid.
Cannabis Butter Preparation
Cannabis is ground or minced thoroughly. Butter is cut into thirds. The cannabis is browned at medium heat in one third of the butter and thoroughly saturated in liquid butter for several minutes. Stir frequently. Do not walk away or use too much heat, as the cannabis can burn quickly.
The liquidy mixture of butter and cannabis is poured into the sieve and pressed with a spoon, draining the liquid butter into a mixing bowl and retaining the cannabis in the sieve. Repeat this extraction process two more times, re-browning the same cannabis in one third of the butter each time.
After three extractions, nearly all of the cannabinoids are now in the butter, and the plant material can be discarded. If the recipe is strongly flavored, the remaining cannabis plant material could be added back into the product; however, don't try this the first time you make the recipe, as it may produce unpleasant-tasting results.
Use the resulting cannabis butter in your selected recipe, label the final product with a clear warning, and store out of the reach of children.
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The L.E.S.S. Method
A Measured Approach to Oral Cannabis
Start Low. Establish Potency. Go Slow. Supplement as Needed.
(or How Not to Overdose on Oral Cannabis)
by Earth & Fire Erowid
Nov 2011
Erowid Extracts #21
Citation: Erowid E, Erowid F. "The L.E.S.S. Method: A Measured Approach to Oral Cannabis." Erowid Extracts. Nov 2011;21:6-9.
Small Piece of Cannabis-Infused Edible
Photo © 2011 Erowid.
More than half of all U.S. adults under the age of 60 have used cannabis at least once. While cannabis is usually smoked, oral consumption is not uncommon. When eaten, the effects take substantially more time to come on, are described as being more intense, and last hours longer than when smoked. The high potency of THC and other cannabinoids means that a large dose can fit into a tiny portion of food. These factors, combined with a wide variation in potency from one batch of edibles to another, present a considerable risk of unpleasant, long-lasting, accidental overdoses.
Cannabis edibles have become more available in recent years as the medical marijuana market has matured. They are popular enough that a page with two recipes for cannabis cookies was the third most visited article on Erowid.org in August and September 2011. Many medical dispensaries sell an assortment of edible products: from classic brownies and cookies, to fudges, lollipops, pizzas, bagel bites, tinctures, and "cannabutter" (for use in home cooking).
But even commercially available products are made from plants that naturally vary in cannabinoid concentrations. Whether bought or baked at home, the dosage of the same type of edible can differ from one batch to the next. As a result of this natural variation, as well as some common usage errors, over the past 40 years oral cannabis has developed a reputation for being unpleasant and too strong. An overdose can be overwhelming, including extreme disorientation, confusion, hallucinations, depersonalization, nausea, vomiting, pounding heart, anxiety, and paranoia.
"I started doubting I would ever be normal again, I thought I was gonna stay insane, trapped in this world of anxiety"
-- by Insane Sleep, Exp ID 75339
It's a familiar story. A student unaccustomed to oral cannabis is offered a pot brownie at a dorm party or festival, and ends up getting radically more than he or she bargained for.
Many people swear off ingesting cannabis after such an experience. Achieving just the right degree of effect from a proffered edible is difficult, even for those with extensive experience.
Yet, careful oral consumption can provide benefits over smoking, including reduced throat and lung irritation, and longer duration, which results in less frequent need to redose and greater consistency in intensity over time.
Some regular users of oral cannabis, such as medical marijuana patients, have developed personal protocols for achieving consistent results with various preparations. As vendors selling edible cannabis products multiply and reports of classic consumption errors continue to prevail, it's important to document the various techniques for successfully working with oral cannabis.
Several easily avoidable mistakes are the primary causes of most oral cannabis overdoses. As long as a few guidelines are kept in mind, cannabis edibles can be used safely, providing an effective--and in some ways preferable--alternative to smoking.
"I smoked a gram every day for 7 months, a gram of some damn potent shit too. But nothing prepared me for what I was about to face."
-- by Insane Sleep, Exp ID 75339
Oral Cannabis is Different
With key differences in dose, onset, duration, and methodology, it may be useful to think of oral cannabis as a different drug than smoked cannabis. Even frequent smokers can easily overdose when consuming orally. The slow onset and extended duration often surprise those who are only familiar with smoking or vaporizing.
Start Low & Establish Potency
THC is orally active in the range of a few milligrams, while a cookie or brownie typically weighs more than 10 grams. That means it's easy for nearly any cannabis-infused edible to range in potency from inactive to strong enough to induce a radical overdose. Unless one has personally established the strength of a particular batch of edibles, there's no immediate way to determine how strong it is. Without checking it first, an edible cannabis preparation should be considered potentially highly potent.
Because expectations, tolerance, and reactions can vary dramatically from one person to the next, relying on someone else's description of potency is a recipe for disaster. Those who make oral cannabis products are more likely to be regular users who have built up a tolerance, and therefore they often underestimate potency for first-time or casual consumers. The size of a cookie or brownie provides no reliable clues: a powerful oral dose can fit into the size of a small tablet and it's unfortunately common for a reasonable dose to be a quarter or less of a cookie, brownie, or crispy treat.
"I got conflicting advice about how to go about eating the cookies. A guy in my building, Curly, told us we should eat them really slowly, take a few bites and then sit for a while, then take another few bites and wait again. But Coaster told us something like, 'No way! Then you won't get high! You want to eat them really fast!' I didn't realize that Coaster thought our goal was to get as incredibly high as possible, when in actuality our goal was just to see what it was like to be high...not necessarily extremely, extremely high. I trusted Coaster's advice because I figured he knew a lot about drugs. [...] Being high was pretty much the worst feeling ever to me."
-- by Captain, Exp ID 56706
Establishing the strength of the material for yourself, by starting very low, before you ingest a full dose is the fundamental key to the L.E.S.S. method. If one is faced with an edible of unknown potency, and yet is determined to try it, the best way to avoid an overdose is to intentionally underdose. Begin with a small piece (less than a quarter of a suggested portion). Measure or weigh the piece you try and make note of it. Then wait a minimum of 90 minutes on an empty stomach, or 120-150 minutes otherwise, before evaluating whether or not to consume another small piece.
Be Patient
"I'm afraid to ever ingest ganja orally again, and if I do it will be a much lower dose."
-- by Something Awful, Exp ID 70409
Depending on amount consumed, metabolism, and how recently a person has eaten, oral cannabis can take 30-120 minutes to initially be felt, and can last from three hours to more than 24 hours at high doses. Duration increases with dose, so it's critical to wait after trying a piece of an edible before adding more. Countless stories document people redosing shortly before the full-blown effects of their first dose kicked in.
Experimenters should consider whether they have enough time and patience to establish the potency of an untested edible: with 90-120 minutes for the first check-in, it could be three to four hours before the desired level is reached, and then another three to six hours back to baseline. If there are time constraints, the more responsible choice is to not redose with edibles and just enjoy whatever effects occur. If you don't have the time to be patient, perhaps it's not the right time to eat cannabis.
"When taken to the extreme, cannabis can become extremely dissociative and frightening to the inexperienced user. If you take anything from this story, it is that you must underdose when experimenting with any new form of usage that produces different effects. If I had eaten half a brownie and waited an hour, this all could have been avoided."
-- by Kaze no Koyo, Exp ID 58734
Start Sober & Supplement as Needed
When experimenting with new edibles, start sober. The likelihood of overdosing on oral cannabis is significantly increased if one is already high from smoked/vaporized cannabis or drunk on alcohol.
A low oral dose makes a good base. Once the effects are felt and have evened out, smoked or vaporized cannabis can be added to increase effects as desired. This method reduces negative impact on lungs and breathing while still allowing the dose to be titrated closely. It makes it practical to "underdose" with oral cannabis without having the experience be disappointing.
If supplementing with smoked or vaporized cannabis, wait a few minutes between tokes. The underlying oral cannabis can cause an unexpected acceleration of intensity.
"I packed a bowl with the pot, because I thought it would be better to smoke first in case we didn't feel anything from the brownies. Big mistake. [...] All of a sudden my stomach started to hurt so I took some Tums and tried to find something to eat, thinking that would make me feel better. As I stood at the cupboard, I literally vomited into my mouth. [...] I bolted into the bathroom and proceeded to puke my guts out."
-- by Mobiusant, Exp ID 49226
Drug, Not Food
Cannabis edibles are not food--they're drug delivery devices. Because of problems of accidental ingestion and overdosing, ideal edibles for recreational use are not ultra yummy, nor do they look enticingly delicious. It's better if a user doesn't eat too much of the edible simply because they're tasty. When the munchies kick in, the cannabis-laden food shouldn't be anywhere on the list of available snacks. The target is palatable medicine, not food.
If making your own edibles, don't cut them into regular cookie- or brownie-sized pieces, and, whenever possible, clearly label them to avoid accidental ingestion. Very small and/or irregularly shaped pieces will both reduce the chance of overdose and make it more likely that a friend will realize they're not for snacking. The risk of overdose is especially high for an unsuspecting visitor. Guests shouldn't be tempted to unknowingly consume several cookies in the middle of the night, mistaking them for dessert.
"So we broke out the brownies and ate one each. [...] I did say that I was only going to eat half of it, but by the time I was high I got even more hungry and just didn't care. [...] In retrospect, I would do it again, but at a much, MUCH smaller dose [...]."
-- by Mobiusant, Exp ID 49226
"[...] there is always that temptation to use the leftovers, if there are any, for munchies (NO! NO! BAD STONER!)."
-- by Alex, Exp ID 90786
Larger Batches Provide Consistency
When working with edibles, making (or buying) larger batches allows for more consistent dosing over time. Starting low and carefully measuring is less useful if there are only one or two doses per batch. But if a batch contains 20 or more doses, once the appropriate level has been determined, weighing a piece from the same batch can provide a similar level of effects each time.
Put simply, oral cannabis can be used safely and effectively by consuming just enough to reach a low level of effects, redosing with small amounts as necessary (no more often than every 90 minutes), treating it as a drug and not a food, working with larger batches of confirmed potency, and supplementing with small amounts of smoked or vaporized cannabis to reach the desired level.
"I had only tried [cannabis-infused] brownies a few times before anything went wrong. Both times had been fairly good experiences from a batch that a friend had made, however I was unaware of how much cannabis was used. [...] A few weeks after trying the brownies I took it upon myself to make my own batch and asked for the recipe. [...] it was as if the drug turned on me. I was suddenly overwhelmed with a feeling of fear and confusion. I was paranoid about everything and everyone [...]."
-- by Bunny Biscuits, Exp ID 7304
LOW, ESTABLISHED, SLOW, SUPPLEMENTED
L.E.S.S. In The Kitchen
Equipment Required
Mixing bowl, baking sheet, small metal sieve, small saut&eactue; pan.
Proportions
* Edibles Can Utilize Weak Material
One benefit of oral preparations is that they can make use of weak cannabis material such as leaves, or buds that have already been run through a vaporizer. There are still active cannabinoids left in depleted plant material after vaporization. Some people are tempted to increase the temperature on their vaporizer to minimize the waste, but this defeats some of the health benefits of using these devices. While ash from pipes or bongs is not useful in making cannabis edibles (even small amounts will ruin the flavor), weak or depleted cannabis is excellent for use in oral preparations.
6 g cannabis (fresh bud, shake, leaves, or post-vaporized*)
¼ lb (113 g) butter
3 cups (710 ml) flour
1 cup (235 ml) sugar
Choose a recipe that suits your tastes, remembering that it should not be for a common food that a stoned person might eat. Ginger snaps or other strongly flavored items work well, both to avoid over-snacking and to mask the flavor of cannabis in the final product. Using a boxed mix, while convenient, is especially likely to result in a product that is too easy to mistake for a snack.
Replace the butter in the chosen recipe with the cannabis butter as prepared below. The recipe should use approximately ¼ lb (1 stick) of butter per 3 cups of flour and 1 cup of sugar (or per 4 cups of total dry material) to match this template. If the recipe varies from those proportions, the dose needs to be adjusted accordingly.
Cooking Materials
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Cannabis Butter Preparation
Cannabis is ground or minced thoroughly. Butter is cut into thirds. The cannabis is browned at medium heat in one third of the butter and thoroughly saturated in liquid butter for several minutes. Stir frequently. Do not walk away or use too much heat, as the cannabis can burn quickly.
The liquidy mixture of butter and cannabis is poured into the sieve and pressed with a spoon, draining the liquid butter into a mixing bowl and retaining the cannabis in the sieve. Repeat this extraction process two more times, re-browning the same cannabis in one third of the butter each time.
After three extractions, nearly all of the cannabinoids are now in the butter, and the plant material can be discarded. If the recipe is strongly flavored, the remaining cannabis plant material could be added back into the product; however, don't try this the first time you make the recipe, as it may produce unpleasant-tasting results.
Use the resulting cannabis butter in your selected recipe, label the final product with a clear warning, and store out of the reach of children.
cof
curious old fart
Well-Known Member
I saw an article about Cali floating a new bill to bring the medial mj business under state reins. It didn't sound good.
cof
mensabarbie
Active Member
fucking socialists. I wish them luck with that. I will ask my attorney whats up.I saw an article about Cali floating a new bill to bring the medial mj business under state reins. It didn't sound good.
cof
mensabarbie
Active Member
I read up on it. That shyt will never pass. Its the police chiefs behind it and the league of cities. Whatever that is.http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/03/09/state-oversight-marijuana-industry/
mensabarbie
Active Member
I thought you meant days not years. Happy bday.