Flowering help! Anybody take a look!

So I have 2 strawberry coughs in veg right now, they've been in veg for about a month. I also have an auto that i planted the same time as the other two, and its in the flowering stage. I was thinking to make things easier for myself I would keep the strawberry's in veg until the auto flower was finished (2 months in total). Then after the auto was ready I would switch the lights and the light cycle to 12/12. But someone told me 2 months in veg was too long for the cough's, and that I would be ok switching them to flower now because either way the auto will still bud.

- If anyone can please tell me If i switch the lights and the cycle now will it mess up the auto, or will it still be ok and continue to bud?

- Also if anyone has an opinion about if 2 months is too long in veg, or if anyone thinks 2 months in veg would be ok?

- Im also not sure if the strawberry's are ready to flower, if anyone can tell if they are please let me know right away!

Any and all info and feedback helps! please don't hesitate

Heres a link to a forum that has all the pics of my plants from small up until right now …. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/812527-my-1st-grow-seed-up.html

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Slipon

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two months is a long time, unless you want monsters to flower ?

and sure the Auto will finish either way

maybe meet some where in the middle, give em 4 week more Veg. then switch and let the Auto finish with 12/12, at that time it won't matter that much as the Auto should be so fare ahead that it mostly will swell up and finish them last weeks
 
two months is a long time, unless you want monsters to flower ?

and sure the Auto will finish either way

maybe meet some where in the middle, give em 4 week more Veg. then switch and let the Auto finish with 12/12, at that time it won't matter that much as the Auto should be so fare ahead that it mostly will swell up and finish them last weeks
alright cool sounds good, but if i let them stay in veg for 4 more weeks that would be another month, and then they would have been in veg for 2 months. (reminder they've been in veg for a month already) So do you mean let them stay in veg for two more weeks (half a month) then switch to 12/12?
 

Slipon

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yea that could work Im sure, just remember that most plants grow 50-100% in size the first few weeks of 12/12 (the stretch) why you don't want to veg too larges plants for indoor/artificial light, IMO they do best when given a chance to mature before 12/12 (6-8 weeks of Veg for most strain`s) but not much more then that or you end up with too larges plants (agin IMO) mature plants will set random leaves points instead of in par`s and it will begin to show its sex, that usually about the time I like to switch
 
yea that could work Im sure, just remember that most plants grow 50-100% in size the first few weeks of 12/12 (the stretch) why you don't want to veg too larges plants for indoor/artificial light, IMO they do best when given a chance to mature before 12/12 (6-8 weeks of Veg for most strain`s) but not much more then that or you end up with too larges plants (agin IMO) mature plants will set random leaves points instead of in par`s and it will begin to show its sex, that usually about the time I like to switch
Hey bro i don't mean to be annoying asking to much questions, most ppl on here don't like that lol, anyway i just really want to understand what I'm doing I'm into it, i also care about it. So if you don't mind could you go a little more into detail explaining the last part. I just want to know as much as i can.

I understand the first few parts, like they grow and develop the most in the first few weeks of flower. and that 2 months is kinda long in veg so il stick to 6 weeks.

- I just ddidnt really understand that last part about "mature plants will set random leaves points instead of in par`s and it will begin to show its sex, that usually about the time I like to switch"
You think you could go into more detail on this?

If you don't mind, it would be much appreciated i just want to make sure i know how to tell sex so i can know to switch around that time.
 

jondamon

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Mature plants will grow leaves up a stem that are alternating rather than in pairs.

Look up alternating nodes.


Your auto will be fine with a switch to 12/12.

It isn't ideal but it will be fine.



J
 

*BUDS

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Make this the last time you grow autos. With the effort and risk they are not worth it, your lucky if you get 7g off them.
 
Mature plants will grow leaves up a stem that are alternating rather than in pairs.

Look up alternating nodes.


Your auto will be fine with a switch to 12/12.

It isn't ideal but it will be fine.



J
Ok cool, thank you my friends you have both been a great help! hope all is well with your grows! +REP for both!
 

Slipon

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sure thing

at the early stages a plant is considered a seedling, wile it set one and 3 finger leaves, once it begin to set 5+ finger leaves its considered a plant in Veg. but it will still set em in pairs (two leaves one on each side of the steam and next set will be turned 90") once it begin to set "random" leaves (no longer it set/par`s) its considered mature, most strains will also begin to show sex (if female, a single white pistils where the leave meets the steam)

if you trow a unmature plant in flowering it will use longer time to start the process as it have to get ready for it (mature) a plant that already is mature will react to the 12/12 with in days/ a week and changes it hormones and begin to flower

IMO you also get a much better yield of a mature plant then a unmature, not just Bc. of the pure size different
 

jondamon

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Make this the last time you grow autos. With the effort and risk they are not worth it, your lucky if you get 7g off them.
Sorry BUDS but that's just not right.

Under my own 400w last year I grew out 4 autos while I vegged a photoperiod and I harvested around 80g a plant.



J
 

Slipon

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yea not true, I had one going "at the side" with 12/12 for most part, and even tho I did`t use much time on it, it did yield a bit more then 7g maybe 3-4x as much


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Sweet tooth Auto from Barney`s in a 5kg hempy bucket
 

Growan

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Sorry BUDS but that's just not right. L-

Under my own 400w last year I grew out 4 autos while I vegged a photoperiod and I harvested around 80g a plant.



J
That's higher than your average grower should expect though, right? That's a hell of a yield. Can I ask what strain and training regime? Or would you put it more down to growing medium and ferts? Sorry it's a bit o/t, just interested.
 
sure thing

at the early stages a plant is considered a seedling, wile it set one and 3 finger leaves, once it begin to set 5+ finger leaves its considered a plant in Veg. but it will still set em in pairs (two leaves one on each side of the steam and next set will be turned 90") once it begin to set "random" leaves (no longer it set/par`s) its considered mature, most strains will also begin to show sex (if female, a single white pistils where the leave meets the steam)

if you trow a unmature plant in flowering it will use longer time to start the process as it have to get ready for it (mature) a plant that already is mature will react to the 12/12 with in days/ a week and changes it hormones and begin to flower

IMO you also get a much better yield of a mature plant then a unmature, not just Bc. of the pure size different
Thanks bro you've been a huge help! also i just checked my plants and they have numerous alternating nodes, so my best guess with this info would be they are pretty much mature. Also i see white pistils coming out of both cough's. So would it be ok if i put them in flowering at 5 weeks (1 month and a week) or would it be better for the auto if i waited till 6 weeks (1 month and 2 weeks)?
 
Make this the last time you grow autos. With the effort and risk they are not worth it, your lucky if you get 7g off them.
the only reason i chose these 3 seeds is because, i ordered some seeds, WW, Ice, Cyrstal, and THC bomb. with this order i got some free seeds (the ones I'm growing). I did these first because it was my first time i figure hey if anything goes wrong, i didn't lose anything at all and i walk away with some experience so i can grow the real strains with at least a little knowledge.
 

Slipon

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I would do what best for the two reg. plant`s and just let the Auto finish and take what ever it yield as a early bonus, your real yield will hopefully be in your two reg plant`s
 

jondamon

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That's higher than your average grower should expect though, right? That's a hell of a yield. Can I ask what strain and training regime? Or would you put it more down to growing medium and ferts? Sorry it's a bit o/t, just interested.
With photoperiod plants I generally harvest +400g from my 400w setup.

The autos were, Auto Northern lights blue (delicious seeds), Cheese Auto (DINAFEM), MOBY dick Auto (DINAFEM) and a 60 day wonder (DNA genetics)

Biggest yield I've had from one single photoperiod plant is 156g dry.

I tell most new growers to aim for half the wattage of HID lighting they're using in dry bud.

250w - 125g
400w - 200g
600w - 300g
1000w - 500g

This is just a ball park figure.

Once environmental variables are well controlled and you understand how to feed properly without over doing it on nutrients and too many boosters then yields will follow.

Look to leaf colour to best judge how your plants are feeding.

Look at nutrient deficiency charts and pics to help you diagnose any early onset symptoms etc then you should be good.


I have never read a book etc dedicated to growing cannabis.

I've read about how to grow plants non MJ related information.





J
 

Growan

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Solid advice jondamon. I've worked in agricultre, apples, strawberries, rasberries, spuds and runner beans. The beans were most useful as a learning tool as I got to play with the irrigation and fertiliser dosing, plus the fact I was with them from seed to harvest and could see the direct effects of the feefing regime.
I wonder if I've just spouted enough for anybody I know to identify me...

600w hps, and a full to fuck screen. see what happens in a month or so at harvest. I will accept 156g from any 1 or all of my 6 photos. :D
 
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